raASSmessen backs thumpson over Feingold, and pukes over Barrett

[Dinger]

What a fucking surprise.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2010/election_2010_governor_elections/wisconsin/election_2010_wisconsin_governor

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2010/election_2010_senate_elections/wisconsin/election_2010_wisconsin_se


Crock of shit, period.

[DarthDem]

1. No Point . . .

. . . even paying attention to Scotty Razz "polls." The analogy between them and e-mail spam grows stronger every day.

[Dinger]

2. I Know They're A Joke

Desperate times for desperate people.

[FBaggins]

3. All true... but none of that changes the fact that Feingold is potentially in trouble.

Assuming Thompson gets in the race.

Further assuming (and it's a much bigger "if") that conditions nationally don't improve.

[DarthDem]

4. No

I don't think that Feingold is in any real trouble, Thompson or not.

And the very fact that Spasmussen is aggressively polling an unannounced candidate should tell you all you need to know. Just attempting to drive a narrative and force events.

[FBaggins]

6. He's almost certainly "in trouble"

but that by no means indicates that he will lose. I would certainly hope not, since he is about the 10th-12th most endangered Democrat (IOW... if we lose that seat we've lost the Senate).

The source of the poll is enough to call the lead into question (as with the WPRI poll)... but not enough to say that he isn't "in any read trouble". PPP is certainly not a right-biased polling firm (in fact, they do the same "drive a narrative" polling here in NC for our side), and they show his approval numbers down substantially over the last several months. 45% job approval IS "trouble" if the other side has solid candidate recruitment. We can say whatever we want about Thompson, but he's reasonably popular in WI.

[shraby]

8. I live in Wisconsin and have never heard any good words

about Thompson.

[FBaggins]

9. How long have you lived there?

I don't have anything good to say about him either... but he WAS elected statewide four consecutive times... SOMEBODY must have had good words, no?

[DarthDem]

10. Not After Those Four Terms

See?

[FBaggins]

13. Really?

He went from winning by 20+ points to nobody has anything nice to say in just two years?

Did he shoot a kid?

[DarthDem]

11. Sorry

I just don't agree; almost all incumbents' approval ratings are down. And did you seriously just compare PPP to Rasmussen?????? No, no, and noooooo.

[FBaggins]

12. Compare PPP to Ras? Sure.

Not in direction of bias, but both are biased (and only Ras tries to hide this).

My point was that they ALSO run polls that are really just attempts to get a better candidate in to the race (by showing the incumbent is vulnerable).

And even in their poll, Feingold polled in the 45-47% (IIRC) range against no-name opponents. While they spun this as "not a race Dems have to worry about," anyone in polling can tell you that an incumbent polling in the mid 40s against a no-name (assuming no 3rd party in the race) is in trouble. The purpose of the PPP poll was to disuade a Thompson run just as much as the purpose of the Ras poll was to get him into the race.

Reality is likely somewhere in between... which is still a danger zone.

"All incumbents' approval ratings are down" doesn't win you any votes in November.

Note what I'm saying and what I'm NOT saying here. I'm not saying that we're likely to lose this seat. I'm saying that IF Thompson gets in the seat moves from "solid D - not competitive" to "Leans D" - the problem is that in a "wave" year, you lose some "lean" seats.

[DarthDem]

14. Still Not Buying It

I'm very familiar with PPP's work over the years. Even mentioning them in the same sentence as Rasmussen is severely misguided.

And no, Thompson didn't "shoot a kid."

I don't think this is going to be as much of a "wave election" as you seem to be concern trolling about . . . .

[midnight]

5. Very crappy indeed. I can't imagine why any one would vote for a quitter.

Tommy wanted to be our Governor until something better presented itself, so he quit. I suppose having a Senator who stands up for your rights is not as important as a quitter? I hope the voting population will be awake this time around. And the fact that a man with a GED is running for governor is concerning enough, but he puts his privatization of milwaukee co. before common sense. Walker lacks an education and common sense.

[FBaggins]

7. That only sells among people who would never have voted for him anyway.

How can you sell "quitter" when he was the longest-serving governor in state history?

His corporate connections (and Bush service) are the better avenues of attack.