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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 04:53 PM Original message |
Underage drinking? Colleges may tell mom, dad |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
1. The ACLU should be fighting this |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 05:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I';d have thought the restriction on adult drinking would be of more concern |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 10:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. I think the point DJ13 was making is that this is a privacy issue. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 11:13 AM Response to Reply #19 |
91. there is an express exception to FERPA that allows this sort of disclosure |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 05:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. not when it comes to drinking - that is still 21 |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 12:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
50. So? That doesn't mean they are under the control of their parents. eom |
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lame54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
95. But who is footing the bill? |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
2. Sending notes home to mommy and daddy? |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
5. So why weren't Cho's parents informed when he was going psycho--BEFORE he shot 33 kids? |
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t0dd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
6. How about just lowering the drinking age to 18 instead? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 05:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. we are going the other way |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 07:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Hell yeah. There's no evidence that a higher drinking age helped much |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 10:08 AM Response to Reply #6 |
42. America seems to like the Islamic way better. -nt |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 04:27 AM Response to Reply #6 |
111. The DRIVING age in most of the industrialized world is 18. |
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3waygeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
8. Seems pretty unnecessary to me... |
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liberal_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
9. I would want to be notified especially if my kid were binge drinking |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 10:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
25. Should they tell you if she sleeps around or drives dangerously, too? |
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liberal_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 10:41 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Good then when she does make a mistake I won't get a phone call asking me for bail will I? |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 10:53 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Hell, I don't know. Draw boundaries with your own adult child. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
10. If the parents are footing the bill, they have every right to know how |
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verdalaven (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 10:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. As a parent footing the bill |
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liberal_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 10:31 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I have been taking classes at a community college |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 10:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
27. Wrong. If they don't want to pay then they shouldn't pay. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 07:52 AM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Wrong back atcha. How many times have we read, right here on |
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liberal_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #33 |
45. Right. As parents we pay for their education not their recreation |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Agreed. nt |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 01:31 PM Response to Reply #45 |
58. Exactly. She's Not Allowed To Have Any Fun Until She Has To Go To Work To Earn a Living For Herself |
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liberal_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Well good for you |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 03:03 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. I may be biased, but |
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liberal_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 03:07 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. where is the consequence for the boy in this situation? |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 03:18 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Yeah, it's very sad. |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 06:45 AM Response to Reply #70 |
113. probably better to have written |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 12:33 PM Response to Reply #58 |
94. apparently your only concept of having fun = drunken sex. |
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liberal_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 12:52 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. I am under no illusions when it comes to my children |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. That's Clearly The Way You Believe Your Children Define It. |
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liberal_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 01:06 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Why are so nasty to everybody? |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. Moi? Nasty? I Am the Soul of Gentility. In Fact, I Learned To Be Gracious In College. |
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liberal_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Well try to remember that when you have a daughter |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 02:03 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. I Can Assure You That There's No Chance Of Me Having a Daughter |
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liberal_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 02:16 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. You seem to assume to know alot about the way I parent |
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liberal_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 03:40 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. she's strong willed and an independent thinker too and also an atheist |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 01:29 PM Response to Reply #33 |
57. If You Don't Trust Your Child Enough To Pay For His Education, Then Don't Pay For His Education. |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 10:36 AM Response to Reply #57 |
87. Oh bullshit. Even the lottery comes with terms and conditions. |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 11:10 AM Response to Reply #87 |
90. That's Exactly What I Said. |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 11:26 AM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Uh no, it isn't. College has a right to their terms and so do parents if they so wish. |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 12:26 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. I Didn't Say Parents Didn't Have the Right To Set Terms For Their Adult Children |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #93 |
99. Yer funny. I blame a culture & system that raised you to believe your ass should be kissed 24/7. |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 01:46 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. I Absolutely Agree. And Over-Parenting, Which Is What You're Suggesting, Is Responsible For That. |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 04:27 PM Response to Reply #102 |
107. I Think Someone Is Owed A Refund For Your Eng. Comp. I&II Classes, |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. Too Bad Your Kids Can't Get a Refund On Your Parenting |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 03:18 AM Response to Reply #108 |
110. And I would giggle my ass off if you settled down with Mr. Right and had a six pack of assholes who |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 08:28 PM Response to Reply #33 |
77. And how are other people's arguments on DU relevant to what I'm arguing now? |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 06:37 AM Response to Reply #33 |
112. there are people who NEVER get completely formed thinking capabilities |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 01:19 PM Response to Reply #27 |
53. Yes, but while they're "adults", they're also legally still "dependents" |
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liberal_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 02:53 PM Response to Reply #53 |
64. +1 |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 08:33 PM Response to Reply #53 |
78. I don't have a problem with most of what you've said: |
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Flying Dream Blues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 03:07 PM Response to Reply #27 |
69. Sorry for the digression, but that picture! I love it! |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 08:33 PM Response to Reply #69 |
79. Haha I do too! Search Google Images for obama cowboy hat |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 02:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
63. I tend to agree with this. |
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maxsolomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #10 |
66. 18 year olds are not "underage" |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 04:55 PM Response to Reply #66 |
76. So, for this one exception, they are "underage", and their drinking |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
11. Unrec...not to you, but to the Administration at Virginia Tech |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
12. And the infantilization of American Youth continues. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #12 |
74. yeah, 'cuz those college students who get shitfaced all the time are such |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 10:05 PM Response to Reply #74 |
81. In most societies in history people are considered adults at 15. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 09:40 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. so? n/t |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 10:38 AM Response to Reply #81 |
88. And they died before 40 but that's not really relevant here and now. |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
14. What? I thought only ultra-religious schools treated adults like children |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
15. I recommend everyone watch this documentary |
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Kievan Rus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
16. Lower the drinking age and end this nonsense pronto... |
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brooklynite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
17. My High School (Boarding) served wine at Sunday Dinner... |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
18. Awesome...it was my mom who showed me how to drink properly! |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
20. One day I was watching Meredith Viera on whatever morning show she does. |
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kevinbgoode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 10:46 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. I agree. . . this is ridiculous |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 09:32 AM Response to Reply #28 |
34. That brings up a point about requiring to pay for college. |
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kevinbgoode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 09:16 AM Response to Reply #34 |
82. I have always felt that should be challenged. |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 10:00 AM Response to Reply #82 |
84. I would agree. My parents didn't send me to college or pay for tuition and board. |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 07:07 AM Response to Reply #34 |
114. it is possible |
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jmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
23. What about those of us who paid our own way through school? |
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ladym55 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
24. And from someone who works at a university |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
29. Hmm...so they would shut me out when my daughter |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
30. Well. This is bullshit. |
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liberal_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 10:52 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. So when a student dies from alcohol poisoning on campus the campus has no responsibility? |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 09:35 AM Response to Reply #31 |
37. The campus has no responsibility... |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 08:35 PM Response to Reply #31 |
80. Huh? Where did I say that? |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #31 |
109. If somebody dies from alcohol poisoning it's their fault for drinking too much |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
35. The only real solution... |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
36. Unless Mom & Dad were raised in a remote cave somewhere, they "know" |
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Broken_Hero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
38. Hmm, not sure |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
39. Just an extention of zero tolerance extended to colleges |
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Gidney N Cloyd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
40. They don't have FERPA in Virginia? nt |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 01:11 PM Response to Reply #40 |
52. sure they do. and FERPA allows this sort of disclosure |
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Gidney N Cloyd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #52 |
73. Thanks. I had no idea that exception was built in. |
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Love Bug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
41. Part of being an adult (over 18) is taking responsiblity for yourself |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
43. May help a little but really won't do much on the larger scale... |
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liberal_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
44. 18 may be adult age but they are still teenagers and definitely act like teenagers when they are 18 |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 12:58 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Ironic that you get arrested as an adult for violating a law that treats you like a child. |
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liberal_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Fine. All I'm saying is if they want to be treated like an adult they can pay the adult consequences |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 01:19 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Yeah, they're adults. Treat them accordingly. |
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liberal_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 02:44 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. oh and the friend who killed his date. Guess who paid his legal bills? His mother. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
47. Under 21? Yeah, I want to know when my kid's doing something that can hurt him. |
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LaydeeBug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
48. bfd. bt |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
55. Allow Me To Quote "Footloose", Which Contains the Answers To All Life's Questions: |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 10:34 AM Response to Reply #55 |
86. Where are we as a species? |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 11:05 AM Response to Reply #86 |
89. If You Choose To Live In a Society, You Must Work With the Society |
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CBR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
56. My college did this while I was in school (1998-2002). |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
61. This isn't new. |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
62. May take flak for this, but I can't stand. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
65. My parents didn't care. They thought the if I was an adult, I could handle If I was going to drink |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
71. Given that mom & dad will likely sue the school when something bad happens |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
72. so what? at 18 yr bigger than your mom and if you're a guy bigger than yr dad |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 04:35 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. "learning to handle alcohol is part of what you're supposed to learn in college" |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 10:19 AM Response to Reply #72 |
85. Really? |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #85 |
104. I'm graduating magna cum laude in the spring and I drink frequently |
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