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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 07:29 AM
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Firecane? Is this possible?

What happens when the hurricanes start this year and lightning strikes the oil slick in the gulf?

http://bitsandpieces.us/

I swear my brain is going to melt. If it would work, a thunderstorm would be sufficient.
(I'd change the word government to Mother Nature)
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 07:35 AM
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1. If it is, some conservative will try to find a way to make it happen so they can make money.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 08:18 AM
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9. Halliburton already on top of this:Halliburton to Buy Boots & Coots, Adding Oil-Well Firefighting Se
Halliburton to Buy Boots & Coots, Adding Oil-Well Firefighting Services
by on APRIL 10, 2010
By Vivek Shankar April 10 (Bloomberg) — Halliburton Co. agreed to buy Boots & Coots Inc. for about $240.4 million in stock and cash, adding equipment and services to fight oil-well fires. Boots & Coots holders will receive $1.73 in cash and $1.27 in Halliburton stock per share, Halliburton said in a statement yesterday. The combined price, $3, is 28 percent more than Boots & Coots’ closing price yesterday. Both companies are based in Houston. The addition of Boots & Coots will allow Halliburton to offer a more complete suite of services to customers, said Marc Edwards , a senior vice president. Halliburton is the world’s second-largest oil-field services company after Schlumberger Ltd. Edward “Coots” Matthews , who died on March 31 at 86, founded the company in 1978 along with Asger “Boots” Hansen . For 20 years prior to that, they had worked with Red Adair, whose skill at battling oil-well fires was portrayed in the 1968 movie “Hellfighters,” starring John Wayne as Adair. Both Matthews and Hansen were involved in fighting well- known oil-well blowouts, including the “Devil’s Cigarette Lighter” in Gassil Touil, Algeria, in 1961 and another at Lake Maracaibo in 1991. They also extinguished the fires from 700 oil wells in Kuwait, blazes set by retreating Iraqi troops near the end of the first Gulf War in 1991, according to the company. For 2009, Boots & Coots reported net income of $6 million, or 8 cents a share, on revenue of $195.1 million. Halliburton said the boards of both companies had approved the transaction and it will close this summer. Boots & Coots had 80.13 million shares outstanding as of March 2, according to Bloomberg data. The stock fell 3 cents to $2.35 yesterday. It’s up 42 percent for the year. Halliburton fell 9 cents to $31.57 in New York Stock Exchange composite trading yesterday. The shares have climbed 4.9 percent this year. To contact the reporter on this story: Vivek Shankar in San Francisco at vshankar3@bloomberg.net

http://industry-news.org/2010/04/10/halliburton-to-buy-boots-coots-adding-oil-well-firefighting-services/
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 10:07 AM
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11. Look at the date on that
10 days or so before the oil rig blowup...? Does that look fishy to anyone else?
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 10:16 AM
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13. Damn fishy.
Edited on Thu May-06-10 10:22 AM by mod mom

Timeline of Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill
April 20: The MODU Deepwater Horizon deep-water oil drilling rig explodes and catches fire in the Gulf of Mexico at about 10 p.m. 126 people were on board, 11 go missing and at least 15 are injured. read

http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/05/a_timeline_of_the_gulf_of_mexi.html
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 07:37 AM
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2. My first thought upon seeing this title was that someone had
crossed a habanero with sugarcane :9

Then upon seeing the photo, that it was the Syfy Channel's Saturday night movie, or The Most Stupidest Night On Television!!!11!

But upon reading your post, my thoughts are "not a chance" ;)

Much of the oil has emulsified with the water and why we aren't seeing all of it on the surface. If it were to somehow catch fire, the resulting steam would put it out right quick.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 07:49 AM
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3. No, not likely. Sound like someone is trying to ratchet up the FEAR!!!!
Hey, why no faceplam smiley? :faceplam:
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 07:58 AM
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4. Disaster capiltalism. Some corporation is waiting to profit. knr nt
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 08:05 AM
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5. LOL!!
:D:tinfoilhat: :beer:

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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 10:14 AM
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12. Swampy!!!!!!
Howdy.

You anywhere the mess and madness in La??
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 01:05 PM
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20. a stone's throw away
:hi: :hug:

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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 08:07 AM
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6. A hurricane would prevent fire
An oil spill would burn best on a smooth ocean where the oil is separated and concentrated on the surface.

Very choppy seas stir the oil and water together and would prevent a fire from being self-sustaining.

A hurricane even more so.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 08:12 AM
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7. Highly improbable
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 08:18 AM
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8. Seems pretty outlandish. OTOH,
the Cuyahoga River was known to catch on fire back in the day. Seems to me that the torrential rains, high surf, and heavy wind of a hurricane would put any fires out, but what do I know? :shrug:

Frankly, the real unimaginable disaster has already happened and we haven't even begun to understand the consequences. My worry with a hurricane would be the storm surge carrying all that toxic sludge onto the land and making entire areas uninhabitable. Farmland, houses, entire cities and towns poisoned forever.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 08:45 AM
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10. Only problem with that, it wouldn't be a big Hollywood release -
but you CAN expect to see it as a SyFy Saturday movie REAL soon.
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 11:27 AM
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17. Makes you wonder if SyFy mines sites like ours for ideas.
Can we copyright them? :D
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 12:39 PM
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18. I've got the script half-written already.
You see, when the hurricane hits the giant oil slick it draws the oil into the air in minute droplets where it blends with the highly oxidized air - then all it takes is a single bolt of lightning to ignite the entire 200 mile wide system. The heat from the burning hurricane of course pulls even more oil rich vapor from the ocean's surface, and the firestorm is approaching New Orleans (or maybe Miami). The only way to stop it is by detonating a hydrogen bomb high above the firestorm, causing a backdraft which will extinguish it.

Think I could be a writer for SyFy?
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 03:04 PM
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21. I think you should enlist the help of DU-er Dr. Strange
as he's good with the dialogue for such projects. Then talk to SyFy as you've got the right kind of plot for their Saturday night movie :D
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 10:16 AM
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14. Fire tends not to do well in water.
Huricane is dropping a lot of water. You likely couldn't keep the oil spill lit during a hurricane if you tried.

Also the waves will tend to disperse most of the oil below the surface (like shaking a salad dressing bottle).
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 10:17 AM
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15. The Coast Guard has been intentionally setting heavy patches of oil on fire
No, it's not going to happen.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 10:22 AM
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16. Atomic Twister? Is this possible?


When tornadoes hit a nuclear power plant, critically damaging the plant's cooling system, the results could be catastrophic.

OMG!

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Feron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 12:42 PM
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19. Fortunately any fire would quickly be put out by the rain.
And if the rain didn't put it out, the wind certainly would.

There's a lot more wind and water in a hurricane than lightning.
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greencharlie Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 03:07 PM
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22. lol... just LOL. nt
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