re: Kpete's Regan / Bush OCT. Surprise / Hostage for weapons swap OP..

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Good morning and Happy Mother's Day DU. Some of you might know me as a big Jimmy Carter fan. I am. I have read many of his books, and have enjoyed studying his life and presidency.
Recently DU'er KPETE posted a thread - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=8289860&mesg_id=8289860 - documenting more (Russian) proof that Regan/Bush did in fact offer Iran an arms deal to hold American hostages longer then needed.

I've always thought that this is the case.

But I do not think that the soviet / Russian documents offer solid proof of these events.

To me, solid proof would come in the form of a statement by either Robert Gates or Jimmy Carter. Gates is accused in the Russian/Soviet report of taken part in the hostage for arms deal. Jimmy Carter is accused of also negotiating an arms for hostages deal with Iran.

I've read several of Carter's books. He does mention the Iranian crisis, but to the best of my recollection, never admits to negotiating with Iran an arms deal to release the hostages.

If Carter did take part in these types of negotiations, there is no reason to hide it now.

I really want to know.

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1. Carter did have something to say about it.

"The Iranian parliament was meeting and we had every information from Bani-Sadr and others that they were going to vote overwhelmingly to let the hostages go. And at the last minute on Sunday for some reason they had adjourned without voting.... The votes were there, but the Ayatollah or somebody commanded them to adjourn."

--President Carter, interviewed in The Village Voice

http://thereaganyears.tripod.com/1980election.htm

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2. he does talk about the situation in some of his journals

but he never admits that he was negotiating an arms for hostages deal. I would like to see him do so if it is true.

Thanks for the link and info.. I will read it now..

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3. Yes, I knew you were wanting more than that.

I just threw in what I had as food for thought.

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4. I appreciate that

I read the whole thing.. peace..

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5. Saint Ronnie is one of my favorite subjects.

Here, let me share some more links:

The Real Reagan Legacy - Debunking Myths
Ronald Reagan, the Bonzo President
Even Reagan was no Ronald Reagan
The Myth of Reagan's Popularity
The Reagan Years Were Enough to Make You Cry

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6. thanks for these

I was in 5th grade when Carter lost.. I've never got over it - never liked Raygun or Bush.. or W..

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