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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:10 AM
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Cenk Uygur is the Problem (Updated 2x)
Edited on Tue May-11-10 08:00 AM by WeDidIt
Cenk Uygur is the Problem (Updated 2x)

by JPSander

Mon May 10, 2010 at 05:41:52 PM PDT

Obama derangement syndrome has hit the left and it's starting to bother me.

* JPSander's diary :: ::
*

The left is in an uproar over Elena Kagan's nomination. Nevermind the fact that most people know nothing about her other then she is a democrat and she has never rendered a court decision in her life.

So what does the left do? We take a few things she has said and wrote over the course of the last 30 years that we may not like and a couple of associations over 30 years we may not like at first glance and render a conclusive decision about her. Do we let her tell us about herself so we might get a sense of her? No. Do we let her answer some questions that we may have about some things that on the surface may seem troubling to progressive's? No.

What do we do? We render a conclusive judgment on her and then go ape shit on the blogosphere. And why are we so quick to rush to judgment on her, well according to Cenk Uygur it's because Obama picked her. Wow!

<snip>


More in this Rec List Daily Kos diary

Nail. Hammer. Head.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:13 AM
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1. The Cenk diary is a Rec List diary, too.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:15 AM
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3. I mentioned it was a Rec List diary
to avoid being called out as flamebait. Were it flamebait, it would never make the Rec List. This is a thoughtful examination of the Obama Derangement Syndrome that has infected the left.

The diarist makes valid points.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:17 AM
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5. Hissy is saying that Cenk's post is on the Rec List as well.
That being said, it's safe to say the Left is pretty divided on this.

However, the post criticizing Cenk has far more rec's than Cenk's and it's points are more thought through. Cenk's only issue with Kagan is that Obama nominated her.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:21 AM
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6. Cenk was a pretty big supporter during the primary
Did a lot of work to bring attention to the President's efforts against Hillary.

2012 may prove to be very interesting, particularly if the early builders of the Obama movement, try to build something else.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:28 AM
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7. Yep, ODS on the left is a product of our "instant gratification" culture
Nobody has any patience.

The lack of patience nearly destroyed any possibility ofr health care reform.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:31 AM
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9. I think the Senate did that
Edited on Tue May-11-10 07:31 AM by AllentownJake
:rofl:

Hell even the President thought he'd have a bill by September 2009 at the latest.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:35 AM
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13. delete
Edited on Tue May-11-10 07:36 AM by Hissyspit

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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:14 AM
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2. Obama Derangement Syndrome. LOVE IT!
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:36 AM
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14. You mean like...
the Bush Derangement Syndrome that didn't actually exist but was used as deflection tactic? You really want to mimic far-right memes?
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:45 AM
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22. Well, Hissy, I'm glad you mentioned that. The purity tests being put up for Obama
Edited on Tue May-11-10 07:47 AM by berni_mccoy
and his nominations from the left are akin to the way the right is Teabagging its way to ineffectiveness.

A day doesn't go by when the "liberalness" of long time posters on this board isn't questioned, but it's questioned every minute of those who continue to support President Obama. Do we think he walks on water? Hell no. He's made mistakes and choices we don't agree with. But the baseless attacks on Kagan are really indicative of teabaggery from the left.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:54 AM
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24. +1,000,000,000,000
:thumbsup:
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:16 AM
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4. So many enemies of the President
So little time for you.

You do realize, that doing this sort of thing only emboldens people instead of letting them dissent to a choice.

I really could care less, you guys and I don't just mean on DU are playing right into where I want you to go, but just giving you a little friendly advice.
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Prism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:30 AM
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8. So many messengers, so few bullets
Busy week, isn't it.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:32 AM
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10. Cenk shot himself in the foot with that comment.
If his only reason for not liking Kagan is that Obama picked her, then it really wouldn't matter who Obama picked. It was one of the dumbest things the man has ever said.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:34 AM
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11. In a long line of dumb things.
I had to tack that on.
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Prism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:37 AM
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17. Oh, he wasn't even holding a gun
Edited on Tue May-11-10 07:38 AM by Prism
The only people likely to be riled by Cenk's comment are those who think any categorization of the President that doesn't involve walking on water and spontaneous biological bliss ponk is a form of blasphemy. The President does play it safe and doesn't like to expend political capital. That's a simple fact of the man's nature. He proves it all the time. Most notably on items like DADT.

I like President Obama's judicial nominations in general. But the way you guys are attempting to Hamsher half the blogosphere . . .

It's probably a good thing I don't form my political opinions out of pure spite. If that were the case, I'd be throwing down against Kagan with the best of them.

The mass execution of messengers around here has a sulfurous way about it that leaves me wanting to oppose the hell out of whatever our resident firing squad is supporting.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:38 AM
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19. Like I said above
The people with the real Obama derangement syndrome are playing right into the hands of the people who beleive the President sold out.

Keep it coming guys!
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Prism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:40 AM
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20. November is going to be interesting
I've never carried so many bruises from people claiming to be on my side.

The Ike Turner Democrats always show up, on every issue, sure as the sun will rise.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:42 AM
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21. Piss enough people off
Someone with ambition will go to fill a vacuum, I mean that is the story afterall of Mr. President and his victory over a certain former first lady.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 09:23 AM
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33. +1000 nt
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 01:34 PM
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35. You are not alone.
I have no brief for or against Kagan, but I know that I oppose and reject the smear and bullying tactics employed by her so-called defenders.

These self-styled "advocates" do more damage to the president than they seem capable of recognizing.


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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:34 AM
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12. Another good reason to stand with Cenk.
As you throw the same shit at him that you have thrown at me and so many others here.

Up with Cenk, drain the swamp.


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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:36 AM
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15. I didn't write the diary.
I suggest you sign up on DK and direct your anger at the diarist.
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tmyers09 Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:37 AM
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18. But you were oh-so- pleased to post it.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:47 AM
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23. A DUer yesterday was oh so pleased to post Uygur's article teargin down Obama
Turn about is fair play.
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 08:01 AM
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26. This response from the Kos thread expresses my opinion succinctly.


Uyger right, diarist wrong. (5+ / 0-)

To those on this thread, along with the diarist, who act as if it makes the Baby Jesus cry any time Obama is criticized from the left: You are either not very bright, or you care more about your personal love of Obama than you care about the cause of progressivism.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 08:07 AM
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29. You're free to hold that opinon
That does not alter the fact that the Cenk diary got fewer recs than the diary criticizing the asshat.
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 01:29 PM
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34. I am sure the forces can marshall the votes.
Obama is the president and Cenk is just a commentator.

What I object to, again, is the attempt to demonize and silence any and all critics, "as if the Baby Jesus cries" every time the president is criticized or held to account regarding a descision that impacts us all as citizens.

Citizens who ELECTED him and to whom he is accountable.

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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:56 AM
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25. A response from the Kos thread:
Edited on Tue May-11-10 08:03 AM by freddie mertz


Americans want SOMETHING, not "more." (5+ / 0-)

And Americans have a goddamned good right to expect something from an administration that campaigned on the idea that it was going to move the moon to bring about "change." Instead, after 15 months, we have the absolute status quo everywhere, except in those areas where things are getting worse. This is not because things take time--of course things take time, and everybody understands that. It's because the administration isn't doing anything for the public--only for Wall Street.

It isn't about time, nor is it about patience or impatience. The objections made by this administration's critics are not about all the good things it isn't doing; they're about all the bad things it is doing, starting with the continuation and extension of the previous regime's war, domestic spying, and torture policies.

And if I understand correctly, this "I didn't get a pony" meme is now HR-able.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 08:02 AM
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27. Try now. I screwed up the link
I linked to the full blown thing with all comments.
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 08:04 AM
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28. Got it, and included a quote from the thread in my post above.
Thanks for the fix.
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tmyers09 Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:36 AM
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16. The smear machine moves on!
Out in full force this week, I see.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 09:08 AM
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30. Yes, it was quite a smear from Cenk. Saying Kagan is a bad pick because Obama picked her
definitely a smear.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 01:35 PM
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36. Geeze..when I originally read that about cenk..
I thought he was saying the so called "left" was criticizing Elena Kagan just because President Obama nominated her..I didn't realized he was exposing himself as the cheap shot artist I've come to know him as.

Does that fatten up his coffers to throw such toxic red meat from an empty chair?
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 09:17 AM
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31. No, it's because it's a cynical pick...the qualifications for SCOTUS should NOT be...
"Well, she won't get filibustered."
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 09:20 AM
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32. Wow- it's getting crowded under that bus.
Next time you're angry about electoral losses and wonder where the voters were, remember to check under the bus.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 04:07 PM
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37. Obama haters have their own bus... let's take a look who's under it, shall we?
Kucinich, Franken, Pelosi, the entire Progressive Caucus (they supported the HCR bill you know), the list goes on and on. Those people just aren't liberal enough for y'all.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 04:10 PM
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38. I think apologists are a bit delusional
you get your way because you agree with just about everything he does, yet when one person points out how wrong you are, ya just can't handle the truth. As for "haters"... grow up already.
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