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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:54 PM
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Dodgers baseball team owners paid NO federal income tax on $108 mil in 4 yrs
from today's LA TIMES:

Frank and Jamie McCourt, who are seeking divorce and may co-own the Dodgers, claimed $108 million income from 2004 through 2009 and paid NO federal income taxes, court filings show. Court papers indicate deliberate structuring of the business to help them live tax-free. Both are disputing who actually owns the Dodgers baseball team.

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so who says the wealthy are over taxed and paying more than their fair share?

Batter up!

Msongs
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:56 PM
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1. Have a heart; haven't the McCourts suffered enough?
Survey says, "NO!"
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:01 PM
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6. LOL
$108 million doesn't go as far as it used to. :sarcasm:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:58 PM
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2. how do you structure things to live tax free?
I mean, I know one way would be to make no money - but how the fuck do you go tax free if you make $108 million?

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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:00 PM
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4. Have a whole bevy of tax lawyers that actually
read the tax code and know what it really in it.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:42 PM
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10. Reading the tax code does not allow for someone making
108 million to get away with paying no taxes.

that's a load of hogwash
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 12:08 AM
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Here's how they did it:
From the article:

According to Jamie, the McCourts employed two mechanisms to live tax-free. One was to claim enormous tax losses from their business, which was mostly commercial real estate before they bought the Dodgers. These could be carried forward, offsetting income year after year until they were finally netted out. Jamie's documents say that in 2008 the net loss carry-forward from previous years was $109 million -- in other words, the McCourts could have earned that much without paying a penny of income tax.

A year later, the loss carry-forward had increased to $135 million, which makes it sound as if 2008 was one horrible year. Yet according to another document Jamie filed in court, one of Frank's partnerships paid him $23 million that year.

Did the McCourts really lose $135 million in the years before 2009? Probably not in the sense that you or I suffer a loss when a dollar bill slips through a hole in our jeans, or even when we sell that stock our brother-in-law described as "a slam dunk" for less than we paid for it.

"They're tax losses. I don't mean real losses," Jamie's lawyer, Bert Fields, told me.
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 12:08 AM
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14. Read "Free Lunch" or "Perfectly Legal" by David Cay Johnston
Edited on Thu Feb-25-10 12:09 AM by gmoney
$108 Million tax free is pretty unremarkable in the world of wealth and privilege.


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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:59 PM
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3. Simple solution: Root for the Giants.
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Gemini Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:01 PM
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5. LOL!
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:02 PM
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7. Sweet deal!
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:03 PM
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8. But the Dogers can fund political candidates. "Representation without Taxation". n/t
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:06 PM
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9. Yeah, but they're stuck with Manny.
At least for the year.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:57 PM
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11. No wonder our state's fucking broke!
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 12:03 AM
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12. Link to story here
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hiltzik24-2010feb24,0,5865964.column

Details on how they became such huge welfare queens in the story. This is how the rich live. Show this to the republickers in your life.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 12:15 AM
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15. thanks 4 the link - better than my summary lol nt
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 10:29 AM
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17. Really tears a hole in the anti-tax talking points.
Truth is, rich people don't pay taxes. Rich corps don't pay taxes.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 12:06 AM
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13. And how much do they charge to get into that shit? I wouldn't wipe my ass with a baseball game
ticket.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 10:31 AM
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18. Nor would I!
:fistbump:
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 01:26 AM
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16. They're part of the GOP supported corporate welfare state.....
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 10:32 AM
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19. Oh, look. Rich people also don't pay parking tickets.
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kudzu22 Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 10:39 AM
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20. Gives new meaning to the term "Tax Dodger"
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 11:09 AM
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21. remember if we raise taxes MORE on the rich in California they'll leave
because clearly the tax laws in California are so so harsh on them. LOL to that chestnut argument.
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