Proposed New Forum Group: "Socialist Progressives."

[Tyler Durden]

Skinner has OK'd new forum group, pending completion of this procedure:


1. Start one discussion thread in the forum of your choice to tell people about your idea for a DU Group.

2. In that thread, you must get responses from at least ten DU members who agree to be active participants in the suggested DU Group. All ten members to respond must have donor stars.

3. In that thread, members must agree on a proposed mission statement for the DU Group.

After this happens, there are other things: emailing skinner, getting final approval, but he seems OK on this so far.

SO. Anyone else with me, or do I have to start playing "The Internationale" non-stop?

My suggestions for a Mission Statement: To link Socialist ideas and suggestions for political change to a Progressive framework, with the end result being positive and forward looking discussion and solidarity.

Or is that just so much bullshit?

[Tyler Durden]

1. Hey, I lobbied pretty hard for this...

If only 1% of DU has Socialist leanings, that's 1000 posters. I only need 10 with stars. C'MON.

[katsy]

14. Keep this kicked.

:kick:

[meegbear]

2. I thought we were an autonomous collective?

:shrug:

[angstlessk]

4. megabear...is that a yes? you support? n/t

[meegbear]

12. Sure, what the hell ...

count me in

[angstlessk]

3. I support such a group..and I have a star..but I do not post very often

I recon I am a voyer..or a reader as I like to call myself. I do not feel I have a lot to offer to the conversation. But I do have a theory that is very socialistic regarding how people should be paid..

[whistle]

5. Sounds great

[loveandlight]

6. I like the idea

I don't post much, mostly read also, but I am definitely interested in a socialist/progressive framework. Maybe I would post more in here than otherwise. I love reading other posts on this subject. So I hope it is a go...

[LostinVA]

7. That mission statement is fine by me

I'm a Democratic Socialist (card-carrying!).

I would participate in this group.

[kestrel91316]

8. I'm sort of a Social Progressive.

Less "radical"? Don't ask me to explain the difference. Maybe it's just one of perception......

[Tyler Durden]

33. That works.

Call this "Socialist Lite."

Nobody here is ready for a TRULY egalitarian society: too many die-hard Adam Smith Capitalists.

[kestrel91316]

38. I have a question for these folks:

"....die-hard Adam Smith Capitalists...."

How's that working out for ya??? (in my best Dr. Phil imitation voice)

[mainegreen]

9. I'd bookmark it.

Participation would depend on how the threads went.
Yay socialism!

[katsy]

10. I'm a Socialist/Progressive Democrat and am definately interested.

:kick:

[IChing]

11. I nominated this thread and would bookmark it too N/T

[jgraz]

13. I'd be interested

Time for the socialist majority to stand up!

[mikelgb]

I am unfortunately of the opinion that DU has too many groups

[Madspirit]

18. Ummm

No one will make you join. I love people who don't want something so no one else can have it either...
Lee

[mainegreen]

25. I am unfortunately of the group that believes DU has too many opinions.

:P

[mikelgb]

30. lol

btw I don't think that your groups hould not exist nor am I trying to disuade you from you effort, merely stated my reason why I won't support the effort

[MuseRider]

15. Yup, I would go for it.

I know I have been leaning this way for a long time, it is time to learn and figure out where I fit because right now I have no clue except that I am a left liberal who is having a difficult time dealing with everything going on in both parties. **big breath** I would certainly support it.

[Dhalgren]

16. I'm a dirty, rotten commie, pinko, so yeah, I'm in!

We are with you Comrade!

[Madspirit]

17. K&R and another star!!! n/t

[KillCapitalism]

19. I'll join up.

Another socialist checking in right here.

[deutsey]

20. I'd participate in the group.

Sorry, though, for not having a star. I've been an active member here since 2001 and have, at various times, had a star.

[endarkenment]

21. Sounds like a good idea to me.

I would participate.

[Rainscents]

22. Count me in!

I believe everything Senator, Bernie Sanders believes in!

[entanglement]

23. Count me in, comrade

:)

[libnnc]

24. Yeppers

:thumbsup:

[petunia.here]

26. K&R

obviously, I don't post much and I don't think I have my star any longer however, this part of the dem party is the only part holding me in the dem party.
If that makes sense?

I used to think that progressives were the base of the dem party but that was when I was young and new to politics. ;) Silly me.

So, yeah, I like your idea.

[petunia.here]

27. oooOOoooo, I do still have my star. :) nm

[JVS]

28. Orthodox Socialism, or I like to have good public benefits and pretend it's Socialism?

[Tyler Durden]

34. As orthodox as we can get without getting tombstoned....

You think most of those folks out there are READY for REAL Socialism?

I think not, and they still think SOCIALISM=SOVIET COMMUNISM.

Let's be GENTLE with these folks.

[w4rma]

29. What? No. (nt)

[IndyOp]

31. I would suggest...

Adding to your mission statement: and following events in countries with successful socialist policies.

Also, work in something about Democracy in the title of the forum or the mission statement. Too, too many lurkers won't understand that democracy & socialism go just great together! Like cookies and milk, chocolate and peanut butter!

:hi:

The last picture of Che alive:

[Tyler Durden]

35. Done. will update and add to the end as a post.

[yardwork]

32. I'll participate.

[Madspirit]

36. You have all you need now, right?...n/t

[Tyler Durden]

37. FINAL MISSION STATEMENT (maybe?)

To link Socialist ideas and suggestions for political change to a Progressive framework in a Democratic Society, with the end result being positive and forward looking discussion and solidarity. We will follow events in countries with successful Socialist Policies with believe will work for the United States.


How about that?

I'll look for comments in an hour or so, then send the thread to Skinner.

[JVS]

39. What about eliminating private ownership of the means of production?

or at least ownership of the commanding heights of the economy?

[camero]

50. That's communism

Socialism at it's farthest advocates eliminating private ownership of natural resources. Not the means of production.

The means of production being employee-owned and elections of executives and board members.

[Selatius]

51. Ah, industrial co-ops.

In general, the best I could describe a situation where half or even most workers work in co-ops both big and small is some form of market socialism.

[Tyler Durden]

52. Kind of think that's a "given"

but remember we're trying not to get tombstoned. some people are just going to take more time to get used to the possibility.

[omega minimo]

45. Better make it a Group

"with the end result being positive and forward looking discussion and solidarity."

[tlsmith1963]

40. I Want This

I may not be a socialist yet, but if I have to keep putting up with arrogant, uncaring conservatives I just might consider joining up.

[Mika]

41. Great way to round up all the Socialist Progressives into a small area. That way..

.. the LBNers and GD/GDPers don't have to put up with all of the embarassing socialist talk.

:+

[Tyler Durden]

53. They don't listen anyway....

This way we can plot and plan in private, comrade!

[rug]

42. I'm in as long as you kick out the Mensheviks.

[omega minimo]

43. Why not Progressive Democrats?

[JanMichael]

44. I would say yes.

"TNS" could be the forum name.

http://www.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/

[eridani]

46. Fine by me

I've never thought that socialism has to mean ownership of the means of production by some government. Why not just make it illegal for anybody to own anybody else's means of production?

[Ishoutandscream2]

47. Hear, hear! And happy May Day, ya'll!!!

[camero]

48. Chalk up another one

I'm in.:thumbsup:

[Selatius]

49. Can we start Fight Club?

Seriously, I wouldn't mind a little representation for socialists/anarcho-socialists here.

[Tyler Durden]

54. We've got a big tent.

Remember the name here.

[Tyler Durden]

55. Hoping we get approved on MAY DAY.

What could be more appropriate?

[Greyhound]

56. I'm definitely in, and the "final" statement is fine, although you might want to proof read it

before finalizing.

I have lots of ideas and would really appreciate some constructive criticism, and who knows, maybe somebody will think they are good ideas.