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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 03:50 PM
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Seize BP Petition . . .
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 03:51 PM
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1. They're not even an American company, are they?
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SoCalNative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 03:55 PM
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4. Neither were the owners of
the German ocean liners seized during WWI and later turned over to the United States Lines for use with their fleet.
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 04:01 PM
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5. Tell me, when you conflate the wartime seizing of enemy ships with "seizing BP"...
Edited on Wed May-05-10 04:01 PM by OneTenthofOnePercent
are you typing while keeping a straight face.
I must know, because that shit's hi-larious. :rofl:
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SoCalNative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 04:59 PM
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11. Since when would passenger vessels
not being used for troop transport be "enemy ships."

They were merely sitting dockside at the pier in NYC when they were seized.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 04:07 PM
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6. Amy Goodman covers some of BP's history . . . Obama biggest recipient of BP cash
“BP is one of the most powerful corporations operating in the United States. Its 2009 revenues of $327 billion are enough to rank BP as the third-largest corporation in the country. It spends aggressively to influence U.S. policy and regulatory oversight.” The power and wealth that BP and other oil giants wield are almost without parallel in the world, and pose a threat to the lives of workers, to the environment and to our prospects for democracy.

Sixty years ago, BP was called the Anglo-Iranian Oil Co. (AIOC). A popular, progressive, elected Iranian government had asked the AIOC, a largely British-owned monopoly, to share more of its profits from Iranian oil with the people of Iran. The AIOC refused, so Iran nationalized its oil industry. That didn’t sit well with the U.S., so the CIA organized a coup d’é tat against Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadegh. After he was deposed, the AIOC, renamed British Petroleum, got a large part of its monopoly back, and the Iranians got the brutal Shah of Iran imposed upon them, planting the seeds of the 1979 Iranian revolution, the subsequent hostage crisis and the political turmoil that besets Iran to this day.

In 2000, British Petroleum rebranded itself as BP, adopting a flowery green-and-yellow logo, and began besieging the U.S. public with an advertising campaign claiming it was moving “beyond petroleum.” BP’s aggressive growth, outrageous profit and track record of petroleum-related disasters paint a much different picture, however. In 2005, BP’s Texas City refinery exploded, killing 15 people and injuring 170. In 2006, a BP pipeline in Alaska leaked 200,000 gallons of crude oil, causing what the Environmental Protection Agency calls “the largest spill that ever occurred on the North Slope.” BP was fined $60 million for the two disasters. Then, in 2009, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) fined BP an additional $87 million for the refinery blast. Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis said: “BP has allowed hundreds of potential hazards to continue unabated. ... Workplace safety is more than a slogan. It’s the law.” BP responded by formally contesting all of OSHA’s charges.

http://www.seizebp.org/




Obama biggest recipient of BP cash

Politico
by Erika Lovley 5/5/10


While the BP oil geyser pumps millions of gallons of petroleum into the Gulf of Mexico, President Barack Obama and members of Congress may have to answer for the millions in campaign contributions they’ve taken from the oil and gas giant over the years.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36783.html#ixzz0n5j8Bzfv








http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36783.html
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 03:53 PM
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2. Might be a constitutional issue here.
Private property and compensation. Make BP pay for the cleanup, yes. But "seize BP"? I don't think so.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 04:09 PM
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7. Only their "private property" counts? What obout ours?
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 03:55 PM
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3. Hehehe, no
What a silly idea.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 04:14 PM
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8. Good idea. Hold their property until Gulf is 100% pristine
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 04:24 PM
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9. Agree . . . but just noticed this -- damages capped at $75 million???
Edited on Wed May-05-10 04:25 PM by defendandprotect
Even if BP doesn’t trick victims into signing away the right to sue, the 1990 Oil Pollution Act, while requiring polluters to pay the actual hard costs of the cleanup, caps the additional financial liability of a spill at just $75 million. Given that millions of people will be impacted by the spill, by the loss of fisheries and tourism, and by the cascade of impacts on related industries, $75 million is small change.

That is why Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., introduced a bill to raise the economic-damages liability cap to $10 billion, calling the bill the Big Oil Bailout Prevention Act. Riki Ott is touring New Orleans and the Gulf Coast, educating people about the toxic effects of the spill, and helping them prepare for the long fight ahead to hold BP accountable.

BP will surely continue its dirty practices, fighting accountability in the courts, in the press and on the oil-drenched beaches. BP: be prepared.

from the Amy Goodman article --

And, btw, my Senator Menendez is looking better and better every day!



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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 04:46 PM
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10. There's no cap if they were negligent
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 07:56 PM
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12. Menendez doesn't understand that? Exxon wasn't "negligent" . . . ??? Wish I had as much faith-!!
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 08:12 PM
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13. done
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