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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 11:11 AM
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Usenet's home shuts down today
Usenet's home shuts down today


Duke University in North Carolina is where Usenet began, and today the institution is shutting down its Usenet server. The college cites "low usage and rising costs" for the decision.

The first messages began flowing in 1980, after two Duke students Tom Truscott and Jim Ellis, developed the protocol, using UUCP as a transport and modems (two 300 baud auto-diallers) and telephone lines as the backbone.

The system was unveiled at a Usenix meeting in January 1980, in which the two students distributed a five page handout called "Invitation to a General Access UNIX Network" to attendees. Their goal, they said, was "a poor man's Arpanet". By the time Arpanet evolved into today's internet, Usenet was already hugely popular, and evolved its own sophisticated nntp protocol.

And what a legacy.

"Many social aspects of online communication – from emoticons and slang acronyms such as LOL to flame wars – originated or were popularized on Usenet," notes the college.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/20/usenet_duke_server/
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 11:14 AM
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1. That's pretty sad, considering my first exposure to the Internet was Usenet.
Not to mention that I still check out newsgroups on occasion today.

I hope the other servers don't shut down.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 11:14 AM
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2. I can remember when USENET was actually a seemly place
Edited on Sat May-22-10 11:17 AM by rocktivity
Someone replied to my very first Internet post there and mentioned he lived in Ireland. I was so blown away by the idea that communicating with someone on the other side of the world was a simple as turning on a computer, I sent him a private e-mail: "Are you REALLY from Ireland?" But I guess it was long overdue--long before it became outdated by blogging and social networking, it had been spammed to death.

:headbang:
rocktivity
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 11:16 AM
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3. Remember the term "information superhighway"?
I noticed it fell out of the lexicon about 10 years ago.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 11:20 AM
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4. RIP
Twas fun getting there and searching stuff out.
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 11:20 AM
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5. Can someone please repost rar part 1684-1687? (Sorry, flashback.) n/t
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TheManInTheMac Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 11:22 AM
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8. LOL!
READ THE FAQ!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 12:10 PM
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19. I'm getting the shakes!
Talk about a blast from the past.
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TheManInTheMac Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 11:21 AM
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6. Wow
I often miss Usenet. I know it is still out there, but ISP's pretty much only offer their own groups. Almost everything I learned about setting up Linux I learned from Usenet. (In the '90's setting up Linux was WAY more difficult than Windows. The tables have turned.)
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 11:27 AM
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10. Google Groups started out mirroring most of the useful groups.
I think you can still post and read via the Google Groups interface, although in my experience groups in general seem to be fading away. Some of my favorite specialist technical groups, especially in the sci.math hierarchy used to have hundreds of posters. Now those same groups are ghost towns with nothing but sporadic spam posts.
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 12:03 PM
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16. It was interesting to follow the evolution
I got into Usenet in about 1993. It was just a few years before it all started to fall apart. The structure really only worked with a certain size of users. Once the spam started in earnest, it all began to fall apart. It was too bad too. The travel groups were invaluable to me. I could get "local knowledge" on relatively small places.

With the advent of other, web based, forums and information sources, it lost much of its utility. And the nature of communication changed towards "social networking" and "instant messaging". But places like Democratic Underground can find the roots of much of its traditions and structure was worked out in the days of Usenet.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 11:22 AM
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7. How will we ever survive without "alt.plastic.utensils.spork" nt
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 11:22 AM
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9. I think I still have a 14.4 modem somewhere.




I'm an old BBSer. I'll light a candle out of respect.


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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 11:28 AM
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11. FidoNET ftw! ;)
And 'doors'.. man, those were the days.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 12:12 PM
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20. oh muh gawd, the doors!
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charlesg Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 11:30 AM
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12. Usenet FAQs were the best
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 11:35 AM
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13. Ah, usenet.
You were pretty creepy. Not that sad to see you go.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 11:51 AM
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14. The first friend I made on the net was at Usenet and we're still friends today
We were both posters at the Baltic countries group since that's our shared heritage. We started posting to each other maybe around 1990.

What's next, mIRC? That's also a blast from the past that I never use anymore.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 11:54 AM
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15. mIRC still out there, but dalnet and others suck. (nt)
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 12:04 PM
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17. I was addicted to IRC for about 4 years in the early 90's
#ACRO was my favorite channel. I made lots of friends there.

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I was even in the ACRO hall of fame for my acronym for EFHWS -> "Elmer Fudd has wascally sex" :)
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 12:09 PM
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18. Lol!
Several of us American Lithuanian women would get together and chat just about every evening for years on irc. We remain friends today both online and "irl" even though we all live in different states. :D
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 12:31 PM
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21. I met my wife on IRC. Still married today :)
Efnet, #annerice
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 12:57 PM
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23. IRC's surprisingly healthy these days
EFNet's still around, Undernet still sucks, there's a bajillion smaller networks or single servers for this that and the other thing, etc.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 12:55 PM
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22. I still love how an image on Wikipedia portrays the Usenet hierarchy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Usenet_Big_Nine.svg

Anyone who was there in the nineties will, of course, immediately understand.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 02:02 PM
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24. This is a sad, sentimental day for me.
Of course, I suppose thanks to Google, every damn thing we said on Usenet is archived somewhere for all our potential future employers to see.
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