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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 01:51 PM
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We are all responsible for the oil disaster in the Gulf of Mexico
Edited on Thu Apr-29-10 02:15 PM by Cali_Democrat
If you are reading this post right now, you have nobody to blame but yourself for this oil spill. Blame Republicans? Blame Dems? Blame Obama? Hogwash! What you need to do is look in the mirror and blame yourself!

Drive a car?

Use a computer?

Have a cell phone?

Wear clothes?

Eat food from the grocery store or restaurants?

Watch TV?

Read books?

All those amenities brought to you by fossil fuel. So before you blame Republicans, Dems, Obama, and offshore drilling...look in the mirror and blame yourself.

You are responsible for all the innocent wildlife about to perish as a result of this oil spill.

Unless you live in the wild like Ted Kaczynski did, you are part of this society that relies on fossil fuels for everything.

You are to blame.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 01:54 PM
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1. Bull Shit. That's *exactly* what they want you to believe
Don't buy it.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 01:54 PM
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2. And you need to up your dosage.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 01:55 PM
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3. We can blame BP for not using proper safety measures.
We can blame the US government for not better regulating the safety. The extensiveness of this leak was preventable. Accidents happen, but this accident was made worse because of a lack of regulation and BP's focus on profit.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 01:58 PM
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4. More to come my friend, more to come.
Edited on Thu Apr-29-10 01:58 PM by Cali_Democrat
Unless dependence on fossil fuels like oil is eliminated, this will continue.

Who uses these fossil fuels? You do!
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:03 PM
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6. Of course I do, as does anyone in a modern society.
The inevitable accidents, though, can be lessened. We also should not be entertaining any ideas of expanding the use of oil rigs in the oceans.

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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:00 PM
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5. I told them to use the remote control valve
they answered, who the fuck are you?
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:07 PM
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7. there are plenty of people other than myself to blame
Edited on Thu Apr-29-10 02:07 PM by fishwax
everyone else who does that shit, for example. And, of course, politicians, corporations, and power brokers who work to eliminate any and all regulation, suppress alternative fuels, skirt the laws that are in place, and plenty of other offenses.

"you have nobody to blame but yourself for this oil spill."
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:08 PM
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8. Big Oil has the chokehold on energy
Transitioning away from the oil-based model would take some real top-down leadership and seriously upset some major operations that have become cemented into our economy.

But if nothing is done, we'll have a gulf full of toxic sludge down south thanks to our own stupidity, and it'll be one of the worst all-time environmental travesties. And it will happen again.

I wish the President would use this opportunity as a wake-up call that we need to get off oil and move towards greener energy that is less expensive and less harmful.

A couple greedy oil execs profit margins aren't worth destroying the planet's ecosystem no matter how you slice it.
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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:09 PM
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9. I really can't get into the societal guilt complexes some DUers try to dump on us!
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:12 PM
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10. Which grocery has foot? I've looked all over for it.
Nothing like a good ol' foot for dinner.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:13 PM
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11. Me too----pig's feet were the only ones there.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:16 PM
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13. LOL
Fixed :hi:
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:15 PM
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12. We are all responsible for not going to the firewall on renewable energy
Edited on Thu Apr-29-10 02:43 PM by TheKentuckian
Everything you listed has real life alternatives that we don't go to over money and/or powerful interests.

You can use this lame deflection or you can say now is the time and no cost is too high.

With nearly seven billion people we can't go back, we can't stay here and pollute ourselves into oblivion, so we must go forward.

Demand a Manhattan project on energy and vote out with extreme prejudice anyone that doesn't go to it with fervor regardless of affiliation.

Billions and trillions of lives depend on it.

Demand high efficiency and smaller vehicles.

Demand mass transit.

Demand more opportunities to work from home.

Demand the best and necessary and tell em to shove the crumbs up their ass!
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:18 PM
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14. I demand to know where 6,993 billion people are
6 trillion?

Are you thinking of ants, maybe?
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:43 PM
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19. Everything alive isn't a person and I meant a billion people and billions and trillions of lives
Edited on Thu Apr-29-10 02:44 PM by TheKentuckian
Is there any value to the web of life or is it just about the ones that look the most like you?

But thanks I edited it.
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Mojeoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:40 PM
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18. The Kentuckian has the right idea! We go forward. What good is wallowing in guilt?
Where does guilt wallowing get you? Unless your just kicking around until the "Rapture" comes along.
A fucked up polluted world is a prerequisite for the end times I believe.

However, communications and educations are what will bring us into the green future, not trying to misplace blame on people who have no say when it comes to the control of negative externalities and cheap ass safety decisions.

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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:19 PM
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15. Puhleeze.
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SalviaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:28 PM
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16. I guess we are all responsible for the mining disaster also.
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IndianaJoe Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:35 PM
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17. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa!
Let's see if I follow your reasoning correctly: My mother and father were Americans, to create me, they had sex, as a result I was born in America, in America people get around by using cars, I drive a car, I bought gasoline for my car, gasoline is made from oil, oil comes from drilling, some driller's are negligent about how they do it, one of the negligent drillers was doing his drilling offshore, owing to this particular driller's negligence an explosion resulted, the explosion destroyed the rig, tons of oil poured into the sea, this oil has now caused a catastrophe for the environment. But for the fact that I drive my car, this catastrophe would never have happened! I'm responsible! Forgive me for I have sinned!

This chain of causation, which places the blame on me as a car user, is just a tad attenuated. It's all based on "but for" reasoning. But for the fact that my parents had sex, this catastrophe would never have happened and I would be guiltless. It ignores the true and proximate cause of the problem -- the negligence of the oil company.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:50 PM
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22. But if the rig doesn't explode, the oil gets used
If it comes pouring out of a broken pipe, or extracted/processed/manufactured/etc, there isn't much difference.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 03:03 PM
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25. Tell that to the fishermen, tell that to the people depending on tourism,
and most certainly tell that to the devastated sea life.

There isn't suppose to be a mile deep and big as a state slick in the water.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:04 PM
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27. There aren't supposed to be cars and roads either(or even oil rigs)
Both of which devastate any number of ecosystems.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:47 PM
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20. I've heard this song before
It's got a nice beat but ya can't dance to it. No sale.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:48 PM
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21. More collective blame posts...
Sometimes the self-loathing of DU is just too much to take.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:51 PM
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23. No, it's Bush's fault
:nuke:
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:58 PM
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24. Jebus Christ
What a bunch of crap.

Feel free to internalize the world's problems and ills - life is too fucking short to start feeling bad about things that you have NO CONTROL OVER. I have enough shit to regret already....
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 03:04 PM
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26. Utter BS.
Blame the victim seems to have become a daily diet here.
:kick: & U

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