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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 08:29 AM Original message |
Is putting your money in the "market" investing or gambling? |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
1. You missed out |
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catnhatnh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
2. Putting your money into the market... |
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liberalla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
3. I got out in 2005, and am not even tempted to go back. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
4. With regulations=investing, without regulations=gambling. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 09:03 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Why is market stability a good thing? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 09:20 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. You ask that while many investors approaching retirement lost their savings |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 09:26 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. They only lost if they sold at the bottom. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 09:32 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Yes exactly, if only investors knew when the bottom and tops are we'd all be rich. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 09:39 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. That assumes the game is zero sum. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 10:53 AM Response to Reply #19 |
36. You keep saying "the overall market". What about the 95% of us that are in the game? |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 10:57 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Not true. Please read what I posted. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 10:21 AM Response to Reply #13 |
30. And what is the value of our current currency vs 1989? |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 10:23 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. That is not adjusted for inflation. |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 09:27 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Investors approaching retirement |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 10:10 AM Response to Reply #14 |
27. While they increase their bond holdings mix, |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 10:17 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. You can choose to not buy financial company based bonds. You can choose to buy non-callable bonds. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 10:33 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. I do when I can buy below par. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 10:44 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Agreed. Regulation = rules of the game. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 05:08 PM Response to Reply #35 |
46. At this point, I would tend to support that. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
5. "We are buying the stocks from another gambler that is betting the price will go down." |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 09:24 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Yes that looks great. What I dont see there is the difference between the |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 09:36 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. You can't compare the average guy and the privledge guy |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 09:37 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Your not reading right. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 09:40 AM Response to Reply #12 |
21. The returns are the same - that's just a DJIA index fund |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
6. The misunderstanding of the Stock Market and the confusion of it with banking is astounding |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
8. The Stock Market is NOT the place for amateurs |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 09:18 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. "The company loves to match a piece of paper for your hard earned dollars. Doesn't cost them nothing |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 09:47 AM Response to Reply #10 |
24. Explain this to a neophyte: how do profitable companies get away with not paying dividends? |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 09:56 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Very simplified answer but. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 10:16 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. But Apple's board is a fiduciary to EXISTING shareholders, not FUTURE shareholders... |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 10:22 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Couple points. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 10:27 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Thank you for your responses on this thread. They've been informative. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 10:55 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. No problem. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 11:29 AM Response to Reply #33 |
40. One thing about dividends is make sure they are in in tax protected/deferred account. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 01:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
43. Companies like ENRON and others only match with its own company stock |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 01:57 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. No they didn't. (and the articles you provided as proof don't make that claim). |
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el_bryanto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
9. Are you a capitalist? And if so how do you propose corporations raise capital? |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 09:29 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. I believe that there should be a mix of capitalism and socialism. And I dont have a problem with |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 09:42 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. So a good company issues stock and you buy some. |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
20. That depends on you and your reasons for investing. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
22. Even before the bailouts, the governments covered your losses. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #22 |
39. Unfortunately I know too much about taking losses and loss carry over. |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
25. Depends on whether you are small time or one of the big boys. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
41. It depends on why you're buying stock |
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Stevenmarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
42. If you have to ask, well, enough said. |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
45. One problem I see with the market is that far too many decision makers in listed |
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branders seine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
47. it is feeding the beast that is devouring you |
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