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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 09:26 AM
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Breaking...Former L.A. Police Chief Gates Has Died
Edited on Fri Apr-16-10 09:26 AM by rsmith6621


...PER MSNBC.

....no information/link yet...
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 09:27 AM
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1. _
:nopity:

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Flaneur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 09:29 AM
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2. The man who brought us paramilitary policing (SWAT).
My mom said if you can't say something good...so I have nothing to say.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 09:49 AM
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4. And D.A.R.E.
Who could forget that marvelous program that brought an end to drug use? :silly:
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 10:26 AM
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10. Gates was an interesting mix
He tried to be innovative but many of his initiatives failed. His verbal malaprops were worse than Bush's. He modernized the LAPD and made it credible. However, there is was a lot of inertia he could not over come, and the national cop culture is beyond any one chiefs control. All in all I think he made things better, he wasn't stellar, but things could have been so much worse.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 10:36 AM
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12. Or you could take a page out of Bette Davis' book...
...when she heard that Joan Crawford had died: "My mother said to only speak good of the dead. Joan Crawford has died. Good."

:-)
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 09:29 AM
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3. I hope his form of policing might pass into the night with him
Kind thoughts for his family...
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 09:50 AM
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5. You know what they say about saying something nice
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 09:51 AM
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6. Good riddance.
---> pissing on his grave icon goes here <---
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 09:55 AM
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7. I agree that it's best not to say anything at all--especially when it involves such a man as he.
But, I will say that a lot of folks have a long memory of his "legacy" in the same vein as Jesse Helms, Strom Thurmond, George Wallace and Jerry Falwell.

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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 09:57 AM
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8. The man who brought us the chock hold.
May he rest in peace.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 10:23 AM
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9. False as to fact
The carotid holds have been around for centuries. They have been a basic part of judo for many years
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 10:28 AM
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11. Perhaps I should have said he brought a centruies old judo hold
to the LAPD. Better?
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 10:36 AM
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13. According to peope I know who were in the department at the time, it was an attempt to use less
injurious methods for restraining people. Clearly it failed in operational use.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 10:45 AM
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14. That's what they say about tasers now.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 12:52 PM
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15. Indeed, well intended concept that is failing in operational employment
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