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LaydeeBug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 03:52 PM
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A teabagger from FB posted this, and I am dying to refute it:
Edited on Mon Mar-15-10 03:56 PM by LaydeeBug

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Someone from the US has won the Nobel prize for Medicine 36 of the last 43 years... about 84% of the time. Remember we have about 5% of the world's population. YEAH, BUT DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT... WE SHOULD FIX THIS HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.
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How many of the Nobel Prize Winners for medicine, that we from America, support HCR? Is there a way to find this out?
I *NEED* to go to the gym. Please help me. :hi:
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 03:58 PM
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1. So...Heath Insurance Companies are the reason why the US Won so many Nobel prizes?
Even if the numbers are right...wtf does our insurance system have to do with Nobel Prize research???
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 04:06 PM
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6. BINGO!!! There's your answer!
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 03:59 PM
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I can not find anywhere quick where people have been asked.
Edited on Mon Mar-15-10 04:24 PM by Ozymanithrax
YOu could google all of their names one at a time, but it would be labor intensive.

What difference does it make, anyway?
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Puzzler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 03:59 PM
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2. I thought teabaggers did care about Nobel Prizes?
Not since Obama won one (and Al Gore too).
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 04:02 PM
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3. that just shows the strength of institutions (also the reason why foreigners "come to the US for
treatment": it's all the Mayo Clinic; it's not like Prime Ministers come here for regular checkups and procedures!)
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 04:03 PM
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4. I can tell you at least three Nobel laureates who fully support it
They're not in medicine (I don't have that information, so I'm not saying there are no Nobel laureates in that field who support it ... I just have to research it further). But they're in economics. Paul Krugman, as we know, does. And so do Daniel McFadden and Kenneth Arrow, both Nobel prize winners who signed the letter by major economists urging passage of the bill.

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/17/economists-letter-to-obama-on-health-care-reform/
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 04:04 PM
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5. That's like saying Britain shouldn't have seatbelt laws or speed limits...
...because Britain has the most Formula One championship wins.

In other words, a painfully pathetic non-sequitur.
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 04:24 PM
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7. Causality error. case closed.
Don't get beyond a four word rebuttal. It is ALWAYS the responsibility of the person making the assertion to do the heavy lifting.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 04:36 PM
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8. I'm sure that is great comfort to someone who just discovered s/he has terminal cancer...
...because s/he could not afford a routine check-up when it was curable.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 04:38 PM
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9. An American won the Nobel prize in economics
So why aren't you rich? :shrug:
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 04:42 PM
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10. Cool. then they also recognize the authority of Krugman and Stieglitz on the economy
and both of them said the bail out was not enough and was not directed to the right sources... i.e. the middle class.

you can google and get the AMA endorsement for health care reform.

you can also ask this person if they think that the research done in the lab makes it okay to charge more for the same medicine in the U.S. as that sold in CA, while NOT ALLOWING Americans to purchase this cheaper medicine.

or if that's something that maybe those Nobel Winners have nothing to do with.. unless that person wants to argue that R&D needs Americans to pay more for health care than anyone else in the world.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 04:54 PM
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11. As usual, the right-winger didn't do even 10 minutes of research
Edited on Mon Mar-15-10 05:19 PM by SOS
Since 1967 (43 years) the Nobel in Physiology and Medicine has been awarded to 108 people.
(Since there is often more than one laureate per year).

59 of those prizes went to Americans and 49 went to people of other nations.
Americans received 54% of the prizes, not 84%.

Let the lazy dolt figure it out here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_Laureates_in_Physiology_or_Medicine
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 05:01 PM
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14. Why let facts get in the way of good propaganda?
The entire nitwit post was beyond nonsensical to even the least discerning reader (as ably demolished in this thread). The post was designed only to convince people who already know what they "think," especially without the thinking part.

My guess is that any rebuttal will result in the original post disappearing.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 04:57 PM
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12. Healthcare in America is great if you're a millionaire!
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 05:01 PM
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13. Just tell them it wasn't some asshole in a corner office rejecting claims who won it
That's the difference. This isn't about health care for astroturfers and teabaggers, it's about corporate reform, and they know it.
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