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demtenjeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 12:35 AM
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Do you remember people smoking in businesses? Do you remember ashtrays in elevators and banks?
It is totally a thing of the past.

Kansas is now smoke free.

Smoking ban becomes law
Jaime Green/The Wichita Eagle



The smoking ban

Here’s where you can and can’t smoke under the smoking ban law signed by the governor Friday. The ban will go into effect July 1.

Smoking banned:

*public places

*taxicabs and limousines

*restrooms, lobbies, hallways and other common areas in public and private buildings, including hotels, condominiums and apartment buildings

*any place of employment

*access points of buildings and facilities

Exempt from ban:

*outdoor rooms open to the elements

*outdoor areas of any facility beyond access points

*private homes except when used as a day care home

*hotel or motel rooms designated for smoking guests

*gaming floor of a lottery or racetrack gaming facility

*designated, ventilated smoking areas in adult care homes and long-term care units

*tobacco shops

*private clubs licensed by Jan. 1, 2009

*private clubs that are outdoor recreational facilities, have substantial membership requirements and set aside a designated area away from minors
TOPEKA — Legislation banning smoking in many public places in Kansas has been signed by the governor.

"The journey of passing a statewide public smoking ban has been long and hard, but today we are able to cross the finish line knowing that we have built a better future for generations to come," said Gov. Mark Parkinson in a statement this morning.

"With this legislation, our state takes the necessary steps to save Kansas lives by reducing cancer, tobacco-related diseases and teen smoking."


http://www.kansas.com/2010/03/12/1222148/smoking-ban-becomes-law.html#storylink=omni_popular
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 12:39 AM
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1. I once worked for a company where the air inside was deep blue.
Even in an outdoor tent there were so many smokers you couldn't see across it. It was open to the elements, but you couldn't breathe in it.

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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 01:18 AM
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26. i remembered when schools had smoking. I remember people smoking
in grocery stores, thumping melons with cigs in their pie holes. My grandpa, dad, aunt, uncle, three of their kids, and other assorted relatives died from smoking. Good for your state.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 11:30 AM
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81. hospitals, theatres...
It is true sometimes we have to have our stupidity controlled by the government.

and drunk driving.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 12:40 AM
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2. I remember.
Toronto has been smoke-free for some time. I like it.

Of course, I remember those smoking days....my father smoked 3.5 to 4 packs per day. Everyone in the family smoked. It was like living in an ashtray. I didn't smoke, however. I'm the one with the lung condition. Life is not fair.
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DaveinJapan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 06:14 AM
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53. Are you SURE your Dad smoked 3.5 to 4 packs per day????
Allowing an average of six hours of sleep, that means he lit up a cigarette roughly every 15 minutes of every day on average...

That sounds pretty insane to me (downright impossible these days), was he very compulsive about his smoking habit?

Sorry to sound callous, I certainly don't mean to be, but that's a VERY extreme case (similar to an alcoholic who drinks from wake up to pass out with no in-between...the utter extreme example of addictive behavior!).
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 06:46 AM
Response to Reply #53
56. My sister smoked 4 packs a day
She literally lit up one after another.
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 08:11 AM
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60. When I was a kid there was a guy who came
into the filling station I worked at and bought 6 packs per day. He claimed to smoke 6 packs a day while he was driving for his delivery job.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 08:57 AM
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65. for some people, a huge part of the addiction is the habit of lighting up. It's not just
smoking the cigarette, it's the whole gestalt. And for some, lighting up is a huge part of it so they may not even smoke a whole cigarette before abandoning it for a new one.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 12:46 PM
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83. "Chain smokers" lit the new cigarette from the butt of the one just smoked before they snuffed it
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 10:55 PM
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114. You are quite correct, and yes,
my father was that kind of chain smoker. Moreover, he didn't actually ever put the thing down unless he had to; it hung out of the corner of his mouth.

First thing he did in the morning, and the last thing he did at night.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 04:16 AM
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117. We used to call it "chain-smoking" -- light a new cig with the butt of the old one and keep puffing
I used to be surrounded by smokers :shrug:

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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 12:40 AM
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3. San Carlos, Ca. If you live in an apartment building...you can't smoke
inside you own apartment.
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billymike Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 12:41 AM
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4. yup
my high school had a student smoking lounge, ashtrays in doctors' offices, of course the college classroom, the DMV. . .
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billymike Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 12:43 AM
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7. and hospital rooms! those were the days.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 12:45 AM
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8. Had to sneak out of the hospital in a wheelchair to smoke.
This was in winter and it was damn cold out there dressed in a hospital gown.
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Still Blue in PDX Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 01:00 AM
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17. My dad, who was DNR code status, coded when he had snuck out for a smoke during his last admission.
Of course they did all the ACLS stuff and got him back. He wasn't thrilled about it.

Fifteen years later and I still don't know whether to laugh or cry about that.
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demtenjeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 12:47 AM
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11. When I had my child 18 years ago, I was asked if I wanted a smoking or non-smoking room
I said non
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 01:39 AM
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31. I actually started smoking during a hospital stay.
LOL. Talk about unclear on the concept!
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 10:13 PM
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106. We had a smoking lounge in high school too.
Only seniors could use it. They got rid of it just as I became a senior. That was back in '88.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 05:27 AM
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120. We did too, only all four hs grades could use it.
Also had a covered outdoor smoking porch on the other side of the building.
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 11:36 PM
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142. In high school...
We could smoke everywhere except classrooms.Two years after I left they had specific smocking zones and a few years later it was totally verboten to smoke inside.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 12:42 AM
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5. There's still plenty of places in the Deep South where smoking is common**nm
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 12:47 AM
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12. That's coming to an end down here. Liberals and Conservatives are teaming up to ban public smoking.
It's a very interesting way to get them together.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 01:02 AM
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20. Then I wish they'd get to my corner of the South**nm
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 09:55 PM
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103. It is banned in quite a few towns in MS. Smoking areas
in restaurants is unheard of around here.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 01:53 AM
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33. Too bad they can't do the same for a Health Care Plan
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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 12:43 AM
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6. Hell, I'm so old I remember smoking on airplanes
No lie!! There was a 'smoking' and (even more improbable) "Non-smoking"

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Still Blue in PDX Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 01:01 AM
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19. I do too. Does that mean I'm old??
The truth hurts.
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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 01:12 AM
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21. Yeah, join the club!
And I got a kick out of your sig line!
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 11:49 PM
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143. I flew twice in my life...
But on the same trip.I was 15 and there was a smocking section.The limit of each sections was signaled by a small sign with Velcro that the crew was putting on the back of some seats.We had smokers tickets but once seated one of the flight attendant took off the sign and placed it two rows back so we ended up in the non smoker section.We enjoyed our cancer sticks anyway.:smoke:
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Flaneur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 01:13 AM
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22. My last smoking flight: From NYC to Mexico City on Mexicana, 1993.
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ChicagoSuz219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 02:32 AM
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38. ..& city buses & trains. n/t
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 03:12 AM
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45. I seem to remember that they had little cartons
of maybe four cigarettes that came with your meals. Am I dreaming that, or does my memory serve? That was back when they served real meals that came free with your air fare.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 04:51 AM
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50. Cute little boxes of 5 cigarettes.
When I was in college (62-66) you could walk through the student union and pick up a free box of five - choice limited to Salem, Kent or Winston. They targeted females as the promotion tables were placed at the doors where the female dorm residents entered the union/cafeteria. None of the regular packs of cigarettes were in boxes back then - just the little freebies.
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DaveinJapan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 06:21 AM
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54. Smoking is still allowed on some airlines for some international flights, I think.
Just 12 years ago they had smoking sections on international flights for American carriers, in particular I remember a smoking section on a NorthWest flight from L.A. to Japan back in 1998. When I returned to America six months later, however, they had banned it entirely (but you can still smoke on some foreign carriers such as Aeroflot and a few others, if not officially).

I remember my Dad complaining when he had to take a relatively short flight (I'd say this was around 25 years ago or so though) with his boss who was a smoker and thus Dad had to sit in the smoking section. Not too pleasant to be sure!
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 02:18 PM
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85. Airplanes? That's nothing. I remember adults smoking in movie theaters during the kiddie matinees.
For that matter, theaters were a favorite spots for older kids to sneak their first smokes.
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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 09:29 PM
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102. Geez o geezer, I forgot that!
The air was hazy in front of the projector light!!

And they had smoking on US flights still in 1976, that was the last time I recall flying with a pal who smoked. Now they may have gone a lot longer than that, but I do think the ban started on domestic flights, am I right?
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 07:03 PM
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135. I do too...
however, I was taking transatlantic flights by the age of 6, so...

As I recall, US domestic flights banned smoking years before international flights.

I also lived in Europe for many years - there were no smoking bans virtually anywhere then.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 12:45 AM
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9. I won't go into detail, but I had a direct hand in banning smoking in a national company in the 80s.
It affected tens of thousands of employees.

Some were pissed. Most were very happy.

And then I quit the company a month later. LOL!

Ah... Good times.

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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 02:29 AM
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37. Thank you onehandle!!
You probably added several years to my life -- seriously. I used to spend a lot of time in jazz clubs and it was like being in a smoke bin until the ban happened in L.A. I quit smoking in 85 but really "smoked" for another 6 or 7 years until that restaurant & bar ban came through, just from being around it so much!!
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 12:46 AM
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10. I remember a district judge who smoked from the bench during trials.
Edited on Sat Mar-13-10 12:50 AM by TexasObserver
And lawyers at counsel tables fired up, too.

It was crazy in the 1970s for smoking. That's about the time they started having a smoking section in commercial airliners. There used to be ash trays on seats in airplanes.

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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 01:15 AM
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24. Used to be able to smoke in the county jail too.
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 12:48 AM
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13. I may be a smoker, but I am glad there's ban
because too many smokers just smoke too much, careless with their cig butts, etc. Even as a smoker I could not stand the smell. I would smoke outside of my house, in my screened porch.

I stopped smoking by changing over to e-cigarettes!
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Change has come Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 03:21 AM
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46. I'm enjoying a vape right now!
28 days with out a cig. :hi:
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 08:18 AM
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61. 6 weeks on Monday....Commit Lozenges for me..
Edited on Sat Mar-13-10 08:18 AM by pipoman
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 06:29 PM
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93. A little longer for me -- this time. Hang in there! nt
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 03:55 AM
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48. I read there's chemicals and shit in them just the same.
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 07:13 PM
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96. There's some propylene glycol in them but it's in practically every product in the drug store anyway
Other than that, no combustion = no chemicals.

Just h2o and nicotine.
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 02:28 PM
Response to Reply #13
86. e-cigs worked for me too! 35 year 2-pack-day habit went *poof* last June!
e-cigs are a true blessing for me.
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 05:50 PM
Response to Reply #86
92. The drigs I was put on after my heart attack got me to quit
Blood pressure meds and nicotine makes your head feel like a Macy's day parade.
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thelordofhell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 12:53 AM
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14. I never minded the smoking.......just the butts
I swear, when I see butts on the ground or worse, dorks tossing them out of their cars. The world is not your ashtray!!
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 12:57 AM
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16. Cigarette butts are the #1 most polluted item in the world.
Google it. It's true.
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DaveinJapan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 06:40 AM
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55. Even if so, I would imagine it's pretty biodegradable no?
Not to minimize smoke related littering to be sure, but I would imagine the ocean of plastic out there in the oceans is more of a problem.

Is it not?
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 08:29 AM
Response to Reply #55
64. here
http://www.cigarettelitter.org/index.asp?PageName=Smokers


Different groups have done different studies and their results differ, with some people saying cigarettes decompose in a year, some saying it takes twelve years, and others saying they never decompose at all (the filters are made of a type of acetate that never fully breaks down). That is not what people mean when they use the word biodegradable. Rather than get into a scientific argument, we ask smokers who litter to use common sense. Ask yourself if the cigarette you throw down is going to disappear anytime soon. Do your own experiment. Put a cigarrete in an outdoor planter (use a string or pin to secure it), and see how long it stays there. We guarantee it will be a long term experiment! However long you finally decide it takes for a cigarette to decompose, ask yourself if you would like all such "biodegradable" items to be thrown on the ground, such as cardboard containers, newspapers, kleenex, paper grocery bags, etc. It wouldn't be pretty.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 09:10 AM
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66. They're supposed to be
If by "biodegradable", you mean "decomposes in a human lifetime".



God, I hate that shit.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 09:36 AM
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70. No. They can last decades. They contain plastics.
Edited on Sat Mar-13-10 10:21 AM by onehandle
Smokers think they are gone when they toss them.

No so. Cigarette butts are a plague on our sewer systems.

They clog them and leak poisons into our water constantly.
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DaveinJapan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 05:37 PM
Response to Reply #70
89. Ugh, gross!
Well, I stand corrected then.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 10:23 PM
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107. Cigarette butts are not biodegradable, sorry
The filtering media is a plastic called cellulose acetate, and the paper wrapper is waterproofed so it doesn't get soggy from the smoker's saliva.

Now for the best part: You've heard of Kent cigarettes with the Micronite Filter, correct? Supposedly the most effective, safest, most healthful filter on the planet. From 1952 through 1957, the Kent filter's media was crocidolite asbestos, the deadliest asbestos of them all.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 10:58 PM
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115. Great point, thelordofhell. I remember taking a two-week vacation to camp out a Kerr Lake
Edited on Sat Mar-13-10 10:59 PM by bertman
lakeside campsite back in '86 or '87. It was in early fall when there were few other campers. The campsite was gorgeous--sandy with a screen of trees around it and the lake in front.

I spent the ENTIRE FIRST DAY picking up cigarette butts from that one campsite. They were everywhere. It was obvious that no one who smoked considered a butt to be trash, but I was determined that I was not going to look at one frickin' butt marring the beauty of my outdoor home.

I was so proud of myself.

Now those campsites still have cigarette butts littering them, but not as many as years ago.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 12:54 AM
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15. i remember when people smoked at boeing, in grocery stores, & in the waiting rooms of businesses.
maybe even in doctor's offices.

funny how we're all so much more unhealthy now because of second-hand smoke.
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vanlassie Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 08:35 PM
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101. My dentist kept one going over the sink while he drilled on us kid's teeth.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 01:01 AM
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18. I remember smoking everywhere
and at all times.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 01:14 AM
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23. Yep, back when I smoked at work, at play, in the theaters, everywhere...
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 01:18 AM
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25. I remember when you could smoke in theaters and hospital rooms.God, I'm old
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 01:21 AM
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27. Not in elevators or clothing stores (massive fire hazzard)
But definitely movie theaters and airplanes. I could swear my grandma smoked at the Winn-Dixie.
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ChicagoSuz219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 02:33 AM
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39. Elevators & stores, too, back then. n/t
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 01:22 AM
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28. You could walk through Nordstrom smoking -- and always ashtrays in the dressing rooms. nt
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 02:39 AM
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41. See, I remember people being told to put cigarettes out in clothing stores in the 80s.
It was a fire hazard.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 07:58 AM
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59. That's maybe what they said to be polite.
Careless smokers damaged a lot of clothing.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 09:45 AM
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71. I'm thinking the 60's and 70's, but I think you're right that they started "cracking down"
in the 80's. Just about the only place I can remember where you couldn't smoke was in church, but it was pretty much okay to do it everywhere else. Oh yeah, and the gas pumps.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 11:27 AM
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80. The '80s was when self-service gas stations started to blossom
and there was just no way you could allow people to get out of their cars with a cig in the mouth and start pumping gas.
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Still Blue in PDX Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 10:43 PM
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109. The Lutheran church I attended in Pgh. in the '80s had ashtrays in the fellowship hall. nt
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 01:32 AM
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29. We brought ashtrays
to our desks in Nursing School. I also remember smoking during summer band rehearsals. We would but the lit cigs between a couple of keys and then when we rested we would smoke.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 01:38 AM
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30. No. But I do remember a Public Option being promised.
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 01:49 AM
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32. I sure do.
Gawd, I'm old.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 02:08 AM
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34. Yup. I'm only 40 but I remember a LOT of jobs I had in my teens and 20s where I smoked at my desk.
I don't really mourn it. I understand the rights of people to not breathe smoke at work.

But I do remember one job I had in New York in the late 80s, where after getting pushed out, we sneaked out to smoke in the stairwells of our large building, and I struck up a flirty friendship with one handsome guy from another company. Turns out I wasn't his type--I'm female--but I invited him to a party, and he and my best-friend-slash-roommate (gay, male) DID click and wound up being together for about six years. Never would have happened if it weren't for the ways that smokers meet. Which non-smokers don't know about, but that's OK.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 02:17 AM
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35. I'd like to see a lot less smoking in public outdoor areas
I expect to get bitched at over this -- but I'm so tired of going to music festivals and having to sit out on the grass somewhere far away from the stage because there are people smoking in the seats.

I'm tired of having someone come down the street in front of my house with a cigarette in summer when I have the windows open -- and five minutes later they're in the next block and I'm still coughing.

I'm tired of having to wait until after the guy across the street clears the snow off his walk before I can go out and shovel mine, because he thinks snow shoveling and smoking a cigar just naturally go together.

I'm glad that smoking has been banned in most indoor areas -- but a lot of those actually have efficient ventilation systems that whisk the smoke away. Outdoors the smoke just spreads out and hangs in the air and creates far more of a problem.

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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 02:35 PM
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88. Oh c'mon. Do you also go apoplexic at barbeques and bonfires?
How 'bout fireplaces --- do you make sure a house doesn't have one in operation before entering?

Smoking bans are one thing but bitching about someone walking in front of your house with a cig is the most ridiculous thing I've read here in some time, and that's saying a lot.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 07:08 PM
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95. Yeah, that's the sort of reaction I expected
Smokers are so often in denial about the degree of distress they can cause to other people. They just don't want to believe how far their smoke travels, how little it takes to affect someone with a sensitivity to it, and how long the effect lasts.

Ordinary woodfire or barbecue smoke is not the same as cigarette smoke. It can be irritating, but it doesn't make my chest tighten up and stay that way for several minutes.

Your making fun of someone with a sensitivity to cigarette smoke is about equivalent to making fun of someone who might go into shock if they eat anything with even the slightest trace of peanuts. It may satisfy your own need to believe that anybody who complains about your behavior is just being "ridiculous" -- but it has very little to do with reality.

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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 07:18 PM
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98. I'm not making fun of you, I'm calling you out for telling lies.
Edited on Sat Mar-13-10 07:19 PM by Doremus
"Ordinary woodfire or barbecue smoke is not the same as cigarette smoke."

If you're going to make a claim to bolster your unreasonable fear of a stray whiff of cigarette smoke, you'd better do your homework first.

Combustion = combustion = combustion

The only difference between the smoke coming out of your fireplace and a lit cigarette is that the fireplace emits carcinogens at a far greater volume.


By the way, I am not a smoker. TYVM.
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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 10:37 PM
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108. And 30% of the perfume that women wear makes me nauseous & gives me a
headache if I have to be close to the wearer for too long, and that lingers for a while after I'm away from the person. And lets talk about the women who spritz it on themselves in public bathrooms, causing a cloud of the foul smelling stuff that lingers on MY clothes for the remainder of the day. Oh goody, I get to feel just a little sick all day and I get to reek of the stuff. When those women walk by me on the street, it's a moment of stomach-turning on my part but it passes quickly. So I should be able to designate what perfumes are acceptable and how much each person can dab/spray on herself (and very rarely himself). No, perfume isn't carcinogenic (that we know of), but it's offensive to me in the way you're describing cigarette smoking as offensive to you.

The world can't revolve around us. I no longer smoke (did for many years but quit) and I don't love being right around it, certainly not in enclosed areas. But I certainly don't begrudge people smoking outside, for goodness sakes. If they're at my house, they're perfectly welcome to sit out comfortably on my front porch and smoke. If it's going in my face or getting thick, I'll likely object, but that doesn't tend to happen as I find most of the smokers I know are thoughtful about smoking out nonsmokers. I may not be as sensitive to it as you are, but I'm sensitive to other things that you may or may not be. Who knows, you could even be one of those people whose perfume makes me nauseous and guess what -- you (hypothetically) have every right to wear that perfume &, if I can't get away from you, I just have to deal with it.

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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 06:53 AM
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123. Ok, wow.
If this isn't an exaggeration: I'm tired of having someone come down the street in front of my house with a cigarette in summer when I have the windows open -- and five minutes later they're in the next block and I'm still coughing. you must need an iron lung or something.

Julie
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 08:34 AM
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127. ...made me laugh!
TYY :)
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 02:17 AM
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36. I remember news anchors smoking on-air. I remember my parents cleaning the car ashtray...
... by dumping it out in parking lots. I remember hot butts on department-store floors and on sidewalks. I remember the beautiful red trail of sparks when someone dropped their butt from a moving car at night (that memory is really creepy, because I live in fire-prone California). I remember being the only non-smoker in the Seminar Room at college, where the cool intellectuals hung out (oh man did I want to be a cool intellectual, LOL) -- you could have cut the air with a knife.

I remember moving away, living with non-smoking roommates, and coming home for a Christmas visit to discover for the first time that my parents' super-clean home reeked of cigarette smoke so badly that when they went out for a couple of hours I turned off the heater and opened every window and door to air it out.

I remember the first time a friend *asked* if it was okay to light up in my apartment (where I always thoughtfully kept an ashtray) and how amazed I was that I now had a choice in the matter.

I traveled overseas for the first time in 1999 and flew for an ungodly amount of time in a jumbo jet with air so foul I couldn't even believe I was breathing that stuff. When I deplaned in New York City to transfer to my flight back to California I said to the agent, "Please, please put me in the non-smoking section," and she laughed. "You're back in the US: it's all non-smoking." I could h ave kissed her.

Hekate

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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 03:51 AM
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47. A while back...
...someone here posted a video of Mike Wallace interviewing Ayn Rand. He was quite young at the time and the video was in black and white. During the interview, he lit up twice and I remember laughing out loud at that, because it's something one will never ever see again in this day and age.

Wallace's smoking was funny, Ms. Rand not so much.
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ChicagoSuz219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 02:35 AM
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40. A couple years ago I worked a Doctors convention...
...during the breaks, I was shocked at how many Doctors were outside smoking.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 09:13 AM
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67. I knew a pulmonologist who smoked like a chimney
I even saw a nurse give a patient a full set of spirometry tests, then head immediately downstairs to smoke a ciggie.

Go figure.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 11:05 AM
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77. we had an ashtray at the nurses' station..hell,everyone smoked.
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 02:48 AM
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42. I live in Winston-Salem NC - the home of RJReynolds tobacco company.
When I came here at age 20 I did not smoke. I was counseled to buy a Reynolds product and smoke it during job interviews.
I did.
I smoked for 30 years after that.

There was no place in this town where smoking was not encouraged, grocery store aisled had ground up butts all over the floors......

They dropped Doonesbury from the local paper because of Mr. Butts.......

yes I know what you are saying, and it is all different now, even here.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 02:58 AM
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43. Well, I have to admit
that smoking bothers me a lot--physically, I start coughing and can't breathe. Tonight I went out to dinner with a friend, and we went to the Piccadilly Pub, and right out front at the main entrance, there were about six smokers, and I had to hold my breath in order to get into the building.

Smoking is detrimental to one's health, and my dad died at the age of 58 from lung cancer, brought on by almost 50 years of smoking. I know that some people never get cancer from it, but everyone in my dad's family is gone, from either cancer brought on by smoking (his only brother and one of his sisters) or by heart disease brought on by smoking or other substances.

Everyone has their own reason for whether they see sense in a ban or not, so my own view on the subject is biased by family history. I find cigarettes disgusting and awful, and have been lucky I never really smoked. (As a young teenager, I tried them a couple of times, but never inhaled. When someone told me I had to inhale, I gave them up right away, because when I tried to inhale, I almost coughed up a lung--yes, that is hyperbole!)
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 03:08 AM
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44. Oh, sure.
Edited on Sat Mar-13-10 03:19 AM by Blue_In_AK
Offices, airplanes, everywhere. People smoked everywhere. I remember a particular boss I had who smoked like a chimney all day long -- AND he made me get his coffee for him! I would never have thought to refuse, that's how brainwashed we were. Ah, the good old days.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 04:01 AM
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49. Do you remember watching your uncle die of tongue cancer?
Edited on Sat Mar-13-10 04:02 AM by Maru Kitteh
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demtenjeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 02:15 PM
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84. um no but two of my uncles died at Normandy Beach
your point?
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 05:53 AM
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51. On airplanes and everywhere else including
glossy magazine advertisements picturing doctors smoking and saying things like, "Smoking's good for you...it helps you relax." Many real-life doctors smoked. When I was a boy (during the Jurassic) almost everyone smoked. Kids started smoking early (12, 13, some younger) and it became a lifelong addition and death-sentence.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 06:00 AM
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52. I still have that jingle in my head, Winston Tastes Good, Like A Cigarette Should!
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 09:14 AM
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68. That's AS a cigarette should n/t
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tilsammans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 10:53 AM
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76. "What do you want? Good grammar, or good taste?"
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 05:02 PM
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133. Don't think so.. I have a collection of old time radio shows..
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 06:22 AM
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141. The "AS a cigarette should" thing started in the '60s, I believe.
As tilsammans pointed out, the punchline was, "What do you want, good grammar, or good taste?"

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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 08:26 PM
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139. Check post 138 to link of many television videos. n/t
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 07:13 AM
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57. And some will live long enough to see studies confirming the benfits of smoking.
Did you ever think you'd see studies confirming 2-3 drinks a day were good for the heart?
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 08:18 AM
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62. Nicotine yes. Smoking no.
Since nicotine has been found to help prevent Alzheimer's we are probably already entering the medicinal-nicotine era.

But *smoking* itself will almost surely never be found to have health benefits.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 10:28 AM
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73. It's one drink, not 2-3. 2-3 is the beginnings of alcoholism.
And the benefits of 1 drink a day were suspected for decades before studies were done. Studies are done on smoking. Inhaling burning matter is confirmed to be bad for you in any amount. This will Not change.

But enjoy your Sleeper fantasy.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 10:44 AM
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75. Thank you "King of the Universe"....now off to my ignore list where you belong with the rest of
the DU members that cannot recognize satire without the tag !
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 07:51 AM
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58. I can remember when doctors did their rounds at the hospital with a cig hanging out of their mouth
Plain as day.

Don
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 09:46 AM
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72. shit, I remember that and nurses at nursing stations smoking and women in labour smoking
in the hospital..dayum !
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 08:23 AM
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63. This comes to mind.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 09:25 AM
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69. A couple of other places I wish they'd ban smoking...
UPS and USPS delivery trucks.

Or at least put a divider in between the front and back.


I'm tired of getting mail and packages that stink from cigarette smoke. My mail lady smokes like a fiend and she brought a package yesterday that reeked. It was nauseating.

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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 04:28 AM
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118. I ordered a hard-to-find out-of-print book which sadly had been owned by a heavy smoker. Gack.
At least with stinky library books I can take them back in a week, but this one that I bought was too special to want to send back. It's sad.

Hekate

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SocratesInSpirit Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 10:57 AM
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128. Had a similar situation...
Did you try spritzing the pages with a little febreeze? Sounds unorthodox, but I did that once with a used book I bought that reeked of cigarette smoke, and it worked pretty well.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 02:16 PM
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129. Never thought of that, but now that my mind has turned to solutions, how about dry baking soda?
If there was any acid used in whitening the paper, this couldn't hurt -- and since the photos are all b/w, I wouldn't worry about harming any tipped-in color plates or such. Hmmm.

Thanks.

Hekate
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 10:32 AM
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74. Hell I remember in the 90s when any gas station you went into people were smoking.
There was a smoking section in every restaurant. I worked at Burger King until 2001 and it was about three or four months before I quit when they said you could no longer smoke inside. Fast Food places are small and you could smoke in them.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 11:07 AM
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78. this thread cracks me up-we sound like a bunch of old farts...
..talking about the good old days(And yes,I smoked like a chimney for years)
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 10:02 PM
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105. Kinda neat, though in a way, isn't it?
I mean, to be able to remember shit the younger generation doesn't.


"Yeah, baby...we LIVED it!!!!"

:7

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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 11:09 AM
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79. DOCTOR RECOMMENDED-CHRISTMAS BOX-BLOWING SMOKE IN HER FACE-FAGS?
Edited on Sat Mar-13-10 11:18 AM by L0oniX
Here's why your not picking up women anymore...I guess it really wasn't that fact that you are one ugly mofo.


I had a heart surgeon that smoked too back in 1958...My bet is he's dead by now.


Seems to me these would be very hard to smoke in the conventional way.


Because Christmas is the time of giving...lung cancer.


Now for a heart attack all you need to add is...


Lard Information Council? as in "You've been reported to the LIC"?
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 11:32 AM
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82. The "Have a Fag" and "Lard Information Council" ads are fakes.
Edited on Sat Mar-13-10 11:40 AM by Berry Cool
I mean, come on. Those were deliberately created to look like something naive from the '50s, so that people who get a charge out of laughing at naive '50s advertising would laugh at them. They go just a little TOO far to be realistic.

Ed to add: Did a little research and found out that both those ads are from a British comic magazine called Viz. Yet they've been jumbled up with a bunch of real ads (like the others above) and all passed off as "real" past ads. Not surprising.
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bikebloke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 02:33 PM
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87. Not allowed on school grounds.
So in high school, the smokers would go across the street.

I had a part time job in a movie theater (the Centre Theatre on Quaker Lane in Alexandria for you locals). People couldn't smoke in the auditorium, but would come out during the show for a smoke. A few wasted their money, standing out in the lobby longer than the movies were long.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 05:42 PM
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90. They were allowed at my high school
I attended RJ Reynolds High School.

Not kidding.

For once.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 05:45 PM
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91. My first year in college, they had ashtrays in every room and a big honking one full of sand in the
tv room/common area. I didn't smoke myself, but my roommate that first year did - like a proverbial chimney.

The smoke never bothered me much; it was just something you got used to. What I wonder is how can people afford to smoke anymore? I saw an advertised "special" for cigarettes the other day at a convenience store and they were going for $5.80 a pack! The price alone would keep me smoke-free these days.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 07:16 PM
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97. The community college I went to allowed smoking
in the hallways.

It was where I nearly burned off my bangs as I went to light a cigarette (in the very olden days when I used to smoke) and the lighter flame was set too high.


I was glad it didn't set off the smoke alarms.

:7

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imnKOgnito Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 06:38 PM
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94. I remember
Smoking on airplanes, smoking areas in high schools (even though the legal age to buy ciggies was 18), smoking in restaurants, bars, doctors offices, hospitals... hell, I even remember a guy that regularly lit up in the vestibule at church.

Since I'm only 46, this really wasn't all that long ago. Most of this was still legal when I was in my 20's.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 07:22 PM
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99. Yep, I do.
Now that I think about it, everything stunk of tobacco and there was a yellow slime coating all the walls and places that didn't get dusted and shined. When you took down wall hangings there was a big imprint of it left on the wall that the tobacco smoke hadn't reached. When I tended bar, I was constantly emptying and cleaning ash trays.
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The Midway Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 07:37 PM
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100. I went to high school in Kansas.
We had an outside student smoking lounge in 1980.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 09:59 PM
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104. There was this older lady in the grocery store riding around on
one of those cart buggies smoking a cigarette. I thought, oh you can't do that. I felt like tattling, but I never did. I wondered how often she does that. Surely someone asked her to put it out. You just don't see that anymore these days. People know that you can't smoke in those places anymore. Especially now that smoking bans are all over the place. Had I had my daughter with me, I would have definitely asked her to do away with the cig, but I was in a hurry and actually shocked by it.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 10:44 PM
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110. I recall teeve commercials citing what percentage of doctors recommended Kent cigarettes.
It was the good ol' Micronite Filter that caused all them docs to endorse them.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 10:44 PM
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111. Yep. It was a Golden Age
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likesmountains 52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 10:50 PM
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112. In 1980 I had a collapsed lung and a chest tube...and was allowed to smoke in my hospital bed!
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 10:51 PM
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113. In france you used to be able to smoke in school. I do remember being able to smoke
in movie theatres.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 11:16 PM
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116. When I think back on it as a former 3 pack a day smoker, the amazing part is that people
felt it was absolutely and unequivocally their god-given right to smoke anywhere and anytime. I was one of those people, I'm sad to say, but I was lucky enough to stop after 19 years.

Now I can smell a smoker twenty or thirty feet away, and especially if they regularly smoke in their vehicle. At my workplace there are only three non-smokers out of eleven workers.

Having grown up in North Carolina in the heart of the tobacco growing belt--we bragged that we had the most tobacco warehouses in the world-- I am glad that things have changed so much. Even in those old tobacco towns most folks are glad to have no-smoking policies in effect.

Congrats on the Kansas smoking ban.

Rec.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 04:43 AM
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119. I LIVE here - it's called LAS VEGAS!!!
When I go into California, the people look funny at me when I ask for the non-smoking section...they're ALL non-smoking they tell me with strange looks!!!

It's a habit I'll have to live with...
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Retrograde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 02:57 PM
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132. we refer to Nevada asCalifornia's smoking section (n/t)
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 05:32 AM
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121. ashtrays at Burger King and McDonalds, cigarette vending machines outside Dunkin Donuts
late 70s tween memories...


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gleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 06:14 AM
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122. I do remember it ...
and I was so glad to see it go. I nearly coughed up a lung once because of second hand smoke. I was in a hospital. I was in a hospital for a broncosopy of a spot on my lung. I was already coughing blood from the procedure, so you can imagine what the smoke did.

It was way out of control. I like a smoke free environment much better.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 06:58 AM
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124. Those were the days!
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 07:16 AM
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125. One of my worse memories was from a special vacation in 1986.
We hadn't had a vacation in years and had never gone anywhere really special, so we booked a trip to Maui. It was a BIG deal for us. Everything was fine until we boarded a plane at O'Hare and got stuck in the first row behind the smoking section on a completely full flight. It was about 9 hours of sheer hell. By the time we landed we stunk to high heaven and could barely breathe.
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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 07:49 AM
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126. I had knee surgery in '77
and I smoked in my bed...got caught with a joint, heard one nurse tell them that "it was therapeutic and if I did it at home it was alright to do it here."
Someone came in and I apologized and said I wouldn't do it again...I went into the bathroom after that.
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 02:23 PM
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130. I remember those days well. They were awesome.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 02:39 PM
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131. Smoking has been banned from all workplaces here in CA for years.
Bars/clubs got a special dispensation for a while, but not now. I think the only businesses you can smoke inside of now are smoke shops, lol.

I sure don't miss the bad old days.
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sylvi Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 06:49 PM
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134. Smokin' in the boys room da- da da-da da-da da-da
LOL Like the old Brownsville Station song.

We had a system of lookouts that would knock on the window when a teacher was coming. We'd puff on the cigarette so hard and fast, trying to smoke it quickly, that it would have an inch-long coal on the end. It was called "hotboxing."
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 07:06 PM
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136. I have an ash tray from a Cancer hospital
I kid you not.
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 08:25 PM
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138. I well remember television cigarette ads, about the best television ads
ever made.

You can still view many of them at this site:

Tobacco Videos
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 08:36 PM
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140. In the same vein, most kickass racecar liveries too
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