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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 03:46 PM
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Laying Bare the Myth of "The Left" - David Sirota
Laying Bare the Myth of "The Left"
David Sirota
Posted: May 21, 2010 03:46 PM

<snip>

I'm always amused by popular references to the allegedly all-powerful American "Left." The term suggests that progressives today possess the same kind of robust, ideologically driven political apparatus as the Right -- a machine putting principles before party affiliation.

This notion is hilarious because it is so absurd.

Yes, there are certainly well-funded groups in Washington that call themselves "progressive," that get media billing as "The Left," and that purport to advocate liberal causes regardless of party. But unlike the Right's network, which has sometimes ideologically opposed Republicans on court nominations and legislation, many "progressive" institutions are not principled at all -- sadly, lots of them are just propagandists for Democrats, regardless of what Democrats do.

Everyone in professional "Left" politics knows this reality "deep down in places they don't talk about at parties," as Jack Nicholson might say -- and they don't discuss it for fear of both jeopardizing their employers' non-profit tax status and/or undermining their employers' dishonest fundraising appeals to liberal donors' ideals.

During the Bush years, this truth was easily obscured, as bashing the Republican president for trampling progressive initiatives was equivalent to aiding Democrats. But in the Obama era, the "The Left's" destructive, party-over-principles motivation has become impossible to hide, especially recently.

Behold, for instance, major environmental groups' attitude toward the Gulf oil spill.

We know that before the disaster, President Obama recklessly pushed to expand offshore drilling. We also know that his Interior Department gave British Petroleum's rig a "categorical exclusion" from environmental scrutiny and, according to The New York Times, "gave permission to BP and dozens of other oil companies to drill in the Gulf without first getting required (environmental) permits." Worse, we know that after the spill, the same Interior Department kept issuing "categorical exclusions" for new Gulf oil operations, and Interior Secretary Ken Salazar still refuses "to rule out continued use of categorical exclusions," as the Denver Post reported (heckuva job, Kenny!).

Undoubtedly, had this been the behavior of a Republican administration, "The Left's" big environmental organizations would be scheduling D.C. protests and calling for firings, if not criminal charges. Yet, somehow, there are no protests. Somehow, there have been almost no calls for the resignation of Salazar, who oversaw this disaster and who, before that, took $323,000 in campaign contributions from energy interests and backed more offshore drilling as a U.S. senator. Somehow, facing environmental apocalypse, there has been mostly silence from "The Left."

That silence is similarly deafening when it comes to Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan.

We know Kagan was among the Clinton administration advisers urging the president to support a serious abortion restriction and to avoid reducing racist disparities in criminal sentencing. We know that as Harvard Law School dean, Kagan "hired 29 tenured or tenure-track faculty members (and) did not hire a single black, Latino, or American Indian -- not one, not even a token," reports Duke University's Guy-Uriel Charles. And we know that in her solicitor general confirmation hearings, Kagan stated her radical belief that the government can hold terrorism suspects without trial.

Again, if this were a Republican nominee's record, "The Left's" pro-choice and civil rights groups would be frantically mounting opposition -- or at least raising concerns. But this is a Democratic nominee, so they've fallen in line. Planned Parenthood celebrated Kagan's "dedication," the NAACP trumpeted her "commitment to diversity" and the liberal Alliance for Justice said it "applauds" her nomination.

Surveying the hypocrisy, CNN's Roland Martin wrote that "The Left's" organizations "need to decide what matters: their principles or their politics ... their convictions or chicken dinners in the White House."

He's too late: They've already made their decision, which is why -- regrettably -- a powerful Left does not exist in America.

<snip>

Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/laying-bare-the-myth-of-t_b_585347.html

:shrug:
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 03:56 PM
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1. The DLC has accomplished it's final objective: destroying liberalism by turning the Left
into the New Right, while the Right has pushed itself into fascist extremist territory. As the Tory from London who volunteered with me on Kerry's campaign said "Kerry is a good old Tory conservative, Bush is just scary, and a Left wing does not exist in your country."
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 04:10 PM
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4. Sirota has nailed it. Add to BP. the latest so called Financial Reform.
is as weak as it can get. Openly admit there will be other
Crashes, so we will just propose a mechanism for "fixing it".

By not having strong legislation to stop failures, ho, hum--we
will fix it.

Does anyone believe for one minute that no matter who the President
and Congress--if they are starring at a run on banks--yes they
will bail them out.

By not separating the Commercial Banks from Investment Banks
Senarors have given them Banksters) once again our tax money as back up in
their gambling casino.

Cantwell and Feingold at least had the courage of their convictions
to hold out.

Business over the people as usual. Not exactly a true Left principle

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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 04:02 PM
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2. The genius of Obama presidency - custom made to disarm the left
so long planned structural changes to society could continue unopposed.
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anthroguy101 Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 04:06 PM
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3. We need a third party, damnit! nt
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 04:09 PM
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47. We had one. It got us 8 years of Bush
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 04:24 PM
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5. As usual, Sirota doesn't get it.
There are many reasons the institutional left isn't effective. I'm sure Sirota's overly simplistic explanation will appeal to many people. He could have accomplished a lot more by focusing on how destructive it is that most progressive groups are 501c3 non-profits that aren't allowed to do direct political work. Of course, that would require him to point the finger at Ralph Nader as much as he does against Democrats.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 04:47 PM
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8. I Wouldn't Worry...
If things keep going the way they are, many in the Left will be leaving the Democratic Party.

What with all those disaffected moderate Republicans coming onboard, the Democratic Party will not need the Left any longer.

:shrug:
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 05:02 PM
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10. I know that's the goal
of some people who attack Obama non-stop. I don't think it's an effective way to get progressive legislation passed or build the movement. Greens and socialists have done a fine job of proving that they can't build their own parties by tearing down the Democratic Party. It simply hasn't worked.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 05:13 PM
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12. Many Are Tired Of Being Patient...
And their numbers grow every day.

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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 05:24 PM
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13. Good. Be impatient.
But constantly complaining about Obama and exaggerating all attacks to spread cynicism isn't a very smart response. It just makes people give up and drop out when you aren't presenting an appealing alternative.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 05:31 PM
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14. LOL !!! - Obama Was SUPPOSED TO BE The Appealing Alternative !!!
So what, the 2008 Election was solely about getting the Republicans out of the White House???

So Obama's just a place holder until we can find somebody that knows what they're doing???

Is that what you're saying, because I missed that particular memo.

:shrug:
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 05:43 PM
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17. You could start by realizing
that the US Senate is the main roadblock to progressive victories instead of engaging in the simple-minded blaming of Obama for everything.

Sirota could also acknowledge that SEIU and other unions are doing exactly the right thing in Arkansas by trying to get a center-right Democrat replaced with a better alternative in the Senate. That would be a productive use of energy, but it undermines Sirota's premise about everyone being a front for Democrats.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 06:12 PM
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20. I Could Almost Agree With You On The Senate, But...
First, that sounds totally weasel-like, as if somebody stole Obama's lunch money.

And second, the majority in the Senate that we have to worry about isn't really Democrat vs. Republican, it's Corporatist vs. Non-Corporatist. And the Corporatists have the majority...

And unfortunately, Obama has either joined the Corporatists, or is trying to placate the Corporatists.

Making deals with Big Pharma, Big Med, and letting BP order your own executive agencies around does not instill confidence in many.

:shrug:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 05:38 PM
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16. Nice...
Stay classy LZ.

:evilfrown:
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 04:25 PM
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6. The argument just doesn't seem to ring true.
Edited on Sat May-22-10 04:26 PM by ThomWV
I'm sorry, but if there is an explanation for the lack of power from Progressives this piece does't capture it.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 04:42 PM
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7. the "right" is supported by four pillars, while the left is scattered wildly -
rightists 4 pillars: white, male, christian, wealthy - all the rightists who are not a part of one pillar are supported by or admire those who are parts.

left = the "left" is multicultural, multi-religious, a wide mix of financial levels, and not unified by 4 core values.

Msongs
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 05:04 PM
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11. More importantly, the right has nearly unlimited political money.
While the left relies on tax-exempt money, mostly from the foundations of white wealthy families, that can only be used in very restricted ways.
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FBI_Un_Sub Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 05:02 PM
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9. Reagan's Murder of LABOR
I grew up in Union Country -- had a union job in the steel mill, had a USW economist as one of my prof's.

Back in the halcyon days (before Reagan) of the labor movement -- union lobbyists provided the brain power for the Dems --- asking the "what ifs" and moving "factory floor" legislation through Congress. Those were the glory days of the unions, the civil rights movement (including womens' rights, immigrants' rights, handicappers, etc.), and the academics. Somehow the grand coalition began to unravel, and Reagan kicked us in the butt.

Then we switched to "professional staffers" in DC and lost control of our movement.

I look back fondly to the era of real unions with Democratic meetings in union halls, and fund raisers in the basements of Unitarian Churches, and "Banquets" in what we now call "Sports Bars."
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 05:45 PM
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18. FINALLY!
I was wondering when Lord Privy Douchenozzle Sirota would come out of hiding long enough to put his bullshit on the table.

What a fucking piece of shit he is.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 07:13 PM
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24. Yes, I posted this same article yesterday.
And wdi gave almost the exact same response.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 07:16 PM
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25. Bullshit
Edited on Sat May-22-10 07:18 PM by WeDidIt
First time I've seen Lord Privy Douchenozzle Sirota crawl out of his hole in months was this thread.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 07:23 PM
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29. Oh, my bad. It was this one:
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 07:30 PM
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31. And you fully deserved the award, too.
Quoting World Socialist Web Service to support your position is akin to a Birther using World Net Daily to support theirs.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 07:37 PM
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33. Not at all. It was a good article.
For those who can get past the lack of Imprimatur stamps, that is. I'm glad I'm free that way.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 03:58 PM
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42. "Lord Privy Douchenozzle Sirota" ....such an intelligent statement.
:sarcasm:

And you also said:

"What a fucking piece of shit he is."

Such a profound brilliant comment.

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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 04:02 PM
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44. I only said it because
Lord Privy Douchenozzle Sirota is a piece of shit only superseded by Lord High Douchenozzle Greenwald.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 04:22 PM
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48. " Lord Privy Douchenozzle Sirota is a piece of shit only superseded by Lord High Douchenozzle Gree

"Lord Privy Douchenozzle Sirota is a piece of shit only superseded by Lord High Douchenozzle Greenwald."

You just raised the level of conversation another notch. :sarcasm:
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 04:26 PM
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49. Certainly to a higher level than either
Lord High Douchenozzle Greenwald or Lord Privy Douchenozzle Sirota are capable of.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 04:28 PM
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50. No. Not Really.
Not at all.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 04:47 PM
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52. I disagree
You're free to have your opinion, but a five year old drawing with crayons has better content and a more cohesive opinion than either Lord Privy Douchenozzle Sirota or Lord High Douchenozzle Greenwald, in my humble opinion.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 05:03 PM
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53. No. They're very coherent, well-read and well-written.
They're valuable sources of good information.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 05:04 PM
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54. You're entitled to that opinion
I'm entitled to the opinion they are douchenozzles that offer absolutely nothing of value.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 05:07 PM
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55. My opinion is based on thorough analysis of the article.
Yours is based on . . . name-calling?

I'll let other people judge which opinion holds more validity.

Have a good day!

:hi:
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 05:32 PM
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56. So is mine. n/t
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 05:46 PM
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19. K&R ! //nt
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 07:17 PM
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26. !!! K & R.
:D
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 07:18 PM
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27. America is still very right wing
I've been saying this for quite a while.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 07:29 PM
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30. There hasn't been an organized Left in this country since the 30s.
Edited on Sat May-22-10 07:34 PM by scarletwoman
I have no idea what people think "Left" means anymore. It's almost completely useless to even try to talk about it.

I've been on DU since a few months after its inception and over the years I've seen countless people proclaim themselves "Leftists" who would merely pass as moderate Republicans back in the 50s.

The worst is all the people who think that being a "Liberal" makes them "Left". It's such total crap it makes me literally sick.

There's no Left in this country aside from a few indivicual faint echoes like Pete Seger.

There's no Emma Goldmans, no Eugene Debs, no W.E.B. Dubois, no Wobblies, no Fightin' Bob LaFolletes. There's nothing but a bunch of well-fed bourgeousie (sorry about the spelling if it's wrong) who think being socially liberal is quite daring.

And as long as there's no organized movement completely divorced from, and unbeholden to the Democratic party, there will be no Left. Partisan electoral politics has totally co-opted any possible leftward activism in this country. Everyone has been tamed and well-trained to kowtow to Party politics above all other considerations.

Feh!

sw

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ProgressIn2008 Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 04:05 PM
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46. "Everyone has been tamed and well-trained to kowtow to Party politics" - indeed. Well put. nt
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 06:42 PM
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57. Thank you. I've been saying this here for almost 9 years, but few people ever notice, much less
respond.

:hi:
sw
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 07:30 PM
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32. k&r
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 07:47 PM
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34. "The Left" in practice is a collection of disparate groups
Edited on Sat May-22-10 07:48 PM by woo me with science
that don't always work together very well and are often at odds.

The right wing has that, too, to a certain extent, but I'm not sure it's to the degree on the left (e.g., gun people, fundies, abortion, free markets, etc.)

Here at DU we constantly see bickering among groups who don't feel their interests are being adequately addressed, and counter accusations of being over-focused on "pet" issues.

teachers
unions
glbt
environment
anti-war
drug policy
race
women's rights
etc. etc. etc.

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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 07:51 PM
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35. None of those is big-L "Left". There is no Left. nt
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 08:08 PM
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36. That is my point. nt
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merkins Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 09:03 PM
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37. Spot On Sirota K&R!
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 11:05 AM
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38. Sirota has never sugar-coated his message for the DLCers and DINOs.
He's been making these very kinds of observations for years. Well before Obama was ever a name or known in the party. He was right then. He is more right than ever, now.

K & R.


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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 03:42 PM
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39. I think I love David Sirota.....
Edited on Sun May-23-10 03:44 PM by BrklynLiberal
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 03:49 PM
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40. “The kind of pundit you’d like to have on your side in a knife fight
and wouldn’t want to cross in a dark alley.” Syndicated columnist Molly Ivins said, “Sirota is a new-generation populist who instinctively understands that the only real questions are ‘Who’s getting screwed?’ and ‘Who’s doing the screwing?’”

http://davidsirota.com/index.php/who-is-david-sirota/

Me too, BrklynLiberal. Me too.

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 03:55 PM
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41. To coin a phrase..."He can put his shoes under my bed anytime"...
Edited on Sun May-23-10 03:56 PM by BrklynLiberal
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

PS Thanks for the link. I subscribed to his newsletter.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:36 AM
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59. Awesome! :-)
Edited on Mon May-24-10 12:42 AM by chill_wind
:thumbsup:

I have this recurrent fantasy lately.... Alan Grayson in the WH someday. Sirota replaces RhamRod. Dean Baker is a top Economic advisor...

Although your fantasy's not a bad one, either, lol!

:hi:



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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:57 PM
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60. I like YOUR fantasy much better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 04:00 PM
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43. Kick n/t
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ProgressIn2008 Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 04:04 PM
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45. I know a lot of folks who grok this -- this is why they're cynical about politics, "left" or "right"
They are aware that very few people on the pundit circles of the teevee or in DC give a shit about anything -- the Versailles crowd is just looking for the self-righteous victory for their football team. And a paycheck for being part of the team. Dem or Republican, doesn't matter.

My job is with a lot of working class folks in the middle of a gated, privileged, "liberal/left" community that's pretty much as Sirota describes. My coworkers get it, and how.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 06:51 PM
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58. "the Versailles crowd" - well said.
I get so tired of hearing about how ordinary Americans are "stupid" -- they may not be educated, but they damn well know that they're being screwed and no "liberals" are doing a thing about it except telling to vote for Dems.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 04:31 PM
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51. Kick
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