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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 09:19 PM
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Tired of gender discrimination?
Norrie, 48, has become NSW's first officially androgynous person on the issuance of a certificate that says Sex: Not Specified.





''I think there are a lot of people who would like to have this kind of certificate and not just people who are physically different. Many women would like to have them because sex can so often lead to discrimination.''

http://www.theage.com.au/nsw/sexless-in-the-city-a-gender-revolution-20100311-q1l2.html

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I like this concept. I hope it catches on
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 09:39 PM
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1. His DNA and birth parts says he's a dude.
He can convince himself and authorities that he's "androgynous", but that is a psychological issue, not a physical fact.
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Synicus Maximus Donating Member (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 09:59 PM
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2. last I checked there were 2 sexes, male and female. It has nothing
to do with sexual preference, but only what sex a person is. Even transgender people pick one sex or the other.
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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 10:19 PM
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3. So does it worry you
that Norrie has chosen to identify with neither? Personally I like it when social conventions are challenged; the old rules are thrown out.
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KitSileya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 03:00 AM
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10. Except all the intersex persons out there
who have XXY chromosomes, (or any other number of chromosome mixes) or androgen resistance, or hermaphrodites, and so on. People who would lose an inherent part of themselves should they "pick a gender" or worse, should their parents and doctors pick one for them while they're children.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 10:21 PM
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4. Sex is a biological factor. It is not socially determined.
And yes, there are more than two biological sexes.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 10:24 PM
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5. I think it's better to have everyone answer the same RACE rather that this...
In fact, I've seen someone talk at junior colleges in the past purporting that we should all do this. She was rather convincing we should all answer African descent.
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 10:32 PM
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6. Unless your name is "Pat"
Most names are going to give away your sex, anyway.
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 10:53 PM
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8. I respectfully disagree.
Especially in the US, where all sorts of backgrounds and naming traditions co-exist - it's often hard to know how to pronounce a name, let alone know whether it belongs to a male or female.

In the last week alone I have met the following caucazoid Americans - all over 30 years old.

Kareen (A male pronounced the same as Karen)
Seeburn (a male pronounced SEE-burn)
Tilikar (a female pronounced tee-a-KAR)
Amanda (a male who pronounces it al-MOND)
Melanie (a female who pronounces it ma-LANE-ee)
Charlie (a female who's given name is Charlotte but she pronounces this CAR-lee)


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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 02:34 AM
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9. I said "most" names will give away one's gender
Do you honestly think more than half the names in America are that hard to figure out?
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 10:39 PM
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7. No he/she/it anymore? "Mike ate a donut. Mike liked it so much Mike ate another one."
sounds like a 1st grade reader or a WWE rassler..........


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