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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 08:49 AM
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NPR SUCKS..BIG TIME!!! I am disappointed..and enraged RE:Gulf Oil Spill & BP.
I was listening to NPR this AM..WNYC here in NY...Weekend Edition with Scott Simon.
Simon is actually a native of Chicago..
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=3874941

NPR shows may be broadcast all over the country on your local PBS or public radio station.

ANYWAY.. TO the point!!
Simon was talking to "BP Chief Operating Officer Doug Suttles about the company's efforts to stem the flow " of the Gulf Leak Disaster.
The man was explaining how "hard they are trying" to fix the leak. He was allowed to give an uninterrupted, unchallenged justification and excuse laden "explanation" for what BP did and is doing.

Suttles was allowed to say that the minority of people involved in the clean up effort were BP people. He was allowed to say that there was no reason for BP to try to lie about how much oil was being spilled. There was no mention by Simon of the fines that are based on spillage amount. There was no mention of the fact that both wildlife rescuers and independent engineers trying to help were told that EVERYTHING must go to BP first for analysis.

There was no mention of the safety and engineering oversights and failures that led to this tragedy.

It was like a paid advertisement for BP!!!!!!!!

I was so enraged, that I called WNYC and cancelled my monthly membership donation.
If you donate I hope you will do the same..and even if you do not..please write a letter mentioning this thoroughly one-sided presentation of a story that will eventually effect every one of us.

This is Pledge week, so it may have even more impact.

Thanks.
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http://www.npr.org/
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A description of the segment on this week's show

BP COO Disputes Oil Estimates

Just how much oil is billowing into the Gulf every day became a controversy this week, because the size of the spill dictates what techniques can be used to cap it. Host Scott Simon talks to BP Chief Operating Officer Doug Suttles about BP's efforts to stem the flow of oil gushing from the site of the oil rig explosion that killed 11 workers and is spewing crude into the Gulf of Mexico.


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=127054190

You can listen to it, and I believe as of noon EDT Saturday there will be a transcript
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 08:56 AM
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1. I heard that this morning. I kept waiting for one real question
putting the 'petroleum' in NPR
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 08:59 AM
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2. heard it -- Simon is an ass munching cheeto douche. i can't stand him on "good" days.
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 10:21 AM
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22. Yes. Compare him with Robin Lustig...
If NPR is supposed to be the "free market" answer to the BBC then there's ANOTHER reason why the markets aren't efficient.

We need (more) people like Robin Lustig:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qtl3

IF YOU LISTEN to one of the broadcasts above, and compare it to just about any one of our news shows, you'll come to the same conclusion that I have - we're a bunch of fucking idiots and our media assumes we're a bunch of 4th graders.

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 11:25 AM
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28. Absolutley!! The BBC reproters are wonderful I have heard them tear
into those that they are interviewing..DEMANDING the truth..and explanations for what is going on.
Claire Balderson is one of my favorites.

On WNYC they have this hack-filled show, "The Take Away" on AM..so I now listen to FM, and the BBC News every morning.

It has long been a fact that the media outside of the US appear to be able to more accurately report the news, even from within the US, than virtually any of the US based media.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 09:00 AM
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3. I missed it, but ...
is there some relevance to your statement that Simon is "actually a native of Chicago"? How does that impact this story? Just curious as to why you'd throw that in.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 09:02 AM
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4. Cause I mentioned that I had heard it in NYC and
wanted to make sure that readers knew this was a national broadcast.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 01:26 PM
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29. But I don't believe it is broadcast out of Chicago
He was just born there. So I'm still not sure it's of any relevance.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 09:02 AM
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5. And yet I wonder what % of support to NPR & PBS comes from Democrats and Liberals.
If they want to pander to the right, maybe they should look to them for support, but good luck with that.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 09:19 AM
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10. It used to be a pretty liberal organization. I it may have been Reagan who started
Edited on Sat May-22-10 09:25 AM by BrklynLiberal
putting rwingnuts into seats on the CPB and NPR.

They do not have to rely on RW individuals...it has become a haven for "corporate" "partners".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Public_Radio



<snip>
NPR was created in 1970, following congressional passage of the Public Broadcasting Act of 1967. This act was signed into law by President Lyndon B. Johnson, and established the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which also created the Public Broadcasting Service in addition to NPR. A CPB organizing committee under John Witherspoon first created a Board of Directors chaired by Bernard Mayes. This Board then hired Donald Quayle to be the first President of NPR with studios in Washington D.C., 30 employees and 90 public radio stations as charter members.

<snip>


Allegations of conservative bias

In a December 2005 column run by NPR ombudsman and former Vice President Jeffrey Dvorkin, allegations that NPR relies heavily on conservative think-tanks<24> were denied. In his column, Dvorkin listed the number of times NPR had cited experts from conservative and liberal think tanks in the previous year as evidence. However, according to MediaMatters, a progressive media group, the numbers he reported indicate an overwhelmingly conservative bias. His own tally showed that 63% of NPR experts from think tanks came from right-leaning organizations while only 37% came from left-leaning organizations.<25> duh..They have Juan Williams as a talking head!!

In 2003, some critics accused NPR of being supportive of the invasion of Iraq.<26><27>

Allegations of liberal bias

A study conducted by researchers at UCLA and the University of Missouri found that while NPR is "often cited by conservatives as an egregious example of a liberal news outlet", "y our estimate, NPR hardly differs from the average mainstream news outlet. Its score is approximately equal to those of Time, Newsweek and U.S. News & World Report and its score is slightly more conservative than The Washington Post's."<28> It did find NPR to be more liberal than the average U.S. voter of the time of the study and more conservative than the average U.S. Democrat of the time. Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, a progressive media watchdog group,<29> also disputes the claim of a liberal bias.
Allegations of bias against Israel

NPR has been criticised for perceived bias in its coverage of Israel.
The Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA), a pro-Israel American media monitoring organization based in Boston, has been particularly critical of NPR. CAMERA director Andrea Levin has stated, "We consider NPR to be the most seriously biased mainstream media outlet," a statement that The Boston Globe describes as having "clearly gotten under her target's skin."<34> NPR's then-Ombudsman, Jeffrey A. Dvorkin, said in a 2002 interview that CAMERA used selective citations and subjective definitions of what it considers pro-Palestinian bias in formulating its findings, and that he felt CAMERA's campaign was "a kind of McCarthyism, frankly, that bashes us and causes people to question our commitment to doing this story fairly. And it exacerbates the legitimate anxieties of many in the Jewish community about the survival of Israel."<35>
Other criticisms

A 2004 FAIR study concluded that "NPR’s guestlist shows the radio service relies on the same elite and influential sources that dominate mainstream commercial news, and falls short of reflecting the diversity of the American public."

Noam Chomsky has criticized NPR as being biased toward ideological power and the status quo. He alleges that the parameters of debate on a given topic are very consciously curtailed. He says that since the network maintains studios in ideological centers of opinion such as Washington, the network feels the necessity to carefully consider what kinds of dissenting opinion are acceptable. Thus, political pragmatism, perhaps induced by fear of offending public officials who control some of the NPR's funding (via CPB), often determines what views are suitable for broadcast, meaning that opinions critical of the structures of national-interest-based foreign policy, capitalism, and government bureaucracies (entailed by so-called "radical" or "activist" politics) usually do not make it to air.<37>

In 2009 NPR edited Nathan Lee's review of Outrage, a documentary on closeted gay politicians who actively work against lesbian, gay, transgender and queer rights<38>. NPR removed the names of the politicians from the review, claiming that it needed to protect the privacy of public figures.<39><40> "NPR has a long-held policy of trying to respect the privacy of public figures and of not airing or publishing rumors, allegations and reports about their private lives unless there is a compelling reason to do so," said Dick Meyer, NPR’s executive director of Digital.<41> However, NPR did not perform such alteration in an editorial by Linda Holmes criticizing media outlets for not acknowledging the sexuality of American Idol frontrunner Adam Lambert, whom she believed to be homosexual. NPR also did not perform such alteration in November 2008, and after the coming out of comedian Wanda Sykes, NPR speculated on-air whether Queen Latifah would also, even though the celebrity has issued no public statements about her sexuality.<40>

NPR has also been accused of an anti-Christian bias:<42> anti-Catholic<43> and anti-Mormon.<44>



http://www.current.org/rad613mo.html

'Don't worry. I hug everyone.'

NPR principles will remain intact, Del Lewis vows, as board approves broad framework for revenue-generating enterprises

Originally published in Current, July 22, 1996

By Jacqueline Conciatore

In a speech last week, NPR President Delano Lewis sought to allay fears that the network will lose sight of its public service mission as it moves into new moneymaking initiatives--even in possible joint ventures with media conglomerates.

After his speech at the NPR Board's July 18-19 meeting in Washington, D.C., the board passed a resolution that directs NPR to develop new revenue-building opportunities. The unanimous resolution said the board would "guide and monitor'' NPR's initiative, and has "full confidence in NPR's internal business structure and staff acumen, as well as management's commitment to move forward with new enterprises in the spirit of public service and without adversely affecting NPR's fundamental mission.''

Lewis delivered a similar message, calling "broad and unsubstantiated accusations'' the recent conjectures that NPR was about to make a deal with a conglomerate like Liberty Media and would jeopardize its soul in the process. "We have said over and over and over again. . . that we are committed to our public-service mission and that we use it to guide everything we do--including business deals with corporate partners,'' Lewis said. NPR will not enter into any deal that "calls its principles into question,'' he said.
<snip>

_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

I never thought I would hear spiels on NPR for some of the most disgusting corporations in the world...
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scubadude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 10:21 AM
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23. It was a simple plan.
Remove the bulk of public funding, install corporate whores in power positions and force NPR and PBS into going for corporate funding. Suddenly they both toned down their attitudes regarding corporate misdeeds and started to be much more business friendly. You can't bite the had that feeds...

This did begin under Reagan in my recollection. I despised it at the time, and still do. Whenever money making is involved in the media, the message is lost and the programming begins.

Scuba
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 11:22 AM
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27. Thanks for the confirmation....and the analysis. I do recall this being discussed
at the time..the total undermining of the purpose/mission of CPB and NPR..and even PBS
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Yeahyeah Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 09:03 AM
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6. But did Bob Simon keep his voice sounding happy?That seems to be the most important thing on NPR.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 09:05 AM
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7. I guess the owners of Chenobyl were saying the same thing?
and look what happened
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 09:13 AM
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8. I heard that, too, and am gobsmacked once again that...
some people just don't understand the difference between an interview and an inquisition.

It's not ANY interviewer's job to to express someone's personal outrage over a story and attack an interviewee. The job is to see what the person has to say. Obvious lies and errors can be challenged, but an interview is not a crusade.

NPR has run some stories about "blame" but far more about the technology and problems involved in the blowout, and the problems the Gulf coast communities are having with it. I haven't noticed many slants or mangled facts, but I have noticed that it doesn't quite parallel the more firebreathing doomsayers.

Pulling money out of WNYC over one segment on a national show they didn't produce seems rather childish and shortsighted and pique more than punishment for the evil NPR. Out here, I don't get WNYC any more but two Connecticut NPR stations and I'm not going to short them the few bucks for I give them for Diane Riehm, Wait Wait Don't Tell Me, and dozen other great shows because I disagree with a five minute segment once a month or so.

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 09:33 AM
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14. I do not believe that the purpose of PUBLIC RADIO is to stand by "objectively" while corporate
Edited on Sat May-22-10 09:37 AM by BrklynLiberal
greed takes over....unless of course, you have already been taken over by corporate greed.
Since I realize that they are getting lots and lots of money from their "corporate partners" they will live very nicely without mine.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=National_Public_Radio#Sponsorship_And_Advertising


<snip>
PR and the Pentagon's Military Analyst Program

In April 2008, David Barstow from the New York Times revealed that in early 2002 the Pentagon military analyst program had been launched by then-Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs Victoria Clarke. The idea was to recruit "key influentials" to help sell a wary public on "a possible Iraq invasion." Former NBC military analyst Kenneth Allard called the effort "psyops on steroids."<1>

One of the 75 analysts mentioned in Barstow's original story was Robert H. Scales Jr., who appeared on programs for both NPR and Fox News programs. Barstow noted that Scales, "whose consulting company advises several military firms on weapons and tactics used in Iraq, wanted the Pentagon to approve high-level briefings for him inside Iraq in 2006.'Recall the stuff I did after my last visit,' he wrote. 'I will do the same this time.'"<1> In 2003 Scales co-founded a "defense consulting company" Colgen, which boasts that it is "America's Premier Landpower Advocate".<2>

A little over a week after the New York Times story ran, NPR Ombudsman, Alicia C. Shepard, wrote in her blog that when the story broke "emails began flying trying to assess the damage and determine how to proceed. NPR waited until Wednesday on Talk of the Nation to first discuss this issue publicly. The Bryant Park Project followed up the next day with two pieces on how the media was ignoring The Times' story."<3> Shepard noted "since February 2003, he has been on NPR 67 times, most often (28 appearances) on All Things Considered (ATC). The latest was March 28, when he gave ATC listeners an assessment of the fifth anniversary of the war ... Only once in December 2006 was Scales' relationship to Colgen mentioned."<3>

Shepherd disagreed with the suggestion of a number of NPR listeners who wanted the media organization to stop doing interviews with Scales. "Rather than toss Scales off the air and lose his practical and scholarly knowledge of the Army, in the future NPR should always be transparent and identify him as a defense consultant with Colgen. NPR's audience can evaluate what Scales says through that lens. NPR should also append a note to each archived Scales' appearances that indicates he is also a defense consultant with Colgen. What also is needed, and I believe NPR will now begin doing, is a more careful vetting of all experts before they go on air," she wrote.<3> NPR have developed new guidelines for "vetting guests" which state "Ask the guest if he/she has any conflicts of interest. You can modify the question to be more descriptive; any financial, political, personal or other conflicts of interest. In some cases, the appearance of conflict of interest obvious to some, may not be obvious to the guest. For example, has the guest made any trips paid for by an organization having an interest in this story?" <4>

Wal-Mart

In August 2004, the New York Times reported that Wal-Mart, "stung by criticism of its labor practices, expansion plans and other business tactics, is turning to public radio, public television and even journalists in training to try to improve its image." Wal-Mart's new media-related philanthopy includes National Public Radio sponsorship and underwriting the popular "Tavis Smiley" talk show. NPR's underwriter announcements for Wal-Mart include a claim that the store brings "communities job opportunities, goods and services and support for neighborhood programs." <4>

In response to listener complaints, NPR ombudsman Jeffrey Dvorkin wrote, "Wal-Mart has been embroiled in anti-union controversies, accusations about its low-paid workers, the hiring of undocumented workers and the homogenizing effect of Wal-Mart in smaller communities. To its credit, NPR has reported this on a number of occasions. Some listeners wonder if Wal-Mart was motivated to purchase underwriting on NPR in an attempt to counteract that reporting. ... Wal-Mart symbolizes values that some listeners believe to be antithetical to the values of public radio."

Sponsorship And Advertising

"As its federal funding came under threat," U.S. National Public Radio increased its ad sales. "Public-radio stations now count 18% of their revenue from businesses, compared with 11% from the federal government." Corporate "underwriters" include Clear Channel Communications, Starbucks and Wal-Mart Stores. "More on-air sponsorships are now weaved into programming breaks rather than lumped at the end of each show," reports Sarah McBride. "And more minutes per hour are given over to these announcements, a sweetener for all concerned because such underwriting is tax-deductible." The trend was informed by a 2004 report for 21 large public-radio stations, which found listeners disliked on-air pledge drives, but "weren't bothered by" fundraising by direct mail or on-air underwriting. NPR ombudsman Jeffery Dvorkin admits that listener concerns "about corporate influence on programming as well as the number of messages" are increasing. <6>

Sponsors include:

* The Pew Charitable Trust
* EBSCO Information Services
* Wal-Mart Stores
* Keane, Inc.. <7>

In 2005 they received $3 million from the Ford Foundation.


<snip>

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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 09:35 AM
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16. Then what took you so long to dump them?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 09:42 AM
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18. The last straw.....finally did it..
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 09:48 AM
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20. T B claims
That you don't quit just because it's awful shit.

And all I can say is that's what drug addicts say, too.

"I know it is awful and will kill me, but I want more."
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 09:14 AM
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9. The More They Yak, The Deeper A PR Hole They Dig...
Except for Paulbot Jr. the growing attitude out there is that BP is totally culpable in this disaster and the more they downplay the damage the more people don't believe them. But then what do you expect them to say? That their guilty of anything? No way...and most of what they are saying isn't for our ears but to do what their laywers think will limit their liabilities down the road.

As is generally the case in a PR disaster, corporates get caught up in lies upon lies and then try to lie again to "correct the record". It never works and when a corporate shill gets out there and spews, it usually angers people more than informs. Do you think their mouthpieces will answer a tough question? Doubtful. They'll just go back to their programmed talking points.

The longer this slow motion disaster unfolds, the worse it gets not only for BP but anyone who support them. Their attempts to "manage" this story is going to be their biggest disaster as the company can't hide the oil and the more they avoid full disclosure the worse it will be. The company's image has taken a pounding and deservedly so...nothing a shill of theirs can say that will turn that around...especially as long as the gusher is still flowing.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 09:23 AM
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11. Scott Simon is why I stopped listening to NPR for good in 2000. He was the last straw
when he raged for an hour against the Clinton White House for "vandalizing" it when they left with absolutely no proof other than Karl Rove's word. Simon's a stooge.

But NPR's bias for Bush against Gore had been going on all year and I'd finally had it with them. I can't imagine them getting any better through the Bush years.
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 09:23 AM
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12. NPR has sucked for about 4 years now, and it looks like all the
decent shows on PTV are getting axed or reformatted to be more propaganda and less informative. I haven't supported for years, don't even watch or listen since before the 2008 election.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 09:30 AM
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13. NPR has been a useless tool for years.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 09:34 AM
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15. i listen to my public radio station for the 9 hours of blues music and bbc over night
i gave up listening to their "news" several years ago.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 09:39 AM
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17. BP is disputing oil estimates to save itself money in the law suits that are coming!
The amount of oil determines damages. Keith Olbermann had a segment on his show last night about it. That's why they're trying to be sneaky about oil flow out of the damaged pipe, and that's why they want all analysis to be done through BP and the labs of their choice!

Fuck BP!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 09:42 AM
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19. Exactly.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 09:57 AM
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21. Doug Suttles lied on the Today Show before he lied on NPR
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100429/ap_on_bi_ge/us_louisiana_oil_rig_explosion

"Doug Suttles, chief operating officer for BP Exploration and Production, had initially disputed the government's larger estimate. But he later acknowledged on NBC's "Today" show that the leak may be as bad as federal officials say. He said there was no way to measure the flow at the seabed, so estimates have to come from how much oil rises to the surface."
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 10:43 AM
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24. An alternative place to donate your money....
Edited on Sat May-22-10 10:43 AM by BrklynLiberal
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 11:03 AM
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25. NPR behaved like FAUX news in the months before the
Iraq invasion. They were absolutely horrible. I haven't listened to them since, but this does not surprise me and I believe your analysis.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 11:20 AM
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26. Ut did take a whiile for me to realize that I needed to stop donating....
Edited on Sat May-22-10 11:21 AM by BrklynLiberal
even thought I had been hearing crap on the station for years...as you described.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=8390360&mesg_id=8390580
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 08:26 PM
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34. It's been hard for me to forgive them for this ESPECIALLY when the stench of that attitude shows up
....every now and then
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 02:51 PM
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30. NPR just reeks of mediocrity.
It's nothing but easily-digestible pablum for educated retirees. Breathless reporting of the latest culture and tech "trends" in language your grandmother would understand. Sycophantic interviews with leaders of government and business. Constant repetition of DC "conventional wisdom" as unvarnished fact. News reporting too cowardly to even hint that one side might be lying in a political debate -- NPR are the undisputed kings of Washington false-equivalency, no matter how brazen the bullshit.

Oh, and the music. Good God, that fucking music...

Sure, there are decent programs on public radio, mostly distributed by other organizations like PRI. There are even some decent programs produced by local stations and distributed by NPR, like On The Media. However, anything that comes out of their news organization in D.C. is pretty much guaranteed to be crap.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 07:40 PM
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32. Perfect analysis...
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 02:53 PM
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31. NPR has been useless for years now
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 07:43 PM
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33. They have not been the same NPR for a long time now.
Since they got 200 million dollars from the McDonald's heiress.


Or was it earlier?
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 11:43 PM
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35. Please do not disrepect National Petrolium Radio.
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