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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 09:07 PM
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Authoritarianism isn't "FREEDOM". So Teabaggers, stop equating the two, they aren't the same.
Authoritarianism is the heart and soul of the Teabag 'movement'.

Yet, Teabaggers cry "Freedom". They claim to be Pro-Freedom.

Authoritarians demand obedience to their beliefs. Do as I say,(not as I do)/Submit, agree or die seems to be their meme. Teabaggers view themselves as the 'Authority'. They know what's better for us then we do as individuals. When our freedom and free will clash with the TB view, the TB'er suddenly opposes individual freedom.

Let's examine the Teabag idea of freedom.

Opposing choice and women's reproductive freedom isn't freedom, it's Authoritarianism. It's also oppressive. Authoritarians want to force pregnancy on women and drive them back into the kitchen barefoot and pregnant.

Does the Teabag movement seem friendly to women's independence and things like the Lilly Ledbetter Act? Hell No!

Does that sound like freedom? Yet, TB'ers insist that they stand for freedom.

Opposing a person's right to organize, join, or belong to a union isn't freedom, it's Authoritarianism. It's also oppressive. Supporting fair pay for yourselves, Teabaggers while supporting low pay and wage-slavery for everyone else isn't freedom, it's Authoritarianism. It's also oppressive.

Does that sound like freedom to any sane person? Again, TB'ers insist it's all about freedom.

Opposing access to affordable health care for all isn't freedom, it's Authoritarianism. It's also oppressive.

Racism, xenophobia, bigotry, sexism, misogyny, homophobia are not freedom, they're Authoritarianism. They're all oppressive. The hatemongers flock to the Teabag 'movement'.

Calling for violent revolution against democracy isn't freedom, it's Authoritarianism. It's also oppressive.

The Teabag idea of freedom is really the freedom to oppress. Authoritarianism is not freedom.

Hitler was an Authoritarian, and a Fascist, and a Nazi.

Again, Authoritarianism is the heart and soul of the Teabag 'movement'.

Lurking Teabaggers, Authoritarianism IS NOT FREEDOM! Stop equating the two.

Stop soiling the word "FREEDOM".
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 09:11 PM
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1. Preach it Union Yes! And a big fat K & R.
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 09:26 PM
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2. Thanks!
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 09:39 PM
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3. And bless my soul for suggesting it
Edited on Sat Apr-24-10 09:41 PM by chill_wind
but if you ever get the time and are up to it, we could use another explicit lesson for them explaining that "Socialist" is not interchangeable with "Communist". (They are driving me insane.)

(But probably, we should just give them lots more time to digest this one for a while.)

:applause:

:thumbsup:
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 10:23 PM
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4. Thanks for the kind words.
Got me thinking now. The gears are whirring and steam is coming out my ears.:rofl:

Know what you mean too. I'm also very tired of them equating democratic socialism with state communism and calling Obama and Dems 'socialists' etc. They don't have a f'n clue as to what those words actually even mean.

You suggested a good idea! I'd relish the chance to write that OP.

Take care.
Peace
UY

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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 12:18 AM
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13. :-) You can do it, and it'll be good.
One of my favorites is when they attempt messages having references to both on the same signs.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 01:38 AM
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5. Yeah but it ain't socialism either so tea baggers are all for it.
Edited on Sun Apr-25-10 01:41 AM by Kablooie
They don't understand the definitions of either socialism or authoritarianism.

Heck they probably don't understand the concept of freedom either.

You can't argue with them, you can only scare them into doing what is right or wrong.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 02:59 AM
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6. They mean freedom from impurities
They (teabaggers) define freedom different from you. You probably define it as civil, political and human rights. They define it as freedom from impure behaviors and people. Freedom from having to be around or submissive to blacks, liberals, mexicans, gays, 'socialists', etc.

The cult of purity (feeling your society is invaded by impure 'others') is a huge part of authoritarian thinking. That is what they are referring to.

As long as blacks keep their heads down and don't cause trouble, liberals have no power and gays are in the closet, 'their' society is fine. But now that a black guy is in the white house, Pelosi is a liberal in charge of the house and gays are out and about, they are upset.

The 'freedom' they want is to not have to submit or put up with people whose views or appearance is different from their own. Trust me if a Pinochet came to power and established a military dictatorship, but he also purged all the civil rights and political rights out of the left, the teabaggers would be estatic. Freedom as they define it (keeping 'the others' out of the spheres of political, economic and social power) would be on the march. Freedom as most people define it (civil, political, human rights) would be under attack.


Watch this video, purity is far more important to conservatives than liberals:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs41JrnGaxc&playnext_from=TL&videos=gcAPbrzlz6I

And read this paper:

http://terpconnect.umd.edu/~hannahk/bulletin.pdf

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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 05:38 AM
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8. Yup, you're so correct. Freedom from 'others' is what those wingnuts are all about.
Thanks for the links. That was a very interesting video.

Bookmarked that paper and started to read it.

Thanks again. You added alot to this discussion.

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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 03:37 AM
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7. Every day is opposite day, for conservatives
Whatever they're accusing liberals of... THEY are doing.
"Liberal" media.

etc etc etc
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 06:25 AM
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10. Yup freedom to take the opposite view of anything 'librul' for no other reason than..
Fux Snooze told them to do so. Most of them really can't explain why they hate the left when asked.

Most answer that they heard it on Beckkk, Fux, Rush etc. When asked to elaborate it's either an empty stare in return or more mindless regurgitated Fux propaganda and talking points.

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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 05:51 AM
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9. K&R
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 09:24 AM
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11. I guess this is too obvious or it would have more recs in 12 hours
This should be at the top of the greatest page.

-Hoot
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 01:26 PM
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12. ..
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