'Stepmom' of West Memphis suspects says FBI told her young Kane pulled trigger

[RamboLiberal]

CLEARWATER, Fla. — Less than 24 hours after the bloody West Memphis shooting that left four people dead, including two police officers, FBI agents knocked on the door of a pink Spanish-style house here near the Gulf of Mexico.

Donna Lee Wray, the 50-year-old, self-described common-law wife of alleged shooter Jerry R. Kane, answered the door.

But what the FBI agents told Wray offers the first details of how the most costly day in Memphis-area law enforcement began.

"Jerry had nothing to do with it," Wray said.

She said federal agents told her Kane's 16-year-old son, Joe, was the one who gunned down West Memphis Police Sgt. Brandon Paudert, 39, and Officer Bill Evans, 38, with an AK-47 assault rifle.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2010/may/23/tragic-details-emerge/

[The Magistrate]

1. No Particular Reason, Ma'am, To Think She Is Being Truthful About What the Agents Said

This is just one more 'sovereign citizen' incident, and two fewer of them to disturb the peace....

[ProgressiveProfessor]

3. Can we really afford such *exchanges*

[The Magistrate]

4. The Police, Sir, With Practice, Should Improve the Ratios....

[ProgressiveProfessor]

5. If the attackers had *any* tactical training it would be a blood bath

Police get a great deal of training and it is career long. They are not going to get much better and continue to do the job as it is done today. A trained team with some additional items could make it a massacre. There are days that I expect to see such an incident in my lifetime.

One of the things that concerns urban police planners is the small bore sniper. Using standard subsonic match ammunition and a bolt action target rifle they can shoot at people (AKA police) with little chance of detection. Also it is below the threshold for shooting detection systems currently deployed in some cities.

[The Magistrate]

6. Aggressive Action To Seek these People Out And Apprehend Them, Sir

Rather than simply reacting to their 'cooking off' on encountering police, would alter the dynamic and considerable alter the ratio of casualties.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

7. Very hard to do and next to impossible in the US

We are allowed to hate and express hate here. Unless there is a real threat, little to nothing can be done.

[The Magistrate]

8. Quite Easy To Do In the U.S., Sir: A Left Group Of Similar Character Would Be Quashed In Months

The real problem is that too many police and other law enforcement personnel are rightists, and have some basic sympathy with the underlying attitudes. It will take a greater number of dead police to turn them against their 'errant brothers' in sufficient vigor.

These people definitely constitute a real threat, and their actions and words can and should be construed as real threats.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

9. Disagree, its mostly a matter of OPSEC

A while back I wrote a lengthy post here (which I forgot to journal) about the violence on both sides and why I thought the right was better at it. Mostly its age, experience (including military service) which tend to make them much better at OPSEC)

I agree with you on the rightist slant of law enforcement and that the right is less likely to attack LEOs.

[The Magistrate]

10. The Right, Sir, Has Attacked And Killed More Police Than the Left In Recent Times

There has not been any serious pretense to violence from the left here for several decades, while rightists have been advocating violence against police in great volume for those same several decades, and shooting at police with fair frequency. Sooner or later, the armed rebellion of the radical right is going to have to be taken, and treated, seriously.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

11. Agreed when it comes to LEOs. Left has not gone after them since the 60s

[The Magistrate]

12. Then We Come To the Real Problem, Sir: These People Are White, Not Black, Of the Right, Not The Left

This is what accounts for their operating without over-much molestation. It has nothing to do with rights under law and the Constitution; these things presented no difficulty when the matter concerned persons who were not white and were not rightists.

[aquart]

2. Did a 16 year old boy HAVE an AK-47?

If so, why?