Republican comes clean on affair with mother-in-law

[Enrique]

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/02/georgia_county_elects_republican_who_slept_with_mother_in_law.php?ref=fpb

(...)

Meet newly minted Rep. Daniel Stout.

His campaign Web site touts his conservative, pro-family bona fides. "I believe Paulding County wants someone who will stand strong for the conservative principles we've always believed in ... lower taxes, limited government, personal responsibility, and valuing Life from the womb until natural death," he says.

But, as the writer Tom Crawford of Capitol Impact noted this week, Stout "has been compelled to address a personal incident from 10 years ago: he had an affair with his first wife's mother while his first wife was pregnant with their daughter. Stout and his first wife subsequently divorced."

In a statement to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Stout apologized and said, "This humbling experience changed my life dramatically."

He also said the relationship with his mother-in-law "was stopped short of 'sex.'"

[hisownpetard]

1. Raise your hand if you believe him... Anyone?

[GiveMeFreedom]

30. I will raise my hand ...

with middle finger extended,



Republican values only work when no one is looking, all talk and hanky panky. Fuck the Repubs.

[shintao]

33. Why are we offended?

As a moral issue this doesn't bother me in the least, except breaking vows. It makes sense he is attracted to someone that looks and smells like the women he loves. If he were to cheat with anyone so carelessly, it should be his mother-in-law, not some outsider. It is with someone he is around alot, maybe even lived with her(?), go places with her. I find this more tasteful than loving a sibling in incest.

The only issue is breaking the marriage vow, if that was a vow to honor. Some people make up their own vows, so........... I just don't see this as a big issue.

[daleo]

38. You don't see a problem with him having an affair with his wife's mother?

This isn't just any old affair. Suppose that the affair had produced children? Imagine how it split up his wife's family, and the long lasting repercussions. Plus, he did this while his wife was pregant with her mother's grandchildren. I mean, come on.

[shintao]

42. Nah, I don't see it

An affair with any strange women could have produced a child as well and split up his family worse. He was keping it in the family, so to speak, the best choice. I don't defend him for breaking a marriage vow, or if MIL husband was alive. I just think Americans are a bit hung up on sexual issues, and they see this type of cheating as a taboo. I think it an excellant choice, and sorry it wasn't an open choice with his wife involved, or this wouldn't be an issue.

[11 Bravo]

45. Holy shit! I'll bet Thanksgiving dinner at your house is a gas!

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[Hekate]

52. Exactly so.

Good pic by the way

Hekate

[shintao]

53. Sorry.....

Sorry, but my views don't have to be your views, and apparently they aren't. I am a psychologist adept at analyzing the human condition, and not a troll as you paint me. I see nothing wrong with a person being attracted to his mother-in-law that looks like his wife and smells like his wife. Do you know what pheromones are, and how they interact with attraction. In any case, that is my opinion.

The guy broke a vow, maybe, and if he did he might break other laws or rules to have his way. Interesting the right and the Christians are not making issues out of all the sexual conduct happening with its members, like they did with Clinton. Hypocrites.

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[muffin1]

62. So, if I came to see you at your office,

and told you my husband was cheating on me with MY MOTHER, you would tell me I should join in????

:wow:

[Yavin4]

63. Only If She Tags You In

There is an etiquette to this.

:sarcasm:

[muffin1]

84. Well, obviously...

I wouldn't want to just jump into a pile of bodies...THAT would be bad form...:eyes:

This has got to be one of the funniest threads in MONTHS. I have laughed so hard, my sides hurt, and tears are rolling down my face!! I'm going to have to bookmark this one.

:rofl:

[pepperbear]

73. Regardless of who the "other woman" was, it's still...

...a case of a so-called family values conservative who couldn't live up to those values, all the while casting those "values votes". This should be trumpeted day in and day out until these hypocrites are exposed for what they are.

[Mojorabbit]

75. It seems you are not thinking of

the emotional harm he did to his wife as a husband and to the relationship she had with her mother.

[badgerpup]

97. OK...

(puts on biology student hat)

For those of you playing at home: pheromones are smells/scents/odors. They're not always conciously perceived, and they are not always pleasant, but they pack a PUNCH. Smell is the strongest trigger of memory...think about it. The term 'leading by the nose' has more truth to it than you may think.

I watched some those extremely erudite programs they had on The Learning Channel about pheromones and the amazingly powerful (and not-very-well understood) role they play in sexual attraction.
They DO cause people to completely bypass the cerebrum and process pretty much with the gonads and the primitive part (referred to hereafter as the 'lizard') of the brain..."Smell GOOD. F#*K!!"

It's difficult to accept this, since sex and the concepts of love and fidelity have become very entangled issues. They all arise from different sections of the brain and often don't mesh well.

I do see your point; the pheromones that attracted him to his MIL would be very similar to those which originally attracted him to his wife. The lizard part of his brain wouldn't give a rat's ass about 'vows', 'fidelity', 'morality' or anything else of that nature, since it wouldn't even be able to be aware of such abstract concepts, let alone understand them.

This is what leads women to be attracted to 'bad' guys...they throw off some very powerful pheromones denoting virility and that they are the biggest baddest mofo on the block, which is what one wants for the progenitor of one's offspring...even if the woman has absolutely NO INTENT of reproducing. Her 'lizard brain' doesn't/can't know this; it just does what it what it was evolved to do.
***

I do gotta admit though, even with my biology student hat on, there is a bit of a squick factor (I realize this is conditioned thinking).
That, and the whole 'taking vows' thing. That's breaking promises, which doesn't go over well whether it involves sex or anything else.

[Caliman73]

105. This is the kind of shit that makes people ridicule psychology.

I have worked in mental health for 16 years and my wife is a clinical psychologist and psychotherapist. We saw your post and gagged. Attraction is one thing. Anyone can be attracted to anyone else or anything, but attraction does not exist in a vacuum. Any psychologist or sociologist worth a damn would know that. Pedophiles are attracted to pre-pubescent individuals. The attraction mechanism is the same as that of heterosexual adults to each other or homosexual adults to each other. The difference is in the social and psychological implications of the attraction and any behavior on the individuals directly involved and those who share in the consequences.

There isn't any type of infidelity that is better than another. One is certainly not more acceptable than the other. I would even argue that the sense of betrayal would be far greater for the spouse who was cheated on to know that they were betrayed not only by their marriage partner, but also by a parent. These are presumably the individuals who are expected to be the most loyal and interested in the person's well being.

Pheromones are chemical attractants that serve to arouse sexual feelings in animals. Yes, we are animals, but what separates us from less developed animals is that we are not slaves to our sexual urges and the effects of pheromones or rutting. We have no objection to open relationships but an affair is not an open relationship it is simply a betrayal of trust. As a psychologist you should know that trust and a sense of security are fundamental to a person's well being and the success of any relationship.

[JVS]

108. You're a psychologist and you think that having an affair with the MIL...

is less disturbing to the family than an affair with an outside woman who might have a kid at some point? Psychologically, how do you think the wife feels when the "other woman" turns out to be her trusted mom?

[demigoddess]

67. ewww

[thereismore]

100. ewww is right! nt

[Festivito]

102. OMG /nt

[JVS]

107. Whoa. That's the stupidist rationalization I've ever seen

[bulloney]

88. The kids' half brothers and sisters would also be their uncles and aunts.

I'd like to see how that family tree would look.

[GiveMeFreedom]

43. The issue is

That once again a Repub is espousing Christian values to lead the faithful to the voting booth. However, this Repub is not walking his talk, a liar who got caught. His personnel motives for public office need to examined and checked. I could give a flying fuck if he was dating his wife's sister or uncle, mother in-law or father in-law, he's another example of Repub hypocrisy on family values, no shame and no brains.

[Sherman A1]

59. Precisely

[PetrusMonsFormicarum]

47. Hypocrisy

is what offends me.

[The Doctor.]

48. Kind of like doing your wife's sister.... ?

I'll give you that you are more "objective" than most, but how about the basic "WTF?" value of this issue?

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[Blue_Tires]

72. I'm almost tempted to ask

him to post pics of his MIL...She has to be Helen Mirren-hot...

Just when I finally think I've seen everything on this site, it finds new ways to amaze me...

[progressoid]

79. Didja miss this part...?

"I believe Paulding County wants someone who will stand strong for the conservative principles we've always believed in ... personal responsibility."


That's a little something called hypocrisy.

[dionysus]

96. ewwwwww

:puke:

[secondwind]

2. why does this not surprise me anymore? n/t

[BrklynLiberal]

3. No shit Sherlock!!

"Stout and his first wife subsequently divorced."

[Maru Kitteh]

4. What kind of asshole mom sleeps with her kids spouse?

That's so gross I'm speechless. Really.

[JVS]

6. The Alpha-cougar.

[kenny blankenship]

20. Straight out of a David Lynch movie

(Wild At Heart)

[Hannah Bell]

106. her pregnant daughter's spouse. her grandchildrens' father. yuck.

[JVS]

5. LOL! "Stopped short of sex"? Did he get a handy or what?

[WeDidIt]

8. Nope

Premature ejaculation.

Now you know why his mother-in-law went public.

:evilgrin:

[malaise]

11. Come on They're ReTHUGS

that's pubic. :evilgrin:

[mitchum]

13. He does look a little overeager, doesn't he?

[RC]

18. Naa, that was just a cigar.

[47of74]

55. I've got the following for sale for those who believe that

[Enrique]

90. he stopped short!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxGRE2wpjsY&feature=related

[condoleeza]

7. Oh, well who hasn't done that...geez

[indy legend]

9. The party of family values strikes again & again & again &&&&&

At least this time they actually kept the family values in the family.

[cutlassmama]

10. lol, came here to post this.

[Fumesucker]

12. Gack... Now I have the creeps.. This.. creature.. is my representative..

An affair with his mother in law?

He makes Newt Gingrich seem normal..

[dmr]

19. Now, now, don't get too hasty on Newt.

He's still creepy.

[Botany]

Well Newt just dated his high school teacher ..... married her and then ....

...... divorced her after she got cancer ... he gave her the papers as she was
in the hospital under treatment ..... he then married the women he was having
an affair w/ only to cheat on her as he was after Bill Clinton on the Monica B.J.
hunt.

But this guy was w/ his mother in law?

Who is worse? :shrug:

[Fumesucker]

44. While his wife was pregnant with his child..

Don't forget that..

The Newtster is local to me also, I know more about his escapades than is good for my gag reflex..

[Botany]

46. But this guy loves Jesus

My goal in life is to serve and glorify The Creator by reflecting the love and grace He has shown to me through Christ.

http://electdanielstout.com/bio.htm

Bad enough to screw around on your wife .... even worse when she is pregnant ..... but as your wife was pregnant
to mess around with her mother?

[saracat]

14. Well, at least none of our guys did that!

So far as we know(not that I would care if they did , really).But these guys with the holiedr than thou are asking for it! LOL!

[CurtEastPoint]

15. And he was elected to replace Richardson, who resigned in similar

situation: conflict of interest and sex... "Glenn Richardson, the family-values Republican who represented the county and was speaker of the house, stepped down after his ex-wife publicly accused him of having "a full-out affair" with a lobbyist while he was married."

Nice family values, Repubs.

[Supersedeas]

85. History repeats itself

[RubyDuby in GA]

95. And naturally, 3 Republicans in the race and not one Democrat

Nice going DPG.

[DJ13]

16. Unless his mother inlaw looked like a man he's no Republican

[Octafish]

17. Repuke Motherinlawfucker

Gosh.

[indy legend]

22. It's a step up from the motherfuckers the rest of them are.

[babylonsister]

21. Just...EWWWW! nt

[JBoy]

23. LOL from his bio:

http://electdanielstout.com/bio.htm

"I’m the proud father of nine-year-old Elizabeth (“Libby”). Libby loves anything pink, and especially loves dancing the “Pretzel” with her rhythm-less dad."

Hopefully not the same pretzel-dancing that grandma did with him.

[The Doctor.]

24. "MILILF"?

Great... Now we get a whole new line of tee-shirts.

[tanyev]

31. Or maybe MILIRDF

...I Really Did...


:D

[The Doctor.]

34. Nah... then it'd just be "MILIF".

Still... it's another bad T-Shirt waiting to happen.

[Liberal_in_LA]

25. That's messed up..seriously.

[The Doctor.]

26. Wow... His kid could have wound up with an "Uncle-Brother" or "Auntie-Sister"...

That wouldn't have been 'family ties', it'd have been 'family knots'.

[47of74]

56. It would've been reducing the family tree to a family bush!

Pun intended too!

[The Doctor.]

71. This a DUZY thread.

Nice chimp reference!

[hootinholler]

80. Well, I'm an Uncle-StepCousin

It gets confusing at times. LOL

-Hoot

[TexasObserver]

27. Not surprisingly, the mother in law didn't win Mother of the Year.

I'm trying to think of something worse a husband or a mother could do than have an affair while their wife/daughter was pregnant.




Nope, can't think of anything.

[indy legend]

76. No. But she could end up being the key note speaker at the next tea party

[SpiralHawk]

28. typical republicon

Is he a chickenhawk, too? Would not surprise anyone...sooo republicon.

[The Doctor.]

29. I'm trying really hard not to imagine the family reunion;

"Dad! Uncle Max keeps putting sand in my shorts!"

"Max, stop messing with your big brother! I'll let him whup you!".

[bmbmd]

32. Here's to you

Mrs. Robinson.

[tonysam]

35. It sounds almost like actor Rod Cameron

He divorced his wife to marry her mother, who was just a few years older than he was. They stayed married.

[Marr]

36. Now THAT'S what I call "pro-family".

[VanW]

37. oh dear

[SmileyRose]

39. Family Values = keep it in the family

And the people of Paulding County already knew about this and elected him anyway.

[Botany]

40. Oh God I am coming!

My goal in life is to serve and glorify The Creator by reflecting the love and grace He has shown to me through Christ.

http://electdanielstout.com/bio.htm

[SirRevolutionary]

41. So many jokes here..

but you all beat me to them :rofl:

[Stephanie]

50. He needs to never utter the word "womb" again.

Ish.

[Initech]

51. Yeah talk about family values!

[Stinky The Clown]

54. Hahahahaha HAAAAAAAAhahahaha :snort: Hahahahaha

[Renew Deal]

57. Didn't I just see something about this in the Leviticus post floating around here?

Something about thy womanfolks mothers nakedness? :D

[lazarus]

64. close

LEV 20:14 And if a man take a wife and her mother, it is wickedness: they shall be burnt with fire, both he and they; that there be no wickedness among you.

Now, a couple of things about this. It could well be interpreted to mean if a man takes a wife and her mother at the same time, it is wickedness. And note that all three are doomed.

[indy legend]

70. Well, Miss Beverly Hills ,Lauren Ashley, is a "biblical scholar".

She was quoting Leviticus about Gays being condemned to death. Maybe she can chime in on this subject and enlighten us on the virtues of "family values".

[guitar man]

92. Yesss!!

Fire!! Fire!!....Burn 'em!! Fire!!!!

hehehehe!!

[reflection]

60. What did she say

whenever he yelled "who's your daddy?" "Your wife's mother's father?" :shrug:

[muffin1]

61. And I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts

he's against same-sex marriage - to preserve the sanctity of the institution, and all.:eyes:

[KingFlorez]

65. How low can you go?

This sounds like something on Knots Landing or Dynasty. Family values indeed.

[muffin1]

68. K&R

for hilarity!!!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[TheMadMonk]

69. By framing these sorts of incidents in terms of the act(s) committed...

...these matters become far too trivialised.

With Hollywood as the gold standard, who is fornicating with whom is nothing more than salacious gossip. Easily forgiven, quickly forgotten.

The point that needs to be hammered is the breach of trust, not which tab got inserted into what slot.

[bigtree]

74. you can't make this stuff up

stranger than fiction

[upi402]

77. Republicans are the most twisted freaks

I've said it before, and they keep doing crap to make me say it again... year after year.

[HughBeaumont]

81. Listen to them talk about sex . . . particularly sex between two men sometime . . .

I swear, pornographers don't go into as much graphic detail as fundie Repubs do.

[RedRoses323]

83. Yep

:crazy:

[progressoid]

78. Oops.

posted in the wrong spot.

[pipoman]

82. Anyone have a pic of the hot MIL?

[Brewman_Jax]

86. No surprise there

Repubs are ALWAYS for family values--only when convenient.

[mistertrickster]

87. IOKIYAR . . . nt

[KansDem]

89. Wow! So when he and his wife take his wife's mother out for dinner...

Who gets to ride up front?

[muffin1]

91. And when they get home,

who gets to ride on top?

:P

[upi402]

98. Who cleans up the baby oil and chicken blood?

That's what I'd like to know. Is it an in-sourced job? Are soc. sec. taxes paid if so?...

[Enrique]

101. and when he says 'my old lady'

who's he talking about?

[Wednesdays]

93. This is actually very heart-warming...

I mean, look at how many people hate their in-laws...there's jokes constantly made about that. It's refreshing to know there's at least one who was able to get along well with his mother-in-law.

[Blue Owl]

94. Kinkaaaay!

Always love a good lesson in Republican family values.

[thereismore]

99. Leviticus 18:17

17 Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of a woman and her daughter, neither shalt thou take her son's daughter, or her daughter's daughter, to uncover her nakedness; for they are her near kinswomen: it is wickedness.

Nice going, repig.

[Monk06]

103. This is my mother in law and this is my wife's sister my daughter or my sister in law/daughter.

:wtf:

[slampoet]

104. Translation, "I'm a cheating lying scum in my heart but i'm not a mother-fucker"