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TalkingDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 04:33 PM Original message |
From National Journal Magazine: Do "Family Values" weaken families? |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. This deserves 100+ recommendations |
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TalkingDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 04:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I have often wanted to recommend my own posts for that very reason n/t |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 05:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. +1000 +++ n/t |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. Ross Douthat admitted as much in today's NY Times...nt |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
4. "Family values" is just code for hatin' gays 'n' wimmen. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
5. The word "family" is becoming a derogatory word IMO because of the destructive use of |
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CLANG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:59 AM Response to Reply #5 |
27. Yeah, like "The Phelps Family". Kind of puts it in perspective... |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. Then there's THE Family....y'know who runs the C Street brothel. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 04:59 PM Response to Reply #27 |
51. Yeah, that is a family of some pretty strange characters except the one son that |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
7. And people with 'family values' take a holier than thou attitude |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
8. makes sense |
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tanyev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
9. They're talkers/yellers/screamers, not doers. |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
10. Big kick and rec... |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
11. Evening kick |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
12. I am curious if the state of education in the blue states vs red states |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 09:16 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. It matches those patterns |
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proReality (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 09:46 AM Original message |
I think a lot of the difference is that |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
40. Yah - just say no ... to dad, uncle booger, your brothers and cousins. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 05:09 PM Response to Reply #40 |
52. Their environments/beliefs are so sexually repressed, so it manifests itself |
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ShamelessHussy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
14. That rings very true |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
15. money strengthens families, economic stress divides & destroys them. |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 09:44 AM Response to Reply #15 |
33. And also the ones getting the most money from the treasury |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
16. "Family values" often goes along with mistreatment of women |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 10:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Not only that, but also the notion of "putting the fear of god" into children, |
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Maraya1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 05:03 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. That reminds me of a woman I knew a long time ago who's |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:11 PM Response to Reply #16 |
54. So true. The conservatives are always uptight about something, red faces, |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
18. Authoritarians & their sheep do not think it necessary to identify with values through the processes |
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BlancheSplanchnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:53 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Thanks! I enjoyed this post! n/t |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 08:05 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Welcome and Good Morning! |
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BlancheSplanchnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 08:08 AM Response to Reply #28 |
56. ... |
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Mopar151 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 08:25 AM Response to Reply #18 |
30. No wonder the minister's kids are messed up... n/t |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #30 |
41. Often, most especially so, because "Virtue" is equated with blind acceptance of |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 12:56 PM Response to Reply #30 |
43. Actually, it depends on the minister. |
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Mopar151 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. You are of course, somewhat correct. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 12:54 PM Response to Reply #18 |
42. Very true in my experience, patrice. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:14 PM Response to Reply #18 |
55. Excellent analysis!!! n/t |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 05:18 AM Response to Original message |
20. Surprise (not) |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 06:56 AM Response to Original message |
21. "family values" is code for religious right wing republicans |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:09 AM Response to Original message |
22. The word 'family' is a weapon for many Americans |
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The_Commonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:24 AM Response to Original message |
23. That's quite fascinating. |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 02:52 PM Response to Reply #23 |
47. The article was interesting, and the book would be a good read |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
24. Whenever I hear the term "Family values", I want to puke |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
26. "I have never met anyone in whom the moral sense was superior who was not |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
29. Every other generation people forget why there was a generation |
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Nydari (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
31. Good article, thanks for posting. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
32. Old news really. Glad this fact is finally getting some coverage |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
34. I wonder if the so-called media will pick this story up? |
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ck4829 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
35. Letting the puritans and the government run your family can't be good for it |
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MissMarple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
36. Other research on teen sexual activity has backed this up. n/t |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
38. Tremendous family values fail. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
39. There's a more sympathetic view to this than hypocrisy |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
44. The places with the lowest divorce rates are also the least religious. |
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drmeow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
45. One thing I think the article/study got partially wrong |
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h9socialist (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
48. "Doublethink" in action! |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
49. It could be because "politics are local". |
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BEZERKO (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
50. This has been said many times and in many ways. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
53. Family Values is code for Repukes that pretend they live life by a certain code. |
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