Scott Roeder, convicted killer of George Tiller, is not enjoying prison

[proud2BlibKansan]

The man convicted of killing Wichita abortion provider George Tiller is not finding prison's accommodations to his liking.

Scott Roeder has filed a petition complaining about his treatment as well as asking for his release, according to an Associated Press report. A hearing has been scheduled for June 4 in Wichita so Roeder can air his grievances. Roeder is also appealing his murder conviction.

Roeder was found guilty in January of first-degree murder for killing Tiller and sentenced to a "hard 50" sentence, meaning he won't be getting parole for 50 years.

http://blogs.pitch.com/plog/2010/04/scott_roeder_convicted_killer_of_george_tiller_is_not_enjoying_prison.php

[Dappleganger]

1. Remind me to send him a care package

full of dog shit.

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[TheOther95Percent]

47. Dog shit and a coat hanger.

[roguevalley]

55. amazing. I didn't know all Manson had to do was make a petition

for his release. I hope no one tells him that. :sarcasm: this man is truly out of his skull. this is why I am against the death penalty. I want these guys to live forever.

[Hepburn]

86. Yeah, someone should have told Dalmer and Gacy...

...they could have gotten out, too. Just do a HC petition and complain about how one does not like the conditions in jail.

Scott Roeder ~~ what an asshole.

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

94. Hey! Dog shit helps my compost.

Roeder don't.

[alstephenson]

Too bad, so sad.

Rot in there, Roeder.

[Dreamer Tatum]

2. Tough cookies, murderer

Deal with it.

[malaise]

3. STFU Roeder

Who the hell cares.

[proud2BlibKansan]

6. Why won't he just go away?

[malaise]

16. He will

soon and very soon

[wtmusic]

4. Well, it ain't Club Med. nt

[bemildred]

5. Cognitive disconnect. nt

[Mz Pip]

Here's a newsflash for you,Scott

You're not supposed to like prison. It's supposed to be annoying. It's not a goddamn spa.

[JBoy]

7. The first 9 months of his prison life should be in a cell the size of a womb.

[AnArmyVeteran]

How about the ever-decreasing cell size?

How about that premeditated executioner be put in a cell that shrinks little by little, every day until it is just big enough to stand up or be crushed? It could start out as a 6 x 9 foot cell, but every day the bars would move toward him, decreasing his cell size. Then, when it becomes too small to even stand, it then shrinks to the size of a womb.

Of course, I don't advocate that kind of cruelty, even for the miserable likes of a premeditated murderer, but I know that's what evil thugs like this murderer truly deserve.

He must not believe in what he did after all, since if he was truly 'gods warrior' as he claimed, he would sit silently in prison and not dispute his guilty verdict. But by fighting his guilty verdict shows him to be the hypocritical, dishonest, fake christian he truly is.

I like your idea a lot though. It would be true justice.

[AnArmyVeteran]

57. How about the ever-decreasing cell size?

How about that premeditated executioner be put in a cell that shrinks little by little, every day until it is just big enough to stand up or be crushed? It could start out as a 6 x 9 foot cell, but every day the bars would move toward him, decreasing his cell size. Then, when it becomes too small to even stand, it then shrinks to the size of a womb.

Of course, I don't advocate that kind of cruelty, even for the miserable likes of a premeditated murderer, but I know that's what evil thugs like this murderer truly deserve.

He must not believe in what he did after all, since if he was truly 'gods warrior' as he claimed, he would sit silently in prison and not dispute his guilty verdict. But by fighting his guilty verdict shows him to be the hypocritical, dishonest, fake christian he truly is.

I like your idea a lot though. It would be true justice.

[demtenjeep]

102. rooming with the Carr Brothers

or BTK

[Doctor_J]

8. I think Jesus commanded him to murder Dr. Tiller (speaking through O'Reilly)

Roeder should take comfort in that fact, and pray his way to peace & serenity in his 6' x 8' taxpayer-funded home.

[LakeSamish706]

9. Sad movies for him... Ya do the crime ya do the time, so whats his problem? I don't

suppose Mr. Tiller wants to be where he is either.

[Bolo Boffin]

10. Ohhhhhh.

Poor Scott Roeder. He signed up for a quick execution/martyrdom and then it's home to Jesus and the bosom of Abraham. All of this prison stuff was not part of the deal!

[Yavapai]

52. What was he expecting, 72 virgins?

[jmowreader]

53. You've seen Scott Roeder, right?

If they gave him 72 virgins, just how many do you think would actually sleep with him?

[jgraz]

70. Thus proving the George Carlin aphorism

"Why is it that most of the people who are against abortion are people you wouldn't want to fuck in the first place?"

[EOTE]

67. He'll get 72 virgins, alright.

Just not the 72 he was expecting.

[okieinpain]

81. maybe that's what's wrong there are 72 virgins waiting for him in

his cell.

[peacetalksforall]

11. I am always wondering why men are the feircest fighters against abortion.

So hearing his name and knowing he has some experience of a few months of prison time I would like to know if he has had any conversations with rapists. I wonder how many conversations he will have had by his 50th year.

[hyphenate]

22. I can give you at least one reason

Men (not all) are control freaks. Abortion (and other choices) takes that control away from them, and they want it back. I've never done any kind of a study on it, but I would think that the men who protest at all these clinics are abusers as well. I know in the past (meaning 100+ years ago) that anytime a woman achieved something, the men who wrote history would gloss it off and attribute it to the man in the house. Many women used male pseudonyms for that very same reason.

[peacetalksforall]

63. I think your are right. on it all.

[MicaelS]

73. I'm a white man and I agree with you....

And the fact that there is a segment of the white male population (like Roeder) who are hardcore Fundamentalist Christians who hate women.

And the reason they hate women? Because they still "blame" Eve (women) for tempting Adam and thus the fall of Man in the Garden of Eden. I am not kidding.

[hyphenate]

89. Yep

I guess, like most of the fundie cult, that Adam and Eve were once as alive as you and me. I just am appalled that they can even assimilate the fact that they never existed. Metaphorically, of course, is one thing, but brass tacks flesh and bone hovers around psychopathy IMHO.

[demigoddess]

92. so much of fundamentalist religion blames all the evils of life on women.

we are the scapegoat for all those white men. Once outside a church I heard a group of men talking about going to a nearby town and 'beating up and maybe killing' an old woman for the sin of being an atheist!!! Don't think they would have said the same thing about an old man who was an atheist. They just would have called him an eccentric who would eventually come to his senses.

[TxVietVet]

97. You ever try to carry on some kind of conversation with a

fundie concerning abortion? Sooner or later, they will have to throw out the statement of "do you know how many white kids are aborted each year?".

They thrive on white man's power in all matters. They keep getting sicker and sicker.

[peacetalksforall]

105. I didn't know that.

[drmeow]

75. Check out Kristin Luker's

Abortion and the Politics of Motherhood (http://www.amazon.com/Abortion-Politics-Motherhood-California-Political/dp/0520055977/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1271958468&sr=1-2) - its an interesting analysis of both sides of the issue.

[BrklynLiberal]

84. Control control control. Not too many Unitarians are outspoken abortion opponents.

usually it is the Fundamentalist type religious nuts whose principles include keeping women "in their place".

That is why I believe any woman who joins their fight is something of a victim of "Stockholm Syndrome" or
a female misogynist.

[Tutankhamun]

100. I think you know the answer to that. I'm a man, and it's obvious to me.

It's the same reason George Carlin said people who are against abortion are usually people you wouldn't want to have sex with. People who are unattractive and know they'll never have to have an abortion find it easy to oppose abortion.

I suggest that such people, in their rabid opposition to abortion, actually find an outlet for their jealousy towards their more attractive peers.

[JerseygirlCT]

101. Because it's cheap

They can act all morally superior, and take "brave" stands, all the while never, ever, having to pay personally with their own bodies or liberty.

Chicken hawks of a different color, is all.

[hyphenate]

12. heh

:nopity:

[sharesunited]

13. I support Roeder's and ANY convict's access to rope and a sturdy overhead beam or pipe.

[LakeSamish706]

17. Thats what I suspect he might do actually. If he is complaining now, he ain't going to

make it in there.

[sharesunited]

19. Prison is torture. Opting out should be legitimized on purely humanitarian grounds.

[corkhead]

34. ! Thanks for the chuckle

:toast:

[BrklynLiberal]

85. Hmmmm how many millions of taxpayers' dollars would that save?????

:hide:

[BurtWorm]

14. Poow wittew baby...

:nopity:

[TheCowsCameHome]

15. Looks like Scott isn't as tough without his gun.

Ask nicely, maybe they'll make an exception since you're a big crybaby.

[Solly Mack]

18. Seems that dedication is crumbling. Snicker.

[Ohio Joe]

20. I thought he was going to show the inmates the joy of jeebus...

I guess they are not buying his shit either.

[Gman2]

21. We'll keep sending him files for escape. Pedo-files

[DinahMoeHum]

24. Good. For a self-righteous asshole like Roeder with no remorse

or forgiveness of heart, life imprisonment/"hard 50" is worse punishment than death.

No martyrdom for that POS.

Maybe we'll all get lucky and he'll off himself.

[scarletwoman]

25. Gee, Scott, lots of people avoid prison by not committing murder.

You, too could have avoided prison by not committing murder. But you decided differently. You got what you asked for by your actions.

sw

[City Lights]

26. Awwww, poor baby.

:nopity:

[MilesColtrane]

27. My advice to Roeder: Get used to it, motherfucker.

[Blue_Tires]

28. standard MO for a lot of lifers or death row inmates...

for starters they get to jam up the court system with futile appeals, and a daylong trip to the courthouse is like a mini-vacation for them...

[smoogatz]

29. Now that's a damn shame.

No doubt, in his delusion, he thought he'd be greeted as a hero by like-minded inmates.

I'm guessing it didn't quite work out like that.

[Botany]

30. Doing life for murder is not supposed to be fun.

BTW let me tell you how your appeal will go .... a judge will take 15 seconds and see your guilty plea and
have the clerk stamp the paperwork w/



As per your treatment tell it to Bubba in the prison yard I am sure he will be very comforting to you.

[RKP5637]

31. Here's a dime Scott. Call someone that cares. n/t

[hlthe2b]

32. Just curious, which prison is he in?

[KansDem]

43. I would suspect Lansing. That's our state prison.

I always thought it is to Kansas what San Quentin is to California.

...but I could be wrong.

on edit: That's where "Shelley" Shannon is imprisoned after shooting Dr. Tiller in both arms in Wichita in 1993:

At her trial in state court, Shannon testified that there was nothing immoral about trying to kill Tiller. The jurors deliberated for an hour. They convicted her of attempted murder. She was sentenced to 11 years in prison.<5><6>

Shannon signed the Army of God's statement in support of the actions of Paul Jennings Hill while incarcerated in Lansing, Kansas.<7>

On June 4, 1995, she pleaded guilty to setting fires at several abortion clinics in Oregon, California, Idaho and Nevada. She had been indicted by federal grand juries on 30 counts in connection with fires and acid attacks at nine clinics. Charges included arson, interference with commerce by force and interstate travel in aid of racketeering.<8><9> On September 9, 1995, U.S. Federal District Court Judge James A. Redden pronounced Shannon's sentence for these crimes. Departing upward from the applicable federal sentencing guidelines, the Court sentenced Shannon to 20 years in prison. The sentence was set to begin only after Shannon's 10-year incarceration for shooting Tiller is completed.<10>

Her daughter, Angela Shannon (born ca. 1974),<11> was prosecuted for sending a death threat in 1993 to George Woodward, a Milwaukee doctor who performed abortions. (The letter arrived on March 3, 1993 — a week before the murder of David Gunn.) The elder Shannon attempted to take the blame for the death threat, but in view of Angela's fingerprints having been found on the letter, Angela was convicted and sentenced to 46 months' incarceration in 1997.<12>

In 1998, Shelley Shannon filed a lawsuit contending that the sewage system in the Kansas prison was inadequate, and that sewage backups created unhealthful conditions for the inmates. Her lawsuit was dismissed by Federal District Court Judge Kathryn Vratil in Kansas City, Kansas. The dismissal was upheld by a 2-1 vote of the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.<13>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelley_Shannon

[Hawkeye-X]

72. No, he's currently in El Dorado Correctional Facility

http://www.doc.ks.gov/facilities/edcf/el-dorado-correctional-facility

http://bit.ly/ScottRoederPrisonRecord

[The_Commonist]

33. I feel kinda bad for the guy.

NOT!!!

[blue sky at night]

35. Heeeeeeeyyyyyyyyy Baby...........

don't the crime if you can't do the time!

[iris27]

36. Good.

That's how prison's supposed to work, jackass.

[eShirl]

37. Maybe murder wasn't such a good idea after all.

[Shell Beau]

38. Aww man. That's gotta suck.

:eyes:

[BlueIdaho]

39. Ya get what ya get and ya don't pitch a fit. nt.

[WolverineDG]

40. a musical interlude courtesy of Travis Tritt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLG2jaVdUMo

:evilgrin:

dg

[HughBeaumont]

41. Man, there's like . . . our world . . .. and then there's Scott Roeder's.

Asking for his release. Yeah. Scotty Boy, hate to be Johnny Raincloud and all, but I just don't believe that's a-gonna happen.

Talk about "Cheese done slid off dah crackuh".

[edbermac]

42. Beats not enjoying being in a casket.

And look at the bright side: You have lots and lots of time to read your Bible.

[Gman2]

46. Says who?

[liberation]

103. I know that generalizations are wrong, but I think no one who has ever been shot has enjoyed it

In fact the screams, agonizing pain, and the dying part of the equation leads me to believe that getting shot and dying is not a very pleasurable experience in the least.

[caty]

44. I hope he hates

prison with a passion. I hope he hates it more than he hates abortion doctors. I hope the other prisoners take their hatred of prison out on him. I hope he lives a long long life - in prison.

I'm usually a compassionate person, but I do have my limits. He is there to be punished for committing murder. It's not supposed to be a day at the spa. If he said, "heck, prison ain't so bad", I would be very disappointed.

[UTUSN]

45. I regret I have only one kick to give!1 n/t

[uppityperson]

48. Good. I bet George Tiller is not enjoying being dead either. eom

[The Straight Story]

49. Watching people suffer in prison makes me and others happy (nt)

[flvegan]

50. That means that the punishment is working.

[sonias]

51. Aw too bad

Too fucking bad Roeder! George Tiller wanted to have an option of how to live out the rest of his life but you took that away from him. Actions have consequences Roeder. Welcome to the bed you made!

[Hepburn]

54. Oh, I am so sorry....

...NOT.

Hope he enjoys the rest of his 50 years just as much as the first few days. Can't do the time ~~ don't do the crime.

[Catherine Vincent]

56. Tough Shit!

[mikeSchmuckabee]

58. There's just no pleasing some people.

He's got 50 years to think about that huge parade they'll throw for him upon his release. Sounds like the best years of his life.

[old mark]

59. "asking for his release"?...You are a little early, Scotty- Give it another

50 years or so, then try again.

I really think he was expecting to be set free and praised for his crimes. It hasn't struck him yet that this is all REAL!


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[Leftist Agitator]

60. Hmmm....

I wonder if he has ever stomped his way back to his cell, whining "I wish I'd never been born!"

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

61. I'm pretty certain that Dr. Tiller didn't enjoy getting shot....

So let's just call it even, shall we?

[lunatica]

62. If he complains loudly and long it might make other murderers think twice

before they decide to 'martyr' themselves by killing abortion providers. Let them see their hero be a crybaby and make a fool of himself by demanding what he doesn't deserve and won't get.

[Junkie Brewster]

64. I guess he thought he'd be hailed as a martyr to the cause

Seriously, who doesn't know that prison sucks, especially "Federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison".

[Rabrrrrrr]

65. that's weird, because RWers like him always say prison is a country club and too nice.

Rot in it, you shitbag.



And of course, he's such a SuperDuper faithful Christian, I bet that it will never dawn on him to think, "Wow, maybe our penal system isn't so great - maybe conditions in prison really are inhumane, and I could use my energy and my remaining years to try to make the experience more humane for EVERYONE in the system, because I think Jesus would say that even criminals deserve to be treated like human beings".

He'll never do that.

[BrklynLiberal]

87. Too nice...for others.......

[Junkie Brewster]

66. And one more thing- I wish Scott Roeder a long, healthy life

I hope he has ample time to enjoy his twilight years with absolute mental clarity.

[BrklynLiberal]

88. Incredible irony and luciously evil.

[JNelson6563]

68. Sorry but murder has it's consequences.

Even for those who kill to make a political statement. What a dumbass.

Julie

[Downtown Hound]

69. I can picture the parole board now

"Oh, you mean he doesn't like prison? Well, let's get him outta there immediately!" LOL.

Sorry Roeder, there's plenty of people experiencing the same thing you are for doing a lot less. You're going to stay there for years and years and years, and in time, no one will remember you or the "noble" act you performed. You wasted your life and you ended another. Now sit in your cell for a few decades and ponder that.

[struggle4progress]

71. Scott wasn't in his right mind when first I heard of him, and nothing's changed since

[librechik]

74. Y'know--I bet there are a lot of black people in his prison

no wonder he's uncomfortable. He probably hates them almost as much as he hates women.

[dem mba]

76. airing of his grievances?

what is this, Festivus?

[AllyCat]

77. Oh how sad for him. Where did I put my violin?

Jerk. Hope it gets much, much worse for you.

[Kurovski]

78. Hey pumpkin...

yer a fuckin' hero, ain't ya? Enjoy it now, snookem's. ya lil Wyatt Erp popsicle stick, ya licked the "bad guy" good, now you can take your lickin' in kind.

[CoffeeCat]

79. Where did he think he was going...Club Med?

You murder someone, you go to prison.

Prison isn't fun. You're surronded by rapists, pedophiles and other
murderers, such as yourself.

Wait until his inmate friends get wind of his latest tantrum. Oh boy...

[okieinpain]

80. he just figured out that prison sucks, wow. I guest he's not liking

all the new praying partners and stuff.

[Touchdown]

82. Why doesn't he ask Jesus to break him out?

He did? Not yet? Good thing scome to those who wait. I'm sure Jesus will break him out... in 50 years.

[BrklynLiberal]

83. boo-f*ckin-hoo

You do the crime..you do the time...

If he was damn so self-righteous and convinced that he was on a "mission form god"..the he should be thrilled to do the time...
no matter how has to do it, or where he has to do it.

[laughingliberal]

90. True crusaders who go to prison for a cause don't whine about it

Guess that tells us where Scott falls on the scale. I'm so enjoying this story. Not only did he discredit the 'pro-life' movement by committing a senseless murder, he now discredits them by whining about not liking prison.

[BAPhill]

91. Too bad!

Proud cold blooded killer can't handle jail....toooo bad!

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

93. Bet he'll be for gay rights now. N/T

[TxVietVet]

95. I hope he meets up with Bubba

He wants out and wants to go home. :scared: They are treating him badly. :cry:

Where are all your conservanazi defenders? Maybe they could take up a collection to help you out, moron.

Rot in jail, you POS. :bounce:

[annabanana]

96. Ah.. Yet ANOTHER reason I don't support the death penalty!

I hope he lives to be 90.. in there.

[liberation]

98. I will not gloat about the suffering of another human being...

... but I will not waste my concern with someone who killed another human being in such cold blooded manner, esp. his level of premeditation is what I found utterly inhuman and disturbing.

The entitlement that led him to think he can simply write a petition to leave prison, because it is not of his liking, is rather appalling to be honest. It points that this murderer does not have any remorse whatsoever, because he has not even began to grasp the magnitude of his crime. In fact chances are he has such a personality disorder that he may see himself as the victim in all this.I am willing to wager he and the rest of his fundamentalist pals are, at a very basic level, people with very very very flawed personalities. Due to all sorts of mental disorders most likely.

Not that it excuses their actions, but we need to come with grasps as a society that the brain, like any other organ is prone to disease, I wonder how many lives and broken families could have been saved if people would have access to proper mental health care from the get go. It is also time for us to realize, that a lot of the inflammatory rhetoric being spewed freely by a lot of the religious extremists should not be tolerated. Period. Words have consequences. Freedom of expression ends where it causes people to lose their lives.

[CLANG]

99. I hope I'm not out of line, but...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[AnnieBW]

104. Don't do the crime

if you can't do the time, douchebag.