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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 06:17 AM Original message |
Poll question: Would you support mandatory firearms safety courses? |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 06:30 AM Response to Original message |
1. Case by case basis... |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 06:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I'm sure but... |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 06:56 AM Response to Reply #4 |
17. Yea.. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 07:25 AM Response to Reply #17 |
30. Imperfect system, I'll grant you |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 07:38 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. re-test..YES... |
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flobee1 (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 06:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Definitely need competent teachers^^^ |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 06:40 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. You DON"T need a licence to operate a car... |
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flobee1 (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 06:45 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. perfectly legally |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 06:56 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Yes they do |
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YankeeFan (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #12 |
87. He right |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 06:57 AM Response to Reply #8 |
19. Okay. You won't need training to operate a firearm... |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 08:11 AM Response to Reply #8 |
34. I could argue that the vehicle that your child drives is likely |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 06:42 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Well, obviously competant instructors |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 06:30 AM Response to Original message |
2. Double Post, N/T |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 06:33 AM Response to Original message |
3. Yes. And having that certification would make you eligible for the federally |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 06:37 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Query |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 06:55 AM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Both. Insurance would cover the damage inflicted by you or your |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 07:08 AM Response to Reply #16 |
25. Surely that comes under criminal negligence? |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #25 |
45. Guns laws are vague and poorly enforced. If I sell a gun, once it leaves |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #45 |
100. The purpose of a gun is irrelevant in this context |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 06:42 AM Response to Reply #100 |
115. If the gun is insured and has been properly registered, then I agree |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 06:38 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Why?? |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 06:57 AM Response to Reply #7 |
20. It is not a penalty. It helps to provide financial compensation to victims |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 07:00 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. You seem to think that 80,000,000 People |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 05:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
41. Sorry, I dont' agree. I guns did not find their way into the hands of |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. How |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 09:29 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. Lets try. eom |
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YankeeFan (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 08:36 PM Response to Reply #51 |
108. Sorry blurum |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 06:33 AM Response to Reply #108 |
114. What? If the employer does not have a policy of ensuring that all |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 06:58 AM Response to Reply #3 |
21. Do you also support federally mandated insurance on swimming pools and other items |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 07:08 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Accidental death statistics. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 05:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
50. My homeowner's insurance covers liability if I screw up and shoot someone improperly |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 06:42 AM Response to Original message |
10. I had one |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 06:44 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. That's a seperate topic |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 06:49 AM Response to Original message |
13. To get a permit to buy a handgun in MI |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 07:00 AM Response to Reply #13 |
22. Small problem there |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 06:55 AM Response to Original message |
14. IMHO a national org. should offer to teach courses in basic firearm safety for children & adults |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 07:03 AM Response to Reply #14 |
24. Drunk politicians are above the law |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 07:16 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. One small problem with that.. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 07:21 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Sure |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 07:36 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. "If you see a gun: STOP! Don't Touch. Leave the Area. Tell an Adult" as a minimum. n/t |
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YankeeFan (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #31 |
93. Didn't you just quote the NRA's 'Eddie the Eagle' Program? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #93 |
99. Dem Party supports Americans' Second Amendment right to own firearms but some candidates don't. |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 08:28 AM Response to Reply #14 |
36. The NRA has been in that business since it began. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 08:16 PM Response to Reply #36 |
101. Heartily agreed |
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Squatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 06:55 AM Response to Original message |
15. Absolutely...with choices on the type(s) of course. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 07:16 AM Response to Reply #15 |
28. That's a concern, I'll agree |
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FloridaJudy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 01:21 AM Response to Reply #28 |
78. Our local Junior College used to offer fire-arms courses |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #78 |
102. My other half is the same way n/t |
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zalinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
33. I may be dumb on the subject, but |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 08:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
104. I'm cautious on licensing |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
35. as one of the 'rabid gun-nuts' on this board |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. As a gun owner, I absolutely agree. If a license is required to drive... |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 07:20 PM Response to Reply #38 |
81. Well, I'm assuming |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
37. I'd be conditionally for it... |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 03:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Yep Ben, I agree.. N/T |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #37 |
85. Point taken |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
39. Some of us had that training ... provided by the U.S. Army and a tour of duty in a combat zone. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #39 |
86. Well |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
42. I wouldn't require the class, I'd require passing a test on that material... |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 07:49 PM Response to Reply #42 |
88. Poor phrasing on my part |
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Sapere aude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
43. It's already mandatory in CA unless you have been trained in the military and some other places. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 05:53 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. The CA Handgun Safety Certificate is a joke |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 07:50 PM Response to Reply #43 |
89. That's CA though |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
46. Yes, if it included pro-active psychological fitness screening to keep guns out |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. There are two types of people who want guns urgently |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
47. I would support a mandatory safety course for a license to CARRY a gun, not to own one |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
52. If you support a ban on "assault weapons"... |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 06:59 PM Response to Reply #52 |
79. Can I be anti *some* guns? n/t |
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YankeeFan (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 08:22 PM Response to Reply #79 |
103. Not if you follow McCarthy |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. Thankfully, I don't have to follow McCarthy |
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YankeeFan (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #105 |
111. re: APDS |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
53. No. Mandatory firearms safety courses violate my right to choose. n/t |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 11:34 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. your right to choose what? |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 11:35 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. To choose to bust a cap in your ass! |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 11:38 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. people without training don't bust a cap in my ass. |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 11:43 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Oh I beg to differ |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 11:44 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. back, and to the left...back, and to the left... |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 11:46 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. if you're looking for me, |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 11:45 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. you see what I mean about luck. |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 11:51 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. My right to choose is my right to choose. |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 11:54 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. ok, you choose to mow down the neighborhood. |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 12:00 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Easy, Turbo... |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 12:04 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. "Apply it to any situation you want." |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 12:11 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Obtuse? How is my right to choose obtuse? |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 12:12 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. you have the right to choose what? |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 12:15 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. I have the right to choose whatever I want. It's called "Free Will". |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 12:19 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. no. free will is about ability, not right. |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 12:28 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Free will is what it is. Free will. It's not about ability, NOR right. It is what you make of it. |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 12:32 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. hooookay. |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 12:39 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Okay. I'll play... YOU choose where, why, and when I go to Gun Safety School. |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 12:53 AM Response to Reply #73 |
76. cool. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #71 |
107. To answer the actual questions |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 12:43 AM Response to Reply #54 |
74. I choose NOT to abide by what YOU deem to be mandatory. n/t |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 01:00 AM Response to Reply #74 |
77. free will is indeed a marvelous thing, |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 07:53 PM Response to Reply #53 |
92. On what grounds? |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
57. I'd be for a safety course like the NRA teaches on firearms |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 07:59 PM Response to Reply #57 |
95. That's the kind of thing I'm thinking of |
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treelogger (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-02-07 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
63. Sorry, this is already the law |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #63 |
80. I'm not trying to stop those who own their firearms illegally |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
75. In a heart beat |
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ncteechur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
82. Hell no! I'm all for giving away guns in school with the right hand and handing |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
83. No. It would just create another way to ban ownership by jacking up the price of the training later. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 08:02 PM Response to Reply #83 |
96. Really not my intent |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
84. So if you go through basic |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 08:03 PM Response to Reply #84 |
97. mos? |
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Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
90. Yes |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 08:04 PM Response to Reply #90 |
98. Not sure that's possible |
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roamer65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
91. Yes. Canada does it and its a great idea. |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
94. most states require it to get a hunting license |
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Paladin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
106. Absolutely: Mandatory Safety Courses, Starting Immediately |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 08:43 PM Response to Reply #106 |
109. How do you do emotional? |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
110. Yes, unless you can prove |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 09:04 PM Response to Reply #110 |
112. Easily done |
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westerebus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
113. NO, NO and NO. |
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