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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 05:22 PM
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Bush-ordered wiretaps illegal, judge says
Bush-ordered wiretaps illegal, judge says
Bob Egelko, Chronicle Staff Writer

Wednesday, March 31, 2010


(03-31) 13:42 PDT SAN FRANCISCO -- The Bush administration wiretapped a U.S.-based Islamic charity under an illegal surveillance program that was not authorized by Congress or the courts, a federal judge in San Francisco ruled today.

The ruling by Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker marked the first time that a court has found that the government illegally wiretapped an individual or organization since President George W. Bush authorized warrantless wiretapping of suspected foreign terrorists in 2001.

The government inadvertently sent a classified document in 2004 to the Al-Haramain Islamic Foundation, reportedly showing that two of its lawyers had been wiretapped. Several months after the surveillance began, the government classified Al-Haramain as a terrorist organization, a description its leaders called false.

The now-defunct charity, which was headquartered in Oregon, returned the document at the government's request and could not use it as evidence in a lawsuit it filed over the wiretapping. But Walker said today that Al-Haramain had established, through public statements by officials and nonclassified evidence, that the government had intercepted its calls without obtaining the court warrant required by a 1978 law.


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/03/31/BANU1CNUF6.DTL&tsp=1#ixzz0jnNkpYBj



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Aaria Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 05:24 PM
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1. bet this doesn't make the nightly news.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 05:29 PM
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6. and if it does, it'll be as "traitor judge coddles people who want to cut our heads off!" nt
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Mike K Donating Member (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 05:37 PM
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7. Worse, Holder just nullified the lawsuit.
The Bush Administration's illegal wiretapping was strongly condemned by candidate Obama, but this action by his administration defends the practice.

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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 05:41 PM
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9. The Justice Department declined to say whether it would appeal today's ruling
snip...

The Justice Department declined to say whether it would appeal today's ruling and instead issued a statement focusing on Attorney General Eric Holder's recent restrictions on government claims of secrecy. The new rules require a high-level Justice Department committee to review all such claims, with the attorney general having the last word.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/03/31/BANU1CNUF6.DTL&tsp=1#ixzz0jnSj8jkG


The article you posted in the other thread is dated Oct. 2009

:shrug:



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Aaria Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 10:27 PM
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15. Thats a very telling photo.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 05:24 PM
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2. But aren't we still looking for those weapons of mass destruction too?
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 05:26 PM
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3. not to worry
ALL is forgiven. We're moving on now....

:sarcasm:
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 05:26 PM
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4. Don't need a federal judge to know WARRENTLESS tapping is illegal.
But nice to know there's a federal judge out there who can rule based on the law. Good thing Bybee wasn't the judge.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 05:27 PM
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5. Let me guess....
the Constitution-loving teabaggers will consider this to be bad news
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 05:39 PM
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8. From the article: "The ruling was also a rebuff to President Obama.
Edited on Wed Mar-31-10 05:46 PM by peacetalksforall
(continued) Although Obama had criticized Bush's surveillance program while running for president, Obama's Justice Department argued that courts lacked the power to decide whether the program was legal because any evidence of actual wiretapping was a secret that could not be disclosed without damaging national security."

I'm glad they said this, because his handling has been number one on my list of disappointments. However, I told myself when it happened that it would probably be better if the challenge to this Cheney-Bush crimse rises up through normal legal channels in this country or outside this country. And now it's happened. Hooray!


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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 06:13 PM
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10. Emptywheel (Marcy Wheeler) explains
why she thinks the DOJ is not likely to appeal.


Why DOJ Is Likely to Accept Vaughn Walker’s Ruling
By: emptywheel Wednesday March 31, 2010 2:13 pm
0 2:13 pm


As I posted earlier, Judge Vaughn Walker ruled against the government in the al-Haramain case today. Basically, Walker ruled that al-Haramain had been illegally wiretapped and the case should move to settlement judgment (corrected per some lawyer).

But there’s more to it. I think Walker has crafted his ruling to give the government a big incentive not to appeal the case. Here’s my thinking.

As you recall, last year when Walker ruled that al-Haramain had standing and therefore its lawyers should get security clearance that would allow them to litigate the case, the government threatened to take its toys–or, more importantly, all the classified filings submitted in the case–and go home. After some back and forth, Walker instructed the parties to make their cases using unclassified evidence; if the government wanted to submit classified evidence, Walker said, then al-Haramain would have to be given clearance to look at and respond to the evidence. The move did two things: it neutralized the government’s insistence that it could still use State Secrets to moot Walker’s ruling that al-Haramain had standing (and, frankly, avoided a big confrontation on separation of powers). But it also forced the government to prove it hadn’t wiretapped al-Haramain illegally, since it had refused to litigate the case in the manner which Congress had required.

The government basically refused to play. It made no defense on the merits. Which made it easy for Walker to rule in al-Haramain’s favor.

That’s the big headline: that Walker ruled the government had illegally wiretapped al-Haramain.

But there were two more parts of the ruling that are important. First, Walker refused al-Haramain’s request that he also issue an alternate ruling, one that relied on his review of the wiretap log and other classified filings, that would amount to a ruling on the merits. He basically said that such a ruling would muddy up the record if and when this case was appealed.

He also dismissed al-Haramain’s suit against the only remaining individual named as an individual defendant, Robert Mueller.

These last two parts of the ruling are, I think, the big incentives Walker has given for the government to just accept this ruling.

If this ruling stands, al-Haramain will get a ruling that the wiretapping was illegal. The government will be directed to purge any records it collected from its databases (I’ll explain in a later post why I think this will present some problems). And it’ll be asked to pay a fine, plus legal fees. But the fines, at least ($100 per day per day of illegal wiretapping) might end up being a relative pittance–tens of thousand or hundreds of thousand of dollars. Sure, there will be punitive fines and legal fees for four years of litigation. But the government was happy to settle Hatfill and Horn for millions, why not have this be done for the same range of millions?

What al-Haramain won’t get–unless it litigates some of the other issues in the case, which likely can be dismissed with State Secrets–is access to what the government was doing. Or details of how it came to be wiretapped illegally.

I’m betting that the government will be willing to accept the ruling that it illegally wiretapped al-Haramain in exchange for the ability to leave details of how and what it did secret, leaving the claim of State Secrets largely intact.

There is little risk that other people will sue on the same terms al-Haramain did, because few, if any, other people are going to be able to make the specific prima facie case that they were wiretapped that al-Haramain did. Few people are going to be able to point to public FBI statements and court documents to prove their case, as al-Haramain was able to. And anyone who does sue will end up before Walker, who has dismissed all other suits precisely because they lacked the specific proof that they were wiretapped that al-Haramain had. Plus, with the extent to which Congress has already gutted FISA, there’s little risk someone could sue going forward.

Since Walker dismissed the suit against Mueller, the government doesn’t have any individuals on the hook still for this illegal activity.

And, finally, by accepting this ruling–which argues that only if Congress has provided very specific guidance about court review, will a law automatically trump State Secrets–the government preserves the status quo on State Secrets largely intact (unless and until the full 9th Circuit panel upholds the Jeppesen decision, but I have increasing doubts they will).

So you decide. If you’re President Obama and Attorney General Holder, both of whom have already said that the illegal wiretap program was illegal, which are you going to choose? Accepting a ruling that says it was illegal, in exchange for keeping the details of that illegality secret? Or the invitation to take your chances with an appeal?



see the link itself for the internal links..

http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2010/03/31/why-doj-is-likely-to-accept-vaughn-walkers-ruling/

Judge Walker did his job admirably every step of the way. Books will be written about this- and him.
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 07:10 PM
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11. Thanks for posting the link.
Edited on Wed Mar-31-10 07:11 PM by Kadie
I will have to come back and read it all later. Looks interesting.

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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 08:06 PM
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12. The best running documentation over the YEARS of this case
Edited on Wed Mar-31-10 08:17 PM by chill_wind
on the net, IMHO, for putting it all into English. Just type in the search words Al Haramain or Judge Vaughn Walker on her main blog. A lot of legal and paralegals there in the comments sections and a couple high-profilers like Wendell Belew (one of the attorneys that was wire-tapped in the case) have come and gone as guests.

If I remember right, this story involved more than the wiretapping of the attorneys in their offices.
One of them was harassed at home, with suspected tampering of their home security alarm system, somebodies
getting into their family home snooping and searching when they weren't there etc... creepy intimidation stuff..

I wish I could find the story one of them told to alternet? The Nation? a few years ago. I posted it here at DU myself. Maybe someone else remembers, but the whole story is very creepy.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 08:29 PM
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13. What this case was about (Wired, 2007).
It started in 2004. A good refresher, if your memory, like mine, has begun to blur the details of some of the many high-profile Bush-era spying and warrentless eavesdropping cases that have finally come along in litigation over the years.



Top Secret: We're Wiretapping You
Ryan Singel Email 03.05.07

It could be a scene from Kafka or Brazil. Imagine a government agency, in a bureaucratic foul-up, accidentally gives you a copy of a document marked "top secret." And it contains a log of some of your private phone calls.

You read it and ponder it and wonder what it all means. Then, two months later, the FBI shows up at your door, demands the document back and orders you to forget you ever saw it.

By all accounts, that's what happened to Washington D.C. attorney Wendell Belew in August 2004. And it happened at a time when no one outside a small group of high-ranking officials and workaday spooks knew the National Security Agency was listening in on Americans' phone calls without warrants. Belew didn't know what to make of the episode. But now, thanks to that government gaffe, he and a colleague have the distinction of being the only Americans who can prove they were specifically eavesdropped upon by the NSA's surveillance program.

The pair are seeking $1 million each in a closely watched lawsuit against the government, which experts say represents the greatest chance, among over 50 different lawsuits, of convincing a key judge to declare the program illegal.

Belew's bout with the Terrorist Surveillance Program began in 2004, when he was representing the U.S. branch office of the prominent Saudi Arabian charity Al-Haramain. Formerly one of the largest charities in Saudi Arabia, Al-Haramain worked to spread a strict view of Islam through philanthropy, missionary work and support for mosques around the world.

(...)



the rest- http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2007/03/72811?currentPage=all
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 09:31 PM
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14. But whatever you do, DON'T BOYCOTT AT&T
or all of the other telecoms that participated, including SPRINT and VERIZON.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060320/shorrock

QWEST famously paid a heavy price for not participating.




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