Bush's abstinence chief busted for prostitution

[murdoch]

http://www.slate.com/id/2165259/?nav=fix

ABC News and the Washington Post are reporting that Deputy Secretary of State Randall Tobias resigned April 27 after confirming to ABC News that he's on Jeane Palfrey's little list. Palfrey is a D.C. madam under prosecution who's been negotiating with lawyers for various prominent johns over whether to release their names to the public. Tobias is administrator of the State Department's foreign aid programs.
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Tobias is the Bush administration's leading advocate of abstinence-only programs abroad.



Here's what Tobias told PBS' Frontline...:

Well, the heart of our prevention programs is what's known as ABC: abstinence, be faithful, and the correct and consistent use of condoms when appropriate. This is not an American invention; this is something that President Museveni in Uganda figured out over time when he recognized that there was an enormous problem in Uganda.

And it's also not "ABC: Take your pick." It's abstinence really focused heavily on young people and getting them to understand that the best way to keep from getting infected is to be abstinent and not engage in sexual activity until they are old enough and mature enough and get into a committed relationship, such as a marriage.

[liberal N proud]

1. Your headline tells much more than anything you see in the MSM

These hypocrites are just keep going on thinking no one will ever expose the bull shit.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

20. No, the story has been in front of the Washington Post, among others...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/28/AR2007042801192.html?hpid=topnews

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/29/us/29escort.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

[liberal N proud]

35. It is the way it is written that tells the story that the other headlines don't

And the simple people of the country will not go past the headline.

[bluerum]

2. This would be funny if it weren't so sick. eom

[formercia]

3. Do as I say, not as I do.

Is this surprising?

[file83]

43. Do as I say, not WHO I do...

mmm...nah, didn't sound as good as I thought it would...

[Eugene]

4. Abstinence before marriage, fidelity in marriage, and prostitutes if you don't get caught.

As bluerum said in reply #2, "This would be funny if it weren't so sick."

K & R

[jwirr]

5. I like your headline! LOL

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

6. You just can't make this stuff up.

:rofl:

[wtmusic]

7. He and Bill Bennett are proof that Republicans are far superior

to anything Democrats can offer--in terms of rank hypocrisy.

[wtmusic]

8. Like ordering pizza

"Ross added new details to that story tonight, recounting how he asked Tobias in a telephone interview “if he knew any of the young women, their names. He said he didn’t remember them at all. He said it was like ordering pizza.”

http://thinkprogress.org/

[UpInArms]

10. women have been regarded as chattel forever - now we are also thought of as

"pizza"?????

:grr:

[UpInArms]

11. more on Tobias' "women as pizza" comment

from the OP's link:

quoting Tobias:

They just have no idea about that. In some countries in Africa, it's well above 50 percent that are women and girls. In many cases this is driven by cultural factors, where young girls are having sex with older men and coerced to do that, where women aren't regarded as equal citizens with men. So there are lots of things that need to be done addressing those kinds of cultural issues also.

Women as PIZZA??????

[UpInArms]

12. did Tobias, when ordering his "pizza", ask: Will it be hot when it arrives?

:nuke:

[Wetzelbill]

27. will it have all the toppings?

Ok that one didn't even make sense. :)

[AnnieBW]

41. There's an anchovy joke here somewhere...

but it would be too crude, even for DU. :evilgrin:

[Wetzelbill]

67. kudos for your restraint

I like a little crudeness from time to time, but I think that's why I seem to get in trouble around here. :)

[wtmusic]

18. I guess I'll unblock ABC for this show

Then ABC/Disney is back on the caca list, until they decide to run an accurate doc titled, "The Path to Iraq"...

[AnotherMother4Peace]

22. ABC/Disney is on my "Do not patronize" list for their damaging lies.

Their role in that piece of crap movie (I can't even remember the title) pinning the Iraq war on Clinton, was very telling.

[Wetzelbill]

26. wow, that is effed up

I might have to do some writing on that.

[Cabcere]

70. Scuuuuuuuuuuuuuumbag

scumbag, scumbag, scumbag. :grr: :banghead: :nuke:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

9. This is too frigging funny! BTW....

When is he checking into rehab?

:rofl:

[Beetwasher]

13. "Bareback" Toby

n/t

[donco6]

14. Here in Colorado . . .

we just had a big fight in the legislature over "abstinence-only" versus "abstinence plus" in public school curriculum. I wish this had come out earlier - would have been an amazing counterpoint to the fundie position here. Ha!

BTW, abstinence plus won the day.

[scarface2004]

15. with a face like that...you d have to buy sex too!!

leave the man alone...

[slampoet]

37. Are you saying he's so ugly his right hand rejects him?

[usregimechange]

16. Here are the quotes from ABC...

A senior Bush Administration official, Deputy Secretary of State Randall L. Tobias, who "was criticized by some for emphasizing faithfulness and abstinence over condom use to prevent the spread of AIDS" recently resigned "one day after confirming to ABC News that he had been a customer of a Washington, D.C. escort service whose owner has been charged by federal prosecutors with running a prostitution operation."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/04/senior_official.html

[Laughing Mirror]

23. The brilliant Dr. Rice (his superior) has an uncanny grasp on the roles Randy plays

At an April 18 speech, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice praised Tobias' work. "Randy Tobias has indeed had many roles in his life, but none more important than the roles he's played in government, where he has been someone who has been most involved in organizing America's compassion to the world."

That's it. America's compassion to the world. Randy's role in it. Those "Central American girls" are part of his research to help spread that compassion.

[JTFrog]

62. Just like obgyn's....

Bush's people have to be able to spread their... love.... to women all over the world.

edited to add my fav video link:

http://www.devilducky.com/media/19234/

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

17. Like "is" I guess it depends on the definition of "abstinance".

[KoKo]

19. Great Subject Line...and it's the way the Media should be reporting it...

but alas they gave that kind of headline up when Clinton left office. Headlines like that are reserved by the Whore Press for Democrats Only. :-(

[BeFree]

21. Well, Think About It

These guys get paid to sit around thinking about how people go about getting pregnant.

Think about it.

They sit around thinking about sex all day. What do you expect?

[Wetzelbill]

24. What exactly was he getting "massaged" anyway?

"Abstinence chief"

This is kind of like "Clean Air" and "Healthy Forests" I would presume.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

25. we should know ALL the details

these people should be setting an example. Just shows how sordid and corrupt the Bush admin is.

[Wetzelbill]

28. Like the Starr Report aka glorified Penthouse Forum Report

Yes, I would be curious to see just how many investigations would bear fruit with the Bush Administration. These clowns are rotten to the core. And can you believe they sneered and insinuated about how the "grown ups" were now in charge? What a joke. And a criminal one at that.

[sellitman]

29. The do as I say....... not as I do party.

A scandal a day party?

The hypocrisy party?

The party is over party is more like it.

[Coexist]

30. it knows no bounds.

no bounds.

[WindRavenX]

31. LMAO!!!

:rofl: :rofl:

Ohhh...the irony!!!!

[ecstatic]

32. lmmfao

OMG :rofl:

[TheBaldyMan]

33. You couldn't make it up. un - fucking- believeable n/t

[porphyrian]

34. What?! A complete hypocrite in this administration?!

:eyes:

[file83]

45. Ted Haggert: Part Deux

These guys have taken hypocrisy to a hole new level. (omg, did I say just that?)

[porphyrian]

69. Ooo, that's bad...

Heh, heh.

[Gregorian]

36. Weel gawlllly! Surprise...Surprise.

You authoritarian phonies.

[moodforaday]

38. An odd aspect of the story

quoting after Crooks & Liars, from the ABC report:

. . .the women who work for the service, David, include university professors, legal secretaries, scientists, military officers."
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/04/28/white-house-officials-involved-in-prostitution-scandal/

Doesn't that give anyone a pause?

[EVDebs]

42. Enjoy our donuts and prostitutes (new CIA/GOP fundraising slogan)

The 'story' is already a year old, but...

"It's all part of a growing ongoing investigation into corruption in defense and intelligence contracts, which already has sent former Rep. Randy “Duke” Cunningham to prison and, legal sources say, may threaten others in Congress and the CIA. "

FBI probes Watergate prostitution allegations
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12634250/

[file83]

47. Do you think that was a mistake?

I doubt the prostitutes were university professors, legal secretaries, scientists, military officers, etc.

They must have meant that the "johns" had those occupations. Right?

[FloridaJudy]

63. Do you know what they pay University professors?

I wouldn't be at all surprised to find a few moon-lighting to pay the grocery bills. "Send over the hot babe who quotes Kafka. That's such a turn-on..."

[Vidar]

39. More poetic justice.

[MN ChimpH8R]

40. These klowns literally write our material for us

That it is so unsurprising is itself surprising.

:rofl:

[slackmaster]

46. I had pretty much the same reaction

There's no need to even try to write satire about them.

[file83]

48. What's the next headline(?): "Bush Is a Member of Al-Qaeda"

At this point, I'd be like, "Well, doesn't surprise me!"

[wicket]

44. K & R

:kick:

[Olney Blue]

49. Horny, you're doing a heckuva job.

[vickitulsa]

50. I reeelly hope the true irony and hypocrisy of the story will be noted at some point

by the Corporate Media whores -- compelled, as usual, to "dig deeper" and tell the "whole truth" (or at least more of the truth than they wanted to reveal) by the alternate media and other folks who are actually awake!

I've been reading articles for over a year, at the very least, about sex scandals these Bu$h criminals are involved in, though of course most Americans aren't aware of them because the CM doesn't inform them.

I figure someday one of the many dirty secrets this maladministration is known for -- you know, historically -- will be the hypocrisy of their public stands on sexual issues.

Something like this, maybe:

"All the while the Bush administration officials were proclaiming that 'abstinence is best,' many of them were engaging in illicit sex in one form or the other. Their hypocrisy on this issue alone reached monumental proportions before the entire lot of crooks and creeps left office forever. Of course, other people a lot more decent than the Bu$h officials were left to pick up the pieces of America's broken legislative structure, in this as in all other respects."

I first heard of Tobias' resignation on NPR yesterday morning, but I don't recall hearing one word about the hypocrisy aspect. That's another of the results of Bu$hCo's corrupting of every institution and organization they could get their nasty hands on -- the gutting of NPR and PBS.

It's like they are doing everything they can to defile as many areas of American life and law as they can before they are fully exposed and thrown out on their sorry asses.

I hope their sorry hypocritical asses end up, when all is said and done, in prison, where they belong!

[blondie58]

58. well said, Vickiintulsa!

but I am still wondering about Jeff Gannon- that gay male prostitute/reporter. Who used his services? Nothing has been said about him- and I don't think it was Laura who used his services. Has anyone heard any more about him? Funny, if this had been the Clinton WH, this story wouldn't have died the way it did.

[vickitulsa]

64. Thanks, Blondie; and yes, I've wondered about the details of the Jeff Gannon story, too.

Truth is, I had never even heard the name Jeff Gannon until I joined DU a couple of years ago!

And I'm a pretty well-informed citizen, in general, so I knew right off that most of us were in the dark completely about this Gannon story. I know that every time I mention it to people I encounter, they don't have a clue what I'm talking about -- and some seem to think I'm making it up.

Maybe that sorry tale, too, will one day be known to all, in its full nasty detail.

If I could write a one-line summary of the Bu$h maladministration, I think it would run something like this:

"Lies, Hypocrisy and War Profiteering -- hallmarks of the administration that was supposed to 'restore dignity to the White House.'"

I hope whatever comes next, we the people can at least lift our heads a bit, after feeling we should hang them in shame and embarrassment for all these years....

[orleans]

51. ironic ain't it? (or should i say par for the course, or typical, or figures) n/t

[NNN0LHI]

52. He was just talking to the girls. Er, ah, I mean he was doing research. Thats it. Research

Researching how to reduce prostitution. And, and, abstinence. He was doing research on how best to increase abstinence at the same time. Thats what he was doing I betcha.

Don

[Warren DeMontague]

53. So how about we stop blowing taxpayer money BOTH on bullshit "abstinence" education

AND on fighting things like prostitution, porn and drug use by and for consenting adults?

[qdemn7]

61. You must be joking..

That will never happen it makes too much sense. :evilgrin: Even some people who label themselves "progressive" are against porn and prostitution.

[ninkasi]

54. Just one more Republic hypocrite

This country is full of them. They love to dictate moral behavior to the rest of us, but don't DARE expect them to live up to the codes they establish for the rest of us. What a fucking disgusting bunch of lowlifes. I hope we not only take the presidency in 2008, but both houses of Congress by huge margins. Maybe then we can clean things up. Obviously, the longer Republics are in power, the worse things get for the rest of us, and the more corruption we uncover.

[ClayZ]

55. Bwahahahha! K and R

[DefenseLawyer]

56. Sex can wait!

Until your credit card is approved.

[Babsbrain]

57. $206 M for abstinence programs in FY2006 Budget

"While slashing funding for local schools, food stamps and health care for veterans, President Bush’s FY 2006 budget would increase spending on abstinence-only-unless-married education programs by $39 million, bringing the total request for these programs to $206 million in federal funds."

USAID has been linked with the CIA for a long time. Abstinence.programs..yeah right!

[Algorem]

59. Hey,you get horny talking about abstinence all day.Give the guy

a break.A sex break.Hot,nasty dirty sweaty sex break(sounds of heavy breathing and porno music).

[Hubert Flottz]

60. Is that "Woody" Tobias Jr?

The horror Movie star?(from the old sctv)

[The Count]

65. What a delicious headline!

[Roland99]

66. Is he going to pull a James Bakker?

[cgrindley]

68. Republicans will always have one great advantage over democrats

it is unimportant to them whether or not they actually believe in the shit they sell to the public. To them, it's only about power.

[liberalEd]

71. I would so love to be shocked by this kind of thing

But shrub has really raised the bar for what I find shocking any more.

I actually expect that this administration's abstinence-only pusher would be a perv.