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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 12:51 PM Original message |
Putting to rest the silly 'so you always drive 65 or under, right?' talking point. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. They are both civil offenses |
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terrapinwelcher (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 12:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Talk About Picking Nits |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
2. Do people who claim that they're against illegal immigration but not legal immigration... |
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terrapinwelcher (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. You Are All Over the Place, My Friend |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. No, you just can't follow. |
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terrapinwelcher (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. If The AZ Law is Unconstitutional |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. If the law was constitutional... |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:37 PM Response to Reply #17 |
33. The same ACLU that fights for Neo-Nazi and KKK free speech rights? |
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terrapinwelcher (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. You Don't See |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:26 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. it would be highly unusual for a sitting president to declare a state law unconstitutional |
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terrapinwelcher (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Obama Can't "Declare" the Law Unconstitutional |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:42 PM Response to Reply #27 |
38. I think the legal opposition is pretty clear WRT the profiling/civil rights issue. |
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christx30 (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 08:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
59. Other than |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #7 |
23. Oh, please do pick a fight with HFPS. Just let me grab some popcorn first. nt |
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Decoy of Fenris (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
42. Let me in on some of that. |
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terrapinwelcher (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
3. I For One |
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Ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
5. Please don't compare the two |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. How about shoplifting, it is very "minor" |
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terrapinwelcher (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Whatever Your Conscience Allows, I Suppose |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. "Hopefully, your answer is "NONE of them."" |
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terrapinwelcher (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:21 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Nice Try |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. terrapinwelcher, please. |
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terrapinwelcher (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Whatever Dude |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:26 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I have "heard it all before skills." |
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terrapinwelcher (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Sounds Like You Are Wrong Fairly Often, Then |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:28 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Nope. Perfect track record. |
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terrapinwelcher (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. "You People" |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:35 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. The ones with lots of black friends. |
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terrapinwelcher (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. I Currently Don't Have Any |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. I know, terrapinwelcher, I know. |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. The more accurate question is 'what laws should people be REWARDED for breaking?' |
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terrapinwelcher (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:23 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. And That is an Additional Point |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:29 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. Agreed that the Reagan Amnesty was a huge mistake. |
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Ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 11:47 PM Response to Reply #26 |
62. Reagan would have deeply regretted it if he were alive and well |
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Ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 11:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
61. Just car laws |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. So is breaking immigration law. |
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terrapinwelcher (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. That's a Debate |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. It's a debate you know you can't win. |
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terrapinwelcher (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Damn! |
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Ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 11:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
60. And as far as US law goes, breaking the speed limit is far worse |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
28. I see the self-proclaimed... |
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terrapinwelcher (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. I'm Not Sure What Your Point Is |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #30 |
44. Point being that consistency matters... |
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terrapinwelcher (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 05:05 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Oh, That Makes Sense |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Nobody 'justifies' breaking speed limit laws. |
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terrapinwelcher (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Look, I've Already Gone on Record |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. I predicated my position not on the actions and reactions of law enforcement... |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 05:45 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. I doubt that very many of us who oppose illegal immigration have ever |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
39. Another classic piece of nativist sophistry... |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:48 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. I didn't invent the 'speeding and illegal immigration' analogy. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. 'pro-illegal side of this argument' - how very very right wing you sound. |
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terrapinwelcher (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 07:14 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Nice Ad Hominem |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 07:15 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. That "messenger" is well known for these type of messages. And now you will be too. |
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terrapinwelcher (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 07:43 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Nope |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 07:56 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. You're preaching to the choir here |
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terrapinwelcher (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 08:08 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Yeah |
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terrapinwelcher (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:50 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Based Upon What Legal Precedent |
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Puzzler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
51. By that argument, no law should be enforced. |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
52. Do you think they should be deported? n/t |
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terrapinwelcher (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 07:47 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Crack Down Heavily on Businesses |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
53. Well here, you're supposed to drive with the flow of traffic |
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terrapinwelcher (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 07:44 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. That's the Law |
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