Terrorist attack on U.S. predicted-45,000 persons of interest caught trying to cross the U.S.-Mexico

[The Straight Story]

Terrorist attack on U.S. predicted


GONZALES — Louisiana Army National Guard Maj. Gen. Hunt Downer Jr. predicted Thursday another terrorist attack will occur in the United States, saying “it’s just a question of when and where.”

“I don’t want to be an alarmist, but I live it,” said Downer, who assists the Louisiana Army National Guard adjutant general, Maj. Gen. Bennett C. Landreneau, with matters pertaining to the Governor’s Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness.“Make no bones about. I don’t care what you hear. There will be another attack in this country. It’s just a question of when and where,” he said.

Downer, a former Democratic Houma state representative and Speaker of the House and later Republican candidate for governor in 2003, said there are those “who are hellbent on killing us.”

Downer added that he sees reports that would scare “the living daylights of you.”

He said that during a presentation he attended last week, he learned that 45,000 persons of interest caught trying to cross the U.S.-Mexico border last year are also “non-Mexican nationals.”

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[Ozymanithrax]

1. What a Downer...

Freedom is dangerous. Get a thrill, live with danger and quit the Brown shirt KKK crap about the awful foreign nationals coming over our borders. The Hutaree were American to the core, and rotten the core.

[Xipe Totec]

2. I don’t want to be an alarmist...

:eyes:

non-Mexican nationals? Would that include Central and South Americans?

How do we leap from non-Mexican nationals to the conclusion that these are terrorists?

[arcadian]

3. Exactly

He says non-Mexiacn national knowing full well that most uneducated idiots will make the leap to "aye-rabs".

[Go2Peace]

15. and you don't think people from countries other than South America use that border?

Have you ever lived in a second world country? Why would you not want the problem fixed? Just because the Republicans take a hard line does not mean there is not a serious problem. If I were going to try and get in, now that immigration takes fingerprints, the best way to do it is to pay off someone in Mexico and then enter through the southern border.

Just because that border is also used by people who are looking to make a better life does not mean we don't have a serious security concern with the current situation.

Some folks let their political ideology get in the way of common sense, there is a serious problem. One can argue about the solutions, but the guy quoted here is absolutely right.

[Xipe Totec]

22. Get a grip

If you want to have an honest debate about illegal immigration then let's do that, but don't confabulate this issue into full blown terrorist hysteria.

Terrorist bent on harming the US have a better chance of reaching the US alive by entering through Canada or sailing a boat onto the Oregon coastline than they have of transiting through Mexico where they would stick out like sore thumbs.

Don't think that just because they happen to be brown that they can disguise themselves as Mexicans.

[Go2Peace]

25. You seem fixated on the color of people's skin

I am simply talking border policy. I know that some like to pidgeon people or think that everyone that has a different opinion must be racist, but that is not the case with my discussion.

I am talking very honestly. And no, I don't hyperventilate about "terrorism". I am very active in understanding that fully living life means you take chances, that is why I travel to places that many Americans are afraid to go. I don't live in fear like most here. So you can relax and consider that my opinions may actually be based on what I think are rational approaches.

[peacetalksforall]

6. Right you are. When I write about the hate Republicans hold for these people and Moslems, I qualify

my reference - example - if I write 'their hate for Moslems and 'Mexicans', I add something like this - (Mexicans are the only ones mentioned because these people don't know their geography and wouldn't know how to spell Nicaragua or El Salvador even if they were going to try to be accurate). 'Mexican' - is more hateful for them, why scatter their hate for our North American neighbors by diluting it with Central and South Americans. (Sarcasm against Republican haters intended.)

Reminds me of the press release from the Pentagon about the arrival of military and the setting up of new bases in Paraguay - the official reason given was because of reports of terrorists crossing the borders from Brazil and Argentina. Of course, they were implying Arab/Moslem terrorists which fit the time period. The truth was that they had a willing regime in Paraguay, they had to protect the Moon homes and land, the water, and invade Bolivia to take out Morales and take away the gas and minerals. The truth was that Rumsfeld closed bases here with the intent to establish as many foreign bases as possible to fit their division of the world by Commands. And, of course, closing the bases here meant future prisons/private prisons instead of bases.

Guatamalans coming here to slaughter us? Hondurians joining with them? Give us a break? Moslems coming in addition to Mexicans? A per cent of 45,000? I'm sure we would have heard about it before this.

I thought all Arab/Moslem terrorists came through Canada and Los Angeles or direct. by arrangements through PNAC?

[Go2Peace]

16. Once immigration started taking fingerprints the borders gained significance

Let's discuss this rather than getting caught in the emotions and anger against Republicans (who are scum) can we?

Like you I understand that much of the "Al-Qaida" threat was trumped up and somewhat put into place by our policies. But NOW, because of our approach (IRAQ anyone?), and because there indeed has been a huge rise in fundamentalism (many kinds) throughout the world, the number of people from other countries that truly hate us passionately has risen DRAMATICALLY.

There is now a much LARGER, and much more serious threat than there was in 2001. And we have essentially made what was a semi-manufactured threat, into a real genuine threat. There are now crazies propagating throughout the world in many different forms. Hatred of Americans is a sport and quite different than it was 10 years ago. There is a very real threat.

[peacetalksforall]

17. I don't see how you could interpret what I said to play down hatred against us. I am one who

has used is seriously worried about what's in store for us and can only hope and pray that those who hate don't think that all of us are like the ones who ordered the invasions, massacres, and torture, plus lies and theft and their cherring supporters.

If there is an general attack on us and not the perpetrators and supporters we are the collateral damage just like their innocents were and are.

Perhaps we were given a little extra time because of the election of Obama. Prosecuting with integrity against our own would be the best preventive. If we don't do it, we deserve the hate for what we've done in the name of hate and greed called a war for propaganda power.

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[backscatter712]

10. Ding ding ding!

Contrary to popular belief, undocumented immigration is not limited to Mexicans.

Of course, this tool wants to lead you to belief that Al Qaeda's slipping through our nets willy-nilly, which has no basis in fact.

[Go2Peace]

14. You honestly think that when 500k people are able to come in through the back doors

that does not present a security issue (that figure is YEARLY)?

Come on. We can find solutions to the political components but let's not let the emotional component override common sense?

[FirstLight]

4. *in* this country... how about FROM our own countrymen!

Honestly, I am more concerned with the wingnuts marching on DC than this.

[Go2Peace]

5. The fact is that an uncontrolled border is a serious issue

I don't get that people cannot understand that.

[speedcat]

9. are you honestly calling our border "uncontrolled"

LOL

[Go2Peace]

11. 500 thousand illegally enter a year. That sounds "controlled" to you?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[speedcat]

12. just you try it - once - then come back here

and tell us how uncontrolled the border really is

[frustrated_lefty]

8. I don't get the derision

I don't get why this is news to begin with, but there it is.

Given that it is somehow in the news, it sounds like this guy is doing his job. He's not saying "let's go kill us some Ay-rabs." He's just making an assessment. Do the numbers. If 45,000 non-Mexican nationals are busted trying to ILLEGALLY cross the border, how many does it take to blow up your town's convention center? As a guess, it's fewer than it takes to get to the center of a tootsie-roll pop. Part of his job is to be aware of potential threats.

If he just blew this off and something did happen, people here would throw a fit over government failure to recognize potential threats.

At least give the guy some credit for being informed and trying to do his job.

[Go2Peace]

13. But don't you know, it's not politically correct to think this through

Some people are very close to anarchists in their approach to illegal immigration.

[peacetalksforall]

20. Why don't you just spell out what your position is instead of deriding us

who criticize the scare factor in your writing - who are you with on this issue? The vigilantes, the Republicans? I don't get where you're going with all your answers.

We are being taught to hate Moslems/Arabs and 'Mexicans'. Deny it.

Perhpas you are in the construction business and in line to build that wall?

What about Canada? It would seem that the Mexican border is targeted because of the passionate desire to join family, to make some money to send home, AND BECAUSE BUSINESS MEN AND WOMEN STILL WANT CHEAP hard working, ethical LABORERS.

[Go2Peace]

23. None of the above.

You're suspicious nature on this is not serving you well. The only thing I can be accused of is not taking the emotional/political "left vs right" stand. But I would argue that I am more representative of the majority in the democratic party.

I am very liberal (in fact if you look at my past post you will see I am quite to the left here), but I just don't follow every supposedly "liberal" idea just to follow it. Having 500k people enter the country undocumented every year is simply unsustainable.

While the Bush administration stoked up a lot of false fear, I believe in the process we have actually created some very serious world conditions that will present us with serious threats. The banking crises has exploded worldwide awareness of our "tinkering" that our companies and institutions do (supposedly on our behalf).

I am not sure how many Americans understand how much the world has changed in the last 10 years. America is growing enemies by leaps and bounds and we have some challenges there, and in the interim I agree with the President that we cannot afford to reward the continued influx of undocumented persons in the country.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

18. Eeek!! Brown Bogeymen and Terra!

[sabrina 1]

19. If this is true, why is the military on the other side of the globe?

Seems to me that the way to protect this country would be to have all the resources and money right here in this country.

If this alarmist report is meant to get support for the illegal wars we are engaged in, killing people who have never threatened this country, I think it will do the opposite.

There have always been terrorist threats to this and every other country. Most other countries deal with them by using their defense resources at home.

Going back to when we started interfering in the ME there have have been threats. There are lists of the major attacks that were stopped during the Clinton administration, eg.

But invading their countries has probably increased these threats so it wouldn't be a surprise if they have increased over the past decade. Stupid, dangerous foreign policies tend to do that.

[Go2Peace]

24. Good question. Maybe we are stuck in old thinking?

We would be far better off if we reduced our military staff around the world and replaced them with diplomatically related positions. But like that will happen?

[malaise]

21. Is he meeting with Cheney? n/t

[rucky]

26. Louisiana

is not on the border.

[DCKit]

27. OGM, Al Qaeda's done rowed its fleet of canoes to Mexico!

We gotta hold the line at Cancun.