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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 06:13 PM
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Tweety just said: "I was always skeptical of this crowd" .....
in reference to BushCo and the lead-up to the Iraq War and all the diagrams and reports of WMDS....

Que? :shrug: Did I miss something? Was he the lone MSM voice railing against the faulty intelligence, or is he pulling a Tenet after-the-fact CYA?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 06:15 PM
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 06:15 PM
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2. Ya know, I'll take a consistenly vile wingnut like Hannity . . .
Over a smarmy twit like Tweety any day.

Hypocrisy is just more aggravating than fanaticism.
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 06:15 PM
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3. I must have missed his scepticism too.
Either way, he is making it up, in which he's a liar. Or he really was sceptical but didn't tell anyone, in which case he's a coward.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 08:26 AM
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30. Oh, he said so
He wasn't a hero about it, but he was vocally skeptical. I remember cause he was one of the only people on TV who did seem skeptical, & I was so grateful that somebody was questioning this crew.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 06:15 PM
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4. He sure had a lot of Viagra moments over Chimpy's "mission accomplished" stunt
:eyes:
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 06:20 PM
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10. He was ready to do a "Monica" on the chimp in a flight suit no doubt about it. n/t
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 06:23 PM
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13. that was the day i stopped watching him, that was probably one of the worst
moments in pundit history. I think he was actaully ooooohhhhhhhhhing.
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JetCityLiberal Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 06:15 PM
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5. Since when? n/t
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 06:17 PM
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6. Since about a half hour ago. But it's still today...
:eyes:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 06:17 PM
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7. the only thing i can kind of remember about him and the war is that i think
he wasn't for it, he and Lou Dobbs and some other barking heads, if i'm incorrect which i usually am someone will tell me.
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Mike Nelson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 06:19 PM
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8. chris matthews
is a horrible hypocrite
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 06:19 PM
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9. He was against the Iraq War, IIRC
And consistently questioned Cheney's reasons for going to war. This is totally apart from his crush on Bush. Tweety is a complex man.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 06:24 PM
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I wasnt sure myself, but I confirmed it online. He was against the war.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 06:21 PM
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11. Tweety has amnesia. Here's what he was
saying almost exactly 4 years ago, May 1, 2003:

"He won the war. He was an effective commander. Everybody recognizes that...He looks great in a military uniform."

Same day:

"We're proud of our president....I think we like having a hero as our president."

Tweety is full of shit and has been for a very long time.
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frankenforpres Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 06:34 PM
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18. this is after
what were dems that voted for war saying when the war was going well?



tweety was against the war when the pols were being cowards
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 06:22 PM
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12. Skeptical when he wasn't drooling over
bush's sock-in-the-flight-suit routine.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 06:24 PM
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14. This isn't the first time he's said that
This is from Sept. 2006

Matthews claimed he has opposed Iraq war "from the beginning," that media coverage of war "sucks" -- but he has frequently contributed to problematic war reporting

Summary: Chris Matthews complained that the news media "sucks lately in covering the Iraq war," later asserting, "I have been a voice out there against this bullshit war from the beginning." But Media Matters has documented numerous instances during the past three years in which Matthews lauded President Bush's handling of the war, advanced false and misleading claims about the war, and attacked Democratic critics of the war.

On the September 21 edition of MSNBC's Imus in the Morning, Hardball host Chris Matthews complained that the news media "sucks lately in covering the Iraq war," later asserting, "I have been a voice out there against this bullshit war from the beginning." Matthews further challenged host Don Imus to "check everything -- get your Nexis-Lexis out, get your Google out ... every column I've written from the day they started talking about Iraq has been against it."


However, Media Matters for America has documented numerous instances during the past three years in which Matthews lauded President Bush's handling of the war, advanced false and misleading claims about the war, and attacked Democratic critics of the war. Matthews has also repeatedly expressed support in recent months for two potential 2008 Republican presidential candidates, Sen. John R. McCain (AZ) and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, each of whom has been supportive of the war and Bush. In fact, as recently as September 19, Matthews wondered "whether there is a strong, serious alternative to the president's philosophy, which is this sort of neoconservative, we're going to go around the world and democratize other countries with force. I don't know whether there's a strong counter to that at a time of terrorism, and I'm waiting to see if there is one, a strong alternative which says, 'We can create peace, create less enemies, and we can have less terrorism if we do a different thing than he's doing.' "
http://mediamatters.org/items/200609210010

I guess it just depends on which way the wind is blowing.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 06:27 PM
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15. Here is part of a Salon article from February of 2003 that says he was against the war.
"Hardball" lost some of its edge in the early days of the Bush administration. Matthews needs an enemy, or at least a cause, to keep him charged. But the show has become must-viewing again for anyone tuned into the nation's latest political drama (one that cable news poohbahs also hope will boost ratings): Who wants to bury a dictator? This time around, though, Matthews is bucking the right. He's the only mainstream cable host who's openly opposing the administration's rush to war, and almost every night he battles bloodthirsty Iraq hawks and rails against spineless Democrats who won't muster the power to stop them. Even more remarkably, considering the media establishment's reluctance to take issue with Israeli leaders, he never misses an opportunity to critique the Bush administration's pro-Ariel Sharon Middle East policy, which he insists endangers the U.S. as well as Israel by denying the Palestinians' legitimate aspirations to statehood.

http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2003/02/14/chrismatthews/index.html




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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 06:32 PM
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16. He was skeptical of the reasons given and necessity of the Iraq War.
Edited on Mon Apr-30-07 06:33 PM by Pirate Smile
He didn't say it enough but I knew from watching the show at the time that he wasn't exactly on board.

That being said - he usually kept his feelings and views out of the show. He wasn't vocally arguing against it.

I did know he was skeptical though. That was a shitty, shitty time with a terrible atmosphere in the country.

I lived in KC and the newspaper there (Kansas City Star) was owned by Knight-Rider so I was actually getting decent news coverage. I didn't have access to the internet at the time. Thank goodness I had a decent paper so I knew and was aghast at the news coverage at the time.

Since I didn't have the internet then it made for a rather lonely feeling during that time. It just seemed like the government and news media had lost their friggin minds.

I knew Tweety was skeptical but he wasn't exactly a profile in courage either.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 06:33 PM
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17. I think many of us find "Tweety" a WATCH because of how cleverly HE LIES!
I was hooting and hollering over that latest. As he whores for most of his show promo'ing his BIG REPUG DEBATE...he tries to "slip in" how "FAIR AND BALANCED" he is.

What a joke. He's only worth watching for Entertainment/Spin value to see where the Right Wing "softies" are trying to go. :puke: on him!
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 06:45 PM
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19. He, like most are not worth the time of day.
Edited on Mon Apr-30-07 07:24 PM by stellanoir
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 07:23 PM
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20. The sound of heads exploding fills the air.
That's just unreal.

MUST hundreds's of quotes to the contrary be dug up with ease?

(Bless you David Brock for that treasure)

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 07:26 PM
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21. Mounds of video evidence show otherwise, you lying fuck.
NT!

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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 09:02 PM
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25. yeah
you lying fuck!
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SayitAintSo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 07:57 PM
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22. Yea ....but he sure liked Bush in that flight suit
He was all giddy and slobbery over his 'package' if you remember.....
Tweety is is pulling a revisionist 'Tenet' routine.... They are all 'hos' IMO....
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 07:59 PM
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23. Misspoken. He meant to say "I was all ways septic with this crowd."
Edited on Mon Apr-30-07 08:00 PM by TahitiNut
:evilgrin:
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 08:01 PM
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24. Ha! What utter crap!
Edited on Mon Apr-30-07 08:02 PM by libnnc
Someone please pull the tapes of Tweety practically yanking his wanker while describing the sunny nobility of the murderous chimp in chief...PLEASE! These people amaze me.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 09:04 PM
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26. A criticism is that while he was skeptical, he booked many more pro-war guests...
...than anti-war guests.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 08:22 AM
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28. At the same time,
the atmosphere in 2003 was absolutely poisonous. Donahue got fired for speaking out against the war, and the MSNBC president said that they had a company policy to book more pro-war guests out of fear of being perceived as "unpatriotic". It seemed like Tweety was one of the only pundits who even dared to question the reasons for the war, & I think he should get just a little credit for that. He's an odd guy, but I don't think he's owned by Bushco.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 09:17 PM
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27. And oh, how he SLOBBERED over Tom Delay
I'll bet Tom is still trying to towel dry himself after that slurping.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 08:25 AM
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29. Chris Matthews' Mission Accomplished Love Fest.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 08:31 AM
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31. Tweety Hedges His Bets...Again
Talk about a weathervane. Tweety parses this as, yes, I never heard him come out in favor of this invasion like his other corporate media bretheren, but he sure did a lot of enabling in those days. He allowed the Perles and Wolfowitz's and even worse...their media proxies like Coulter and Liddy and Kate O'Bierne go on that show and spew the party line with little blowback from Tweety.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 08:32 AM
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32. His nose must be a foot long by now and very brown.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 08:49 AM
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33. Sorry Chris, The Life-boat is Full
You're going down with the ship.
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 08:53 AM
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34. tweety - "Mission Accomplice"
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