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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 09:59 PM
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Same Tired Old Story: The Political Dynamics of the Tea Party Movement
Edited on Sat Apr-17-10 10:57 PM by Time for change
About three years ago I posted an article on DU titled “The Five Pillars of George W. Bush’s Republican Party”. In that article I described the five pillars of the Republican Party as “Economic Royalists”, militarists, propagandists, crooks, and the gullible. The first four of these pillars, which are characterized by a great deal of overlap, apply mainly to the leaders of the Republican Party, while the last one (the gullible) applies to the rank and file.

I believe that the term “Economic Royalists” was first coined by Franklin Delano Roosevelt to refer to people who are not only wealthy, but who believe that it is their God-given right to have more wealth than other people, and that it is the main purpose of government to protect and enhance that God-given right. FDR explained this concept in his 1934 Democratic Convention speech, as part of his rationale for the New Deal, which lifted tens of millions of Americans out of poverty following the Great Depression. The following excerpt is representative of the spirit and content of the whole speech:

The privileged princes of these new economic dynasties, thirsting for power, reached out for control over Government itself. They created a new despotism and wrapped it in the robes of legal sanction. In its service new mercenaries sought to regiment the people, their labor, and their property. And as a result the average man once more confronts the problem that faced the Minute Man.

The other three pillars that characterize the Republican leaders are all related to this. The purpose of their militarism is to obtain the resources of foreign countries, expand their power, and shower wealth upon the military industrial complex. The purpose their propaganda is to hide their motives, thereby making their actions more palatable to their gullible voter base. And the purpose of the crooks is… well, that needs no explanation.

Though George W. Bush and the Republican Party were removed from power by the 2008 national elections, the same five pillars are very much in evidence today in the effort to revive their power. The Tea Party Movement is perhaps the most extreme manifestation of that effort.


Today’s Economic Royalists

Al Gore hit the nail on the head with his modern-day explanation of these dynamics in his book, “The Assault on Reason”, released about two years prior to the onset of the Tea Party movement. He describes “Economic Royalists” as those

who are primarily interested in eliminating as much of their own taxation as possible and removing all inconvenient regulatory obstacles. Their ideology – which they and Bush believe with almost religious fervor – is based on several key elements:

First, there is no such thing as “the public interest”; that phrase represents a dangerous fiction created as an excuse to impose unfair burdens on the wealthy and powerful.

Second, laws and regulations are also bad – except when they can be used on behalf of this group, which turns out to be often. It follows, therefore, that whenever laws must be enforced and regulations administered, it is important to assign those responsibilities to individuals who… reliably serve the narrow and specific interests of this small group…

What members of this coalition seem to spend much of their time and energy worrying about is the impact of government policy on the behavior of poor people. They are deeply concerned, for example, that government programs to provide health care, housing, social insurance, and other financial support will adversely affect work incentives….

Gore spoke a lot in his book about the hypocrisy of the radical right. He described the radical right (referring mostly to its leaders) as a “political faction disguised as a religious sect”. He said that they use the language of religion

to disguise the most radical effort in American history to take what belongs to the American people and give as much of it as possible to the already wealthy and privileged… Make no mistake: It is the president’s reactionary ideology, not his religious faith, that is the source of his troubling inflexibility…

Important and tragic results of the efforts of these people have been a wealth gap in our country that has expanded to levels unprecedented since the 19th Century, and a substantial increase in the poverty rate in our country.


The Tea Party Movement

The Tea Party Movement represents a continuation of these efforts by the Economic Royalists, except that the methods are a little different. Instead of religion, the Economic Royalists, in their inciting of the movement, appeal to what they claim to be the economic interests of the typical (white) American. And with a black Democratic President in office, they rely on the underlying racism and xenophobia that characterizes much of their base to ensure that virtually everything they say will be believed by them on faith, with little or no effort to evaluate the facts.

The onset of the movement is widely believed to date from February 2009 (though the term “Tea Party” was not yet coined at this time), with the so-called “Porkulus” protest directed against the Obama stimulus package. The word “porkulus”, coined by Rush Limbaugh, was meant to imply that the rationale for the protest was the pork in the stimulus package. In reality, the cause of the reaction against the stimulus package was similar to Economic Royalist reaction against any effort by government to help people in need: Social programs tend to lead to taxes on the wealthy. But by disguising this as a reaction against pork they influenced their radical right wing base to begin a protest movement.

Another primary component of the Tea Party movement was the reaction against the federal government bailout of banks and homeowners – that is, the part signed by President Obama, not the part signed the year before by George W. Bush. It should be mentioned that many liberals were also against this bailout. But unlike the Tea Party crowd, liberals were against the bank bailout component, but not the help given to homeowners. Indeed, most liberals felt that much more should have been done for distressed homeowners and less for the banks. But the Tea Partiers appeared to be at least equally against the help given to distressed homeowners – in line with their antipathy to “big government”.

Kate Zernike, in a New York Times article, describes the general attitudes of Tea Partiers that purportedly explain their targets:

Asked what they are angry about, Tea Party supporters offered three main concerns: the recent health care overhaul, government spending, and a feeling that their opinions are not represented in Washington. When talking about the Tea Party movement, the largest number of respondents said that the goal should be reducing the size of government, more than cutting the budget deficit, or lowering taxes.

A poll undertaken by the Christopher Parker at the University of Washington Institute for the Study of Ethnicity, Race and Sexuality, sheds some light on the anti-civil rights and anti-equal opportunity mind set of supporters of the Tea Party movement. That poll showed that Tea Party supporters are much more accepting of U.S government indefinite detention without trial (only 54% are against that, compared to 90% of Tea Party opponents), warrantless phone tapping by government (33% of Tea Party supporters against, compared to 72% of Tea Party opponents), and racial profiling (33% of Tea Party supporters against, compared to 74% of Tea Party opponents.) The same poll showed that only 23% of Tea Party supporters believe that “We don’t give everyone an equal chance in this country”, compared to 72% of Tea Party opponents.


The role of racism, xenophobia and homophobia

As I noted above, the right wing elites rely on intolerance against their fellow human beings to divide and conquer and ensure that their highly gullible base will believe almost everything they say without much if any effort to check out the facts for themselves. Evidence of this intolerance can be seen from two more polls conducted by Christopher Parker, in which various attitudes were compared between those who “strongly approve” of the Tea Party Movement vs. those who “strongly disapprove” of it. Some examples from these polls are as follows:

Indirect measures of racism against black people
Irish, Italian, Jewish and many other minorities overcame prejudice and worked their way up. Blacks should do the same (strongly agree).
Tea Party supporters: 68%
Tea Party opponents: 35%

Generations of slavery and discrimination have created conditions that make it difficult for blacks to work their way out of the lower class (strongly disagree):
Tea Party supporters: 43%
Tea Party opponents: 20%

It’s really a matter of some people not trying hard enough; if blacks would only try harder they could be just as well off as whites (strongly agree):
Tea Party supporters: 42%
Tea Party opponents: 18%

Blacks are hard-working (agree):
Tea Party supporters: 35%
Tea Party opponents: 55%

Indirect measures of xenophobia and homophobia
All undocumented immigrants in the U.S. should be deported immediately (agree):
Tea Party supporters: 45%
Tea Party opponents: 11%

Gay and lesbian couples should be allowed to adopt children (agree):
Tea Party supporters: 36%
Tea Party opponents: 87%

Gay and lesbian couples should be allowed to get married with equal rights (agree):
Tea Party supporters: 17%
Tea Party opponents: 52%

Thus it is that on all these indirect measures of tolerance towards their fellow humans, about twice the percent Tea Party supporters as Tea Party opponents were indicated to be intolerant.

Attitudes towards President Obama
The racist attitudes translate into absurdly deviant views that the Tea Party opponents hold towards President Obama, as described in Kate Zernike article:

Nearly 9 in 10 disapprove of the job Mr. Obama is doing overall, and about the same percentage fault his handling on the specifics, too: health care, the economy, and the federal budget deficit. More than 8 in 10 hold an unfavorable view of him personally, and 92 percent believe he is moving the country toward socialism – an opinion shared by about half the general public. Tea Party supporters are also more likely than most Americans to believe, mistakenly, that the president has increased taxes for most Americans.

Zernike also provides this typical quote from a Tea Party Supporter:

He’s a socialist. And to tell you the truth I think he’s a Muslim and trying to head us in that direction, I don’t care what he says. He’s been in office over a year and can’t find a church to go to. That doesn’t say much for him.”

Parker’s poll demonstrates additional evidence on this subject. Only 38% of Tea Party supporters think that President Obama is knowledgeable, only 37% think he’s intelligent, and only 32% think he’s moral, compared to 79%, 74%, and 86%, respectively, of Tea Party opponents.


Efforts by the right wing elite to support and make the Tea Party movement appear main stream

Right wing elites, today’s Economic Royalists, have provided much rhetorical and other support for the movement. Indeed, it appears clear that these right wing elites are the driving force behind the movement. By making it appear to be main stream, they hope to add to its credibility and thereby convince more Americans to adopt its beliefs and attitudes.

Media Matters has described the role of FOX News, for example, in supporting the Tea Party movement while attempting to make it seem main stream:

Fox News has frequently aired segments encouraging viewers to get involved with "tea party" protests across the country, which the channel has described as primarily a response to President Obama's fiscal policies. Specifically, Fox News has in dozens of instances provided attendance and organizing information for future protests, such as protest dates, locations and website URLs. Fox News websites have also posted information and publicity material for protests…

Right Wing elite support for the movement can also be seen in the way that right wing rags like the American Spectator characterize the movement:

They recognize that the more resources the government takes out of the private sector, through taxes, borrowing and spending, the less freedom that average working people have left for the pursuit of happiness. Taxes as a percent of GDP, government spending as a percent of GDP, should be taken as reverse indicators of economic freedom…. In other words, the more the government takes your money to spend on what it wants, the less freedom you have to choose to spend…

Heather Horn wrote a recent article titled “Tea Partiers Not Fringe, Not Racist, Not Republican?”, in which she tried to make the movement appear main stream. Horn quotes Ed Morrissey in a portion of her article titled “Myth of Tea Partiers as Racist, Reactionary Debunked!” Morrissey, quoting a Gallup Poll, says:

Gallup’s demos of the Tea Party look very close to that of the overall American demos on ethnicity ... The educational background of Tea Party followers almost exactly matches that of the general population ... Low-income earners make up 19% of the Tea Party, as compared to 25% of the general population, and those making more than $50K are 55% of the Tea Party rather than the 50% of the general population, but that’s not much of a difference.

What the Gallup poll showed in reality was merely that Tea Partiers were very similar to the U.S. general population with respect to age, income and education. Morrissey does not misquote the Gallup poll in that regard. But his and Horn’s interpretation of that poll to conclude that therefore the poll debunks the idea that Tea Partiers tend to be racist is absurd. The Gallup poll did not look at attitudes on race. How to get from the fact that Tea Partiers are similar to the general population in income, education and age, to conclude that that debunks the belief that Tea Partiers are racist is not explained.


The gullibility of Tea Partiers

I’ve already noted their absurd beliefs about President Obama, including their belief that he increased taxes on most Americans, when in reality a substantial tax decrease was a part of his stimulus bill that the Tea Partiers have so strenuously protested against. In other words, they don’t even understand the most basic facts relating to what they think they’re protesting against. Zernike’s article delves further into the self-contradiction and extreme gullibility that characterizes so much of the movement:

Nearly three quarters said they would prefer smaller government even if it means spending on domestic programs would be cut. But in follow up interviews, people said they did not want to cut Medicare or Social Security – the biggest domestic programs – suggesting instead a focus on “waste.” …

Others defended being on Social Security while fighting big government by saying they had paid into the system, so deserved the benefits. Others could not explain the contradiction.

“I guess I want smaller government and my Social Security,” said Jodine White, 62, of Rocklin, Calif. “I didn’t look at it from the perspective of losing things I need. I think I’ve changed my mind.”

Well, at least one Tea Partier had enough common sense to see the light when it shined right in her face.


Summation of the Tea Party movement

Thus it is that the same right wing elites in our country who supported all the obscenities of the Bush administration have instigated an angry protest movement among their highly gullible followers to resist every effort of the Obama administration and the Democratic Congress to help the American people out of their current economic plight.

No lie goes unused in the service of their cause. They lead their followers to believe that taxes have been raised when in fact they have been lowered. They lead them to believe that Democratic efforts to reign in the power of big banks are in fact designed to give the banks more power. And they lead them to believe that the act of government making health insurance affordable to those who lack it is a form of tyranny.

The racism and extreme gullibility of the right wing base greatly facilitates the task of the Economic Royalists of the right wing elite to fool them and to fuel their anger. The racism that characterizes much of the movement facilitates the belief that President Obama is the devil incarnate, and that it is therefore the duty of patriotic Americans to resist everything he tries to do, no matter what it is.

There is nothing new in this movement, except that it is facilitated and intensified by virtue of the fact that we elected a black president. Other than that, it is the same tired old story of economic elites manipulating the masses to suit their own purposes.
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 10:03 PM
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1. excellent!
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 03:28 AM
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4. Thank you
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 10:06 PM
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2. K/R Wow.. excellent article. It sums up the Tea-Publicans and their history..
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 01:38 PM
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14. Thank you
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-10 11:09 PM
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3. Isn't it appropriate that 'porkulus' was coined by Limpballs?
If anybody knows anything about 'pork' it's that pig. (Apologies to pigs)
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 03:02 PM
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15. It's a terrible shame that a psychopthic liar like him is able to reach so many people with his lies
His access to the airways gives him credibility in the eyes of a lot of people.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 06:17 AM
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5. The Teahadists
support the concept of privatizing gain and socializing losses. They just have no idea that they're supporting the forces that use them as cannon fodder.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:37 AM
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6. The Royals
Human history is rife with those more than willing to subject themselves to the royals. As if the royals were some how their betters!

America was, at one time, a land of the free and a home to the brave. It still harbors some brave and a few free, but for the most part is occupied by economic slaves who fearfully bow before their owners.

And to some people their new owner is a black man. I almost feel sorry for them. Certainly I do feel sorry for those of us who have to live amongst the baggers.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 09:38 PM
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22. Yeah, that is certainly part of the dynamic
Some of them just can't stand the thought of a black man being president. Hence, the Birther movement.
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 09:38 AM
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7. The Truth: the new Tea Party definition
Truth can now be defined as what you can persuade people to accept as reality, and not what the facts would bear out. Once the "truth" is established, no evidence to the contrary is necessary or even considered.

BTW, Your article hits the nail squarely on the head!
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 06:59 PM
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18. It's reminiscent of the quote by a senior Bush administration official:
"We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality"

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html

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tilsammans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 10:02 AM
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8. K&R-ed and bookmarked!
Spot on! :kick:
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 10:50 AM
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9. bottom 80% americans only hold 7% of the nations Wealth.. Socialism looks pretty good.>link>
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 11:20 AM by sam sarrha

http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

actually Socialism looks pretty good after see'n this.. >>

this is really what is taking over the GOP in my opinion...
http://doggo.tripod.com/doggchrisdomin.html
"snip...Leo Strauss was born in 1899 and died in 1973. ... He is most famous for resuscitating Machiavelli and introducing his principles as the guiding philosophy of the neo-conservative movement. ... More than any other man, Strauss breathed upon conservatism, inspiring it to rise from its atrophied condition and its natural dislike of change and to embrace an unbounded new political ideology that rides on the back of a revolutionary steed, hailing even radical change; hence the name Neo-Conservatives.

Significantly, Dominionism is a form of Social Darwinism.<48> It inherently includes the religious belief that wealth-power is a sign of God’s election. That is, out of the masses of people and the multitude of nations, wealth, in and of itself, is thought to indicate God’s approval on men and nations whereas poverty and sickness reflect God’s disapproval.

(It was not until I read this article that I realized that this is a fundamental tenet of Dominionists.

Worldly wealth and power are signs of God's favor -- to attempt to limit or decrease one's wealth and power is to disrespect God.

On the contrary, God's elect on Earth are called upon to increase their wealth and power.

It is not sufficient for a man to be a millionaire, or for a country to have sovereignty within its borders -- a man must strive to increase his wealth as much as possible, and a Dominionist government's behavior toward its neighbors must be "invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity".

Furthermore, any attempt to decrease a person's or a country's wealth and power -- to take from the rich to give to the poor, to reduce military spending and power -- is a direct attack on God.)

If “Secular Humanists are the greatest threat to Christianity the world has ever known,” as theologian Francis Schaeffer claimed, then who are the Humanists? According to Dominionists, humanists are the folks who allow or encourage licentious behavior in America. They are the undisciplined revelers.

Put all the enemies of the Dominionists together, boil them down to liquid and bake them into the one single most highly derided and contaminated individual known to man, and you will have before you an image of the quintessential “liberal” -- one of those folks who wants to give liberally to the poor and needy -- who desires the welfare and happiness of all Americans -- who insists on safety regulations for your protection and who desires the preservation of your values -- those damnable people are the folks that must be reduced to powerlessness -- or worse: extinction.

What would a “reconstructed” America look like under the Dominionists? K.L. Gentry, a Dominionist himself, suggests the following “elements of a theonomic approach to civic order,” which I strongly suggest should be compared to the Texas GOP platform of 2002, which reveals that we are not just talking about imaginary ideas but some things are already proposed on Republican agendas.<60> Dominionism’s concept of government according to Gentry is as follows:

“1. It obligates government to maintain just monetary policies ... fiat money, fractional reserve banking, and deficit spending.

“2. It provides a moral basis for elective government officials. ...

“3. It forbids undue, abusive taxation of the rich. ...

“4. It calls for the abolishing of the prison system and establishing a system of just restitution. *...

“5. A theonomic approach also forbids the release, pardoning, and paroling of murderers by requiring their execution. ...

“6. It forbids industrial pollution that destroys the value of property. ...

“7. It punishes malicious, frivolous malpractice suits. ...

“8. It forbids abortion rights. ... Abortion is not only a sin, but a crime, and, indeed, a capital crime.”<61>
. . .

* Gary North describes the ‘just restitution’ system of the bible, which happens to reinstitute slavery,
like this:


“At the other end of the curve, the poor man who steals is eventually caught and sold into bondage under a successful person. His victim receives payment; he receives training; his buyer receives a stream of labor services. If the servant is successful and buys his way out of bondage, he re-enters society as a disciplined man, and presumably a self-disciplined man. He begins to accumulate wealth...snip”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Strauss
"snip...Strauss wrote that Friedrich Nietzsche was the first philosopher to properly understand relativism, an idea grounded in a general acceptance of Hegelian historicism. Heidegger, in Strauss' view, sanitized and politicized Nietzsche, whereas Nietzsche believed "our own principles, including the belief in progress, will become as relative as all earlier principles had shown themselves to be" and "the only way out seems to be...that one voluntarily choose life-giving delusion instead of deadly truth, that one fabricate a myth".<4> Heidegger believed that the tragic nihilism of Nietzsche was a "myth" guided by a defective Western conception of Being that Heidegger traced to Plato. In his published correspondence with Alexandre Kojève, Strauss wrote that Hegel was correct when he postulated that an end of history implies an end to philosophy as understood by classical political philosophy..snip"

--------------Friedrich Nietzsche ...a footnote is necessary here, he suffered from Syphilis, his reputed best works were written in the final stages of of the disease, and can only be considered hallucinations/delusions of a diseased ravaged brain. the disease was rampant until the middle 40's.. there is a great book .. POX, by deborah hayden, http://www.amazon.com/Pox-Genius-Madness-Mysteries-Syphilis/dp/0465028829/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1271606839&sr=1-1 that is a definite must read for anyone who is in the least bit interested in history.. Syphilis sculpted the world we live in, starting right after Columbus returned from the new world. fascinating story.

as an example, Van Gogh also suffered from Syphilis.. his paintings are a photograph of his visual hallucinations, many early composers were writing down auditory hallucinations.. "the singing of Angels.." in the Victorian area it is said 50% of all men had Syphillis in England.

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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:12 AM
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11. unfettered capitalism = everything the bible is against
and I no longer attend church.. :kick: :wtf:
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 04:50 PM
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16. And it's gotten a lot worse since the onset of Reagan's presidency
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 10:59 AM
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10. The religious angle has been a failure for the Republicans.
They have been shown to be hypocrites, and after they were thwarted in the complete take-over of the party by the actual monied interest owners of that party, they needed a new 'grass-roots' movement to be the foot-soldiers in their war against the rest of us.


K&R.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:58 AM
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12. It just occurred to me that if these first 4 rules are strictly applied then
our Founding Fathers should have been tried for treason against the wealthier overlords from England?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:18 PM
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13. K&R and bookmarked
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 05:27 PM
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17. K&R ! //nt
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 07:07 PM
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19. The gunbaggers in a nutshell. Good job. nt
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Grand Taurean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 07:14 PM
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20. k/r
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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:29 PM
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21. An anti-government rally is not a "tea party." - n/t
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:04 PM
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23. No mention of Authoritarianism?
That is the defining character of both the bully leaders and clueless or willing followers. Synergistically, the Authoritarian leaders and followers create the absurd belief system and resulting acts.
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 11:35 PM
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24. That's odd...
35% of Tea Partiers disagree that blacks should just "cowboy up" and overcome prejudice; 20% agree that blacks have it harder because of past slavery and discrimination; 18% disagree that blacks just need to "try harder;" 55% think blacks are hard-working; 11% disagree with the idea of deporting all undocumented immigrants; 36% would allow gay and lesbian couples to adopt; and 17% would allow gay and lesbian couples to get married.

What do these people do at the rallies?
Do you think these "minority" tea party opinions are held by many of the same tea partiers?

There must be a lot of tea partiers who are in it simply for the idea that their taxes are too high

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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 11:41 AM
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26. I think that not all Teapartiers are racist or intolerant
Edited on Wed Apr-21-10 11:42 AM by Time for change
Some of them just think their taxes are too high, or adhere to other aspects of the movement. Some of their views are similar to ours -- such as being against the big banker bailout. Keep in mind also that the survey doesn't just apply to those who attend rallies -- it applies to anyone who says on the survey that they agree with the movement. The vast majority of them (whether or not they actually attend rallies) are just plain ignorant and gullible.

I also believe that the degree of racism and intolerance are higher than what the indicate -- people filling out surveys generally don't want to appear as racist, so they may fudge some of their answers to make themselves appear less so.
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 06:04 PM
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27. Then I can easily imagine that Tea Partiers...
... are not lock-step the way they seem to be portrayed in the media. A pretty broad-based, not-very-coalesced group...?

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MinM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 08:27 AM
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25. Where Was Tea Party During Bush Administration?
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 06:27 PM
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28. Like the old Confederacy: rich white dudes having poor folk do their fighting for them...
As in, "You penniless farm boys go out and fight those damn Yankees, while we rich fellows remain safely at the mansion to tend to important business -- buying more slaves."

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