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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 07:20 PM
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OMG they are twisted...Rudy said the iranians in two minutes looked into reagans eyes
and released the hostages




no mention of the illegal weapons or such
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 07:21 PM
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1. Reagan had NADA to do with the hostages being released.
That's to Carter's credit. 100%.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 07:22 PM
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2. I know that
jut repeating the lies
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 07:22 PM
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4. Bush 41 had EVERYTHING to do with the timing of hostage release.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 07:23 PM
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7. And Bill Casey. eom
Edited on Thu May-03-07 07:24 PM by DURHAM D
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 07:23 PM
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6. Raygun had his group work a deal that the hostages wouldn't
Edited on Thu May-03-07 07:33 PM by merh
be released until he took office, thus the release on his inauguration day.

fucktards don't want to hook their horses to that wagon, do they? :evilgrin:



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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 07:27 PM
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10. NOW I hope people REALIZE why it is so important to full release all the documents and open
the books on BushInc.....this constant revisionism is about to get into this nation's HISTORY BOOKS because SOME Dems WON'T DO THEIR JOB when given the opportunity to do so.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 07:31 PM
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12. I agree 100%
:thumbsup:

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 07:33 PM
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15. Thanks, merh...I know it can get boring, but it really is THAT important.
This liefest going on today would NOT be happening if those books had been opened when Democrats had the greatest access and opportunity to do so.

And THAT is why I post this so repetitively.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 07:37 PM
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16. The destruction to our nation and the deaths to our citizens
and the death all over the world because of our leaders crimes wouldn't have happened if the democrats who had power had done their jobs and not turned the other check. Governing does not equal compromise.

I'm in your camp and will cheer you along each time you post on this topic (when I see it that is :P )

:patriot:

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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 07:31 PM
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13. Yep.
:hi:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 07:32 PM
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14. ..
:hi:

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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 07:22 PM
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3. Daddy Bush negotiated the arms deal. Reagan was the front "man"...
Edited on Thu May-03-07 07:22 PM by AX10
the puppet that the conservatives used to thrust their evil agenda upon America.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 10:14 AM
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17. Exactly - even Reagan had not much choice but to go along with Poppy Bush's
machinations.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 07:23 PM
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5. I heard that too, what a crock....Jimmy Carter negotiated that..
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 07:24 PM
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8. Reagan- Bush had the hostages KEPT LONGER as part of their deal with Iran
Edited on Thu May-03-07 07:24 PM by blm
Lawrence Walsh wanted to pursue the evidence that was there, as it came out in late 1992, but unfortunately, Clinton wasn't interested in pursuing the outstanding matters in IranContra.


http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

Democrats, the Truth Still Matters!
By Robert Parry
(First Posted May 11, 2006)

Editor's Note: With the Democratic victories in the House and Senate, there is finally the opportunity to demand answers from the Bush administration about important questions, ranging from Dick Cheney's secret energy policies to George W. Bush's Iraq War deceptions. But the Democrats are sure to be tempted to put the goal of "bipartisanship" ahead of the imperative for truth.

Democrats, being Democrats, always want to put governance, such as enacting legislation and building coalitions, ahead of oversight, which often involves confrontation and hard feelings. Democrats have a difficult time understanding why facts about past events matter when there are problems in the present and challenges in the future.

Given that proclivity, we are re-posting a story from last May that examined why President Bill Clinton and the last Democratic congressional majority (in 1993-94) shied away from a fight over key historical scandals from the Reagan-Bush-I years -- and the high price the Democrats paid for that decision:

My book, Secrecy & Privilege, opens with a scene in spring 1994 when a guest at a White House social event asks Bill Clinton why his administration didn’t pursue unresolved scandals from the Reagan-Bush era, such as the Iraqgate secret support for Saddam Hussein’s government and clandestine arms shipments to Iran.

Clinton responds to the questions from the guest, documentary filmmaker Stuart Sender, by saying, in effect, that those historical questions had to take a back seat to Clinton’s domestic agenda and his desire for greater bipartisanship with the Republicans.

Clinton “didn’t feel that it was a good idea to pursue these investigations because he was going to have to work with these people,” Sender told me in an interview. “He was going to try to work with these guys, compromise, build working relationships.”

Clinton’s relatively low regard for the value of truth and accountability is relevant again today because other centrist Democrats are urging their party to give George W. Bush’s administration a similar pass if the Democrats win one or both houses of Congress.

Reporting about a booklet issued by the Progressive Policy Institute, a think tank of the Democratic Leadership Council, the Washington Post wrote, “these centrist Democrats … warned against calls to launch investigations into past administration decisions if Democrats gain control of the House or Senate in the November elections.”

These Democrats also called on the party to reject its “non-interventionist left” wing, which opposed the Iraq War and which wants Bush held accountable for the deceptions that surrounded it.

“Many of us are disturbed by the calls for investigations or even impeachment as the defining vision for our party for what we would do if we get back into office,” said pollster Jeremy Rosner, calling such an approach backward-looking.

Yet, before Democrats endorse the DLC’s don’t-look-back advice, they might want to examine the consequences of Clinton’s decision in 1993-94 to help the Republicans sweep the Reagan-Bush scandals under the rug. Most of what Clinton hoped for – bipartisanship and support for his domestic policies – never materialized.

‘Politicized’ CIA

After winning Election 1992, Clinton also rebuffed appeals from members of the U.S. intelligence community to reverse the Reagan-Bush “politicization” of the CIA’s analytical division by rebuilding the ethos of objective analysis even when it goes against a President’s desires.

Instead, in another accommodating gesture, Clinton gave the CIA director’s job to right-wing Democrat, James Woolsey, who had close ties to the Reagan-Bush administration and especially to its neoconservatives.
>>>>>

Parry allows DU to repost the article in its entirety, but, I'll be mindful of bandwidth. The entire article is a must read to understand the importance of accountability and prosecuting crimes of office. Democracy demands it and needs it to continue in any healthy form.
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 07:27 PM
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9. Just like in the B Western movies Reagan used to play in.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 07:30 PM
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11. I knew that was a pile of shit when the Cons started pushing that theory a week after the release!
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