Chief of BP America Inc. said he did not know if he met with Cheney for secret meetings with big oil

[NNN0LHI]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/15/AR2005111501842.html

Document Says Oil Chiefs Met With Cheney Task Force

By Dana Milbank and Justin Blum
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, November 16, 2005

A White House document shows that executives from big oil companies met with Vice President Cheney's energy task force in 2001 -- something long suspected by environmentalists but denied as recently as last week by industry officials testifying before Congress.

The document, obtained this week by The Washington Post, shows that officials from Exxon Mobil Corp., Conoco (before its merger with Phillips), Shell Oil Co. and BP America Inc. met in the White House complex with the Cheney aides who were developing a national energy policy, parts of which became law and parts of which are still being debated.

In a joint hearing last week of the Senate Energy and Commerce committees, the chief executives of Exxon Mobil Corp., Chevron Corp. and ConocoPhillips said their firms did not participate in the 2001 task force. The president of Shell Oil said his company did not participate "to my knowledge," and the chief of BP America Inc. said he did not know.

Chevron was not named in the White House document, but the Government Accountability Office has found that Chevron was one of several companies that "gave detailed energy policy recommendations" to the task force. In addition, Cheney had a separate meeting with John Browne, BP's chief executive, according to a person familiar with the task force's work; that meeting is not noted in the document.

[Johonny]

1. well it's a secret ain't it

;-)

[ixion]

2. Liar.

He knows very well if he did or did not. And because he needs to use the "I'm a dumbass" defense, my guess is he most certainly DID meet with Darth Cheney.

[Frustratedlady]

15. Cheney and Rove taught them how...

Just say you don't remember, even if you made notes on the edge of a newspaper page and it was brought out as evidence...just say, "I don't remember" and that is sufficient. Oh, and as in Cheney's case, smirk as you say it.

In my humble opinion, KKK Rove didn't lose all that weight during the Plame investigation because he knew he was innocent.

[NC_Nurse]

3. The lack of recall in the last admin is amazing. Did they hand out amnesia pills?

Everything they did was memorable to me. I'll never forget how much they sucked and the damage they've done.

[tridim]

5. I think BushCo had one of these things..

But more likely BP and Shell execs are just lying, as usual.

[socialist_n_TN]

11. Yeah. And the energy "summit" behind closed doors

and in secrecy STILL chaps my butt. I've been hollering about that ever since it happened and will CONTINUE to do so UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT WENT ON.

It's a total fucking SHAME that a meeting of that much importance was held in secret and it's even MORE of a shame that we STILL don't know what went on.

[slackmaster]

4. Cheney may have been cleverly disguised

I think I saw him at Burger King late last night.

[Kerrytravelers]

Liar, liar.

[BarbaRosa]

23. Some music to go with that..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj52XtqF0Iw&feature=related

[EFerrari]

6. Well, did anybody shoot him in the face or drop an f bomb on him?

Seems like you'd remember something like that.

[KansDem]

7. It can happen! I once forgot that I met with the Vice President of the United States!

Really!

:sarcasm:

[hobbit709]

8. Too bad the Pinocchio effect isn't real.

[Art_from_Ark]

37. If it was

I think some oil bigshots would have a nose 10 miles long

[hobbit709]

41. If it was, no one would be safe around politicians.

[patrice]

9. Plausible Deniability **IS** GOLD.

[hobbit709]

10. The operative word there is "plausible"

[Octafish]

14. It's what the ''official'' story always hinges on.

Seems like "Plausible Deniability" also is the official modus operandi of the world's leading criminal organization.

[patrice]

16. Yes, and this is just round one, so they're trying that first for all of those who will now

be able to go back to their districts and tell the voters whatever makes it easier for BP. Also, for all of their fluffers out there, singing the talking points to the somnolent.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

13. And the "plausible" part is...????

:shrug:

[patrice]

18. A. The "plausible" part is what they get paid for. Not everyone pays as close attention as we do.

[glitch]

25. They don't have to bother with plausibility anymore.

That's only necessary with governments they don't own. Yet.

[olegramps]

12. Can anyone imagine that he would not know if he was there or not?

This guy is either a lying bastard or one of the most demented CEOs in the oil business if he can't remember meeting with the Vice President. Or maybe he met with Cheney so many times planning their strategy for bilking the citizens and enriching themselves that he is unable to recall that one particular meeting among the scores of meetings.

[charlesg]

17. It's like a Mafia boss saying he can't tell if he attended a Mafia summit or not

[Kalyke]

19. This thread needs the Iraq map divided up by oil fields resulting from these

secret meetings.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/IraqOilMap.pdf

Wonder which block was BP's?

[Oceansaway]

20. K&R...n/t

[laughingliberal]

21. If his memory is that bad, should he really be in charge of a company with so much responsibility? n

[daggahead]

22. Better than pleading the 5th ...

"Not to my knowledge."
"I do not recall."
"I do not remember."

If I pulled that crap on my job, I'd be fired.

[glitch]

24. That means he did. "I do not recall" always means guilty with these guys.

Actually everything they say and do means guilty.

[The Backlash Cometh]

26. Oh, I see. It took a major oil spill to finally loosen up information on

those energy meetings.

[Captain Hilts]

27. "I forgot!" nt

[spanone]

28. 'to my knowledge' ....lie. lie. lie. lie.

let's ask the evil dick himself.

[unhappycamper]

29. Ahhh. The Gonzales defense.

:puke:

[Canuckistanian]

30. How can you 'forget' meeting with the Vice President of the U.S.?

And especially in a "secret meeting" whose confidentiality was fought for all the way to the Supreme Court?

You'd think those kind of things would tend to stick in one's memory when you're making deals worth $Billions.

Liar.

[JBoy]

32. Before you leave the meeting with the VP, please see Mr. Jones.

[Canuckistanian]

33. LOL

Exactly.

[City Lights]

31. How does one forget meeting with Dead-Zone Dick?

I can smell his steaming pile of bullshit all the way over here.

[SpiralHawk]

34. Typical republicon crony liar

Ptooey.

[Ichingcarpenter]

35. Darth Cheney is a Sith Lord

If he told you not to remember then you would not remember.....


If you wanted to live!


The minutes of that meeting need to come out but I doubt we will know what happened for years sadly

[CanonRay]

36. Yeah, all those trips to the White House are a bitch to remember.

I know I've forgotton all of mine.

[happy_liberal]

38. Didn't these execs lie to Congress before?

Isn't it illegal to lie under oath?

[intheflow]

39. Yeah, I can't ever remember if I've met with any major world leaders, either.

God, it's a bitch getting old.
:sarcasm:

[emulatorloo]

40. You "don't recall?" Then I guess we have to go with the documentation that says you were there.

[bobthedrummer]

42. A DU collaborative investigation: National Energy Policy Development Group/NEPDG

(another overlooked thread started March 18, 2007-worth reviewing)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x440721

[Scurrilous]

43. K & R

:thumbsup:

[ThoughtCriminal]

44. Hmmm.... Did I meet the Vice President of the United States?

I meet so many powerful, creepy, evil guys, it all runs together.

[donheld]

45. Where's the waterboarding?

[HuckleB]

46. This tactic worked for Reagan, so...

:grr:

[lonestarnot]

47. shooteminthefacedick, not something anyone would want to remember I guess.

bbbbbbbbbwaaahahahahaha :rofl:

[Swamp Rat]

48. i see red...

:cry::grr:

[dgibby]

49. Kinda like Poppy Bush not being able to recall where he was when JFK was assassinated.

Unfreakingbelievable!