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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 03:18 PM
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How are so many people getting away with calling for armed insurrection?
That is all I want to know, how is it that so many people are calling for armed insurrection in this country and nobody is going to jail for it? Can it be because it is primarily white men doing it? If it were any other demographic of persons making the call to arms you can bet they'd be using football fields to hold the overflow of prisoners and the blood from cracked heads would be flowing in in the streets.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 03:19 PM
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1. sad to say it but I think you answered your own question....
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LiberalLoner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 03:20 PM
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2. Because it's right-wingers calling for it. They just about own this country and I don't know
if we are going to be successful at keeping a democracy, given their willingness to shed blood to assert t heir minority will over the majority.

If we can keep democracy alive for another twenty years or so we might be okay, since it seems to be mostly white men in their 60's and older who are the most dangerous, and they are going to be going bye-bye in another twenty years or so for the most part.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 03:50 PM
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3. For context, this appeared on DU a short while ago:
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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 03:54 PM
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4. Because right wingers get a pass.
They always do, on stuff like this. They think they own the notion of armed insurrection and it should only be for their purposes. And sadly, the media is willing to push their case.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 03:56 PM
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5. Well as with anything else they think, wrong.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 03:56 PM
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6. Yep. You answered your own question. n/t
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 04:27 PM
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7. IOKIYAR
If it were anyone other than the 'tea baggers' there would be all sorts of arrests.

Can you imagine if the progressives had talked like this during the Bush years?
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unlegendary Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 04:43 PM
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8. Maybe it's time for progressives to arm because they keep pushing
Edited on Sun May-09-10 04:51 PM by unlegendary
So what are you going to do? Sit and say, Well, OK, they win because they have all the guns and we don't.? If they've made it legal to carry guns then by golly, start carrying guns to progressive rally's and see what goes down. If they open fire on us then the case will be made then and there why this nation has to abandon carrying guns in public for everyone when political rallys become fire fights.
Someone IS going to die and it can be for a good reason or it can be for no good reason. If no progressives carry guns then the conservatives will win without ever having fired a single shot and you'll live in a neo-Nazi controlled nation. You can bet your last breath if they get their ways the law will be changed that ONLY registered fleabaggers may be allowed to own guns and everyone else must give their up.
If you're afraid of dying I have sad news for you. YOU WILL DIE! It can be under the jackboot of a fleabagger or it can be in a firefight to end the insanity.
You all talk a lot about organizing and stopping these people, but the facts are showing that they are gaining strength and you sit afraid the cops will just smash progressives for carrying guns when the law clearly permits it. Again, you can die standing up for what you believe or you can die under their boots. The choice is yours.
When you sit unarmed saying or afraid because of,
"If it were any other demographic of persons making the call to arms you can bet they'd be using football fields to hold the overflow of prisoners and the blood from cracked heads would be flowing in in the streets."
You're really saying you're afraid of conservatives and will capitulate eventually. I'm old enough now and sick enough that I have zero fear of death. I don't buy the god stories and if they want to gun me down in th street then I hope someone takes note that I was willing to die for what I believe instead of people just naysaying and pretending if we hug each other that conservatives will see the error of their ways. That ain't gonna happen without blood being shed. If everyone fears death and guns that much then perhaps you deserve to be controlled by these morons.
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Caretha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 08:34 PM
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12. What makes you think
that liberals, democrats, progressives are unarmed?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 09:37 PM
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14. actually,
I am armed.

I have been honing my gardening and wood-working skills. I think they'll come in useful at some point.

You read quite a bit about me into that post, and I'm sorry to tell you that you're way off the mark, as far as how 'I' am responding.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 04:49 PM
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9. Because we have a Bill of Rights which protects people (left and right) who advocate the overthrow

of the government. Mere advocacy is not and should not be illegal.

Now if a group is engaged in a conspiracy to overthrow with minority armed violence a democratically elected government that is a different matter.

However, if a dictatorship were to achieve power in the United States, do you think people who wanted to overthrow such a dictatorship should have the right to advocate its overthrow and work to achieve that objective?

And if an armed fascist movement attempted to establish such a dictatorial regime, do you think we would have the right and duty to stop them by any means necessary?

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kelly1mm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 05:38 PM
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10. Because what you describe is not illegal. Sedition is not illegal, treason
is. For more information and the legal test see Brandenburg v. Ohio.
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unlegendary Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 08:14 PM
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11. Make these morons feel small..
Send bus loads of black and Latino men legally heavily armed to these rallys and see just how long they demand everyone carry guns. I bet they back down REAL fast and suddenly want all the laws changed.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 10:38 PM
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15. They won't back down but we might have a shoot out. Not a smart thing to do at this point.
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Nightshade01 Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 09:20 PM
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13. That One's Easy
"Can it be because it is primarily white men doing it?"

YES
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