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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 09:54 PM Original message |
Alarming new trend: Boys call it "scooping". Parents call it sexual assault |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
1. it is sexual battery |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 09:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. The guv of California got away with it. |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
444. People frequently get away with sexual harassment, battery, and assault |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:49 AM Response to Reply #1 |
277. No shit... I went to public schools and never heard of anything like this. |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:05 PM Response to Reply #277 |
443. Where I went to school (southern CA) the boy would have been beaten up |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 02:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
469. Thread over. |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
2. This was going on when I was in school back in the 60's. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. When I saw in school in the late 80's |
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RZM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:13 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. I believe that's called 'snaggling' (n/t) |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. I grew up in the backwards 60's. |
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itsrobert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #5 |
362. Early 80's here |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Absolutely. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:34 PM Response to Reply #12 |
34. and when you heard boys brag, did any guy have enough guts to call the braggart out |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 04:00 AM Response to Reply #34 |
173. I was too busy getting my ass kicked daily and living in fear. |
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DrCory (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 06:21 AM Response to Reply #173 |
178. LOL! You too, eh? |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 06:35 AM Response to Reply #178 |
179. There was a Senior that used to steal my lunch every day |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 08:28 PM Response to Reply #179 |
442. Awesome. nt |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:29 AM Response to Reply #178 |
267. Not in high school, but "middle school" was horror. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #267 |
280. a male really doesnt have to do a whole in in the challenging. much of male behavior |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #280 |
287. My point is, I had my head down in so much terror I wasn't aware of anything else going on... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:06 PM Response to Reply #287 |
297. i hear ya. thanks |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 07:45 AM Response to Reply #297 |
458. . |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 08:18 AM Response to Reply #34 |
204. I was having enough trouble with bullies myself at the time. n/t |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 06:33 PM Response to Reply #34 |
430. great question! bw this is why my gals know tae kwon do -- |
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AsahinaKimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 06:49 AM Response to Reply #430 |
470. When I was in school |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:20 AM Response to Reply #12 |
155. Those boys hurt me. You should have said something. |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 08:17 AM Response to Reply #155 |
202. I was a child |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-02-10 05:33 PM Response to Reply #202 |
467. So was she. |
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wizstars (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
292. In the immortal words of Senator Sam Ervin: |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
4. She was sexually molested in public... |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. You would send an 11-year-old to prison for six years? |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. Not as an adult. I'd send him to Juvenal detention until he was 18... |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:52 PM Response to Reply #17 |
60. Pervert? |
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nyc 4 Biden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 08:24 PM Response to Reply #60 |
441. I don't think it's over the top. |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
83. Good grief |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #83 |
108. Sexual assult is sexual assult. |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:33 PM Response to Reply #108 |
115. So the fact that the kid is 11 makes no difference? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:35 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. Give him whatever the juvie sentence is for sexual assault. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 03:29 AM Response to Reply #118 |
171. aren't you old enough to know better than to recommend sending an 11-year old to juvi for 7 years? |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 08:13 AM Response to Reply #83 |
200. I like your solution. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #83 |
261. why would you excuse behavior with puberty and curious, to start your lecture? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #261 |
279. It's sickening. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #279 |
282. i am being razzed for continually asking this question. i see these comments as insults to boys |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #282 |
288. Yes, it really is interesting. (nt) |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 07:29 PM Response to Reply #282 |
437. wonder what they'd say if the boys were scooping their sons? |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 06:36 PM Response to Reply #261 |
431. every boy should have a mama like you, seabe. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 07:14 PM Response to Reply #431 |
435. ahhhhh |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:12 PM Response to Reply #17 |
95. Right, so you're going to brand an 11 yr old boy |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 07:28 PM Response to Reply #95 |
436. No. |
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MonkeyMama (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 10:02 PM Response to Reply #436 |
454. Thank you. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 03:25 AM Response to Reply #17 |
170. yep...send him to gladiator school to learn new and exciting and better ways to assault others... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 04:02 AM Response to Reply #170 |
174. Deleted message |
Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:31 AM Response to Reply #174 |
221. The poster does understand what he or she is saying |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 07:59 AM Response to Reply #17 |
460. Send an 11 year old to juvie for 7 years? |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Give him the death penalty, that will show him. nt |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. Sorry, I oppose the death penalty as cruel and inhuman punishment... |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:26 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. How is this rape? Sounds like the boy needs to be taught manners. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. it is beyond being taught mere manners and certainly not 6 yrs in juvie.... |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:45 AM Response to Reply #32 |
149. That's what I mean. You don't need draconian legal punishments to teach them right from wrong. |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:42 PM Response to Reply #25 |
46. Go out on the street and start grabbing womens breasts... |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:48 AM Response to Reply #46 |
150. If I beat up some nerd on the subway, I get arrested. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:14 AM Response to Reply #46 |
215. The reality is that if you did that, you'd get 30 days in jail, |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:47 AM Response to Reply #46 |
227. not all 'sex crime' charges are the same, either. |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. Rape? |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:49 PM Response to Reply #31 |
54. If an adult did this on a public street they would be charged with a sex crime. |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:52 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. But an adult DIDN'T do this... children are not "little adults"... they are kids |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:01 PM Response to Reply #59 |
80. No, but when they act criminally, and when those acts are common... |
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Zoeisright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #59 |
395. And kids know the difference between right and wrong. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:54 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. But these aren't adults. For fuck's sake. |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:05 PM Response to Reply #64 |
86. So when do you teach boys it is wrong? |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:06 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. When they do it, of course. |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:17 PM Response to Reply #88 |
99. The moment they pass 18 it becomes that. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:21 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. And you honestly cannot distinguish |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #99 |
248. They are a reflection of a sick society where touching another person is considered offensive. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #248 |
306. Touching Is NOT Forcible Groping |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:27 PM Response to Reply #306 |
310. Yes, okay, I failed to make that distinction, correct. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:29 PM Response to Reply #310 |
313. We're Not Talking About That |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #313 |
315. That's what I am talking about. That is MY point. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:34 PM Response to Reply #313 |
316. Further, I don't think anyone, even those who claim 'boys will be boys', think groping is okay. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:37 PM Response to Reply #316 |
319. For Starters |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:48 PM Response to Reply #319 |
327. Okay, then, I agree it's worse than simply 'touching' as if it were brushing inadvertently against |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:21 PM Response to Reply #88 |
305. This Is Not "Touching"; This Is Assault |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 05:39 AM Response to Reply #86 |
177. Every single day, by example. |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:49 PM Response to Reply #54 |
127. The would not be charged with rape. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:50 AM Response to Reply #127 |
229. and there are different degrees of sexual assault, just like with murder. |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 04:27 AM Response to Reply #54 |
175. "If an adult did this..." An adult did NOT do this. An 11 year-old did. |
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ChadwickHenryWard (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:05 AM Response to Reply #54 |
253. I think you're forgetting that this was non-consensual. n/t |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 07:53 AM Response to Reply #54 |
459. If an adult did this in public to another adult, he would likely receive probation |
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verges (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:42 PM Response to Reply #21 |
122. What rape? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:16 AM Response to Reply #122 |
216. 11 yr old KNOWS better and not about curiosity. that is just an excuse. nt |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 10:02 AM Response to Reply #122 |
235. A suspension should occur. |
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verges (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 11:20 PM Response to Reply #235 |
464. That is a reasonable response. nt |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 10:37 AM Response to Reply #21 |
242. Jesus H. Fucking Christ... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 10:56 AM Response to Reply #242 |
250. what are you suggesting with your example. that it simply is not a big deal grabbing stacy's tit?nt |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:15 AM Response to Reply #250 |
257. Of course not, that's what you are trying to get everyone to say... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:22 AM Response to Reply #257 |
264. dictorial much? yup. |
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RedRoses323 (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:02 PM Response to Reply #242 |
380. LOL |
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Zoeisright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #242 |
396. Do you even KNOW what sexual assault is?? |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:58 PM Response to Reply #396 |
453. Yes and we should also jail all children who get in fights |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 10:39 AM Response to Reply #21 |
243. That isn't rape. Quit twisting the meaning of the word n/t |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 10:46 AM Response to Reply #4 |
246. I'm sorry, but that's completely ridiculous, based upon my reading of the story. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #4 |
281. Was your intent to start a flamewar? That punishment obviously does not fit the crime. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:55 AM Response to Reply #281 |
284. it is such an absurd suggestion, along with death penalty or castration..... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:00 PM Response to Reply #284 |
289. Yep... it provides a very convenient distraction from the issue. (nt) |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
330. In California, at least, the max punishment for this is one year in prison. |
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Nailzberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
8. Boys grabbing girls boobs is hardly a "new" trend. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:07 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. really. "alarming new fearmongering" |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. The term is new, but the concept is ancient |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:36 PM Response to Reply #18 |
35. assaulted. when it is done WITHOUT consent, it is assaulted. not "felt up". |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:46 PM Response to Reply #35 |
51. I never said that being "felt up" was an accepted or consensual act |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:50 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. being felt up is to kids fooling around mutually. being grabbed is assault without permission is |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:57 PM Response to Reply #55 |
71. Not where I come from |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:59 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. you never felt up a girl with consent? only against her will? and when friends told you |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:02 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. And again, you make assumptions |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 05:44 PM Response to Reply #35 |
428. Technically it's not "assault", it's "battery". |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 05:53 PM Response to Reply #428 |
429. thank you for the clarification. again i would like to stress, using the proper word |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
37. My friends and I call it "bean-dipping" but unlike these guys we have standards. |
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SirRevolutionary (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:31 AM Response to Reply #8 |
222. Watch, they'll do a whole article on wedgies next week |
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blueworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 03:18 PM Response to Reply #222 |
397. I'm glad you brought up the point |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:55 AM Response to Reply #8 |
283. It didn't happen where I went to school... so it's new to some people, obviously. (nt) |
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KILL THE WISE ONE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
9. not alarming not new |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:56 AM Response to Reply #9 |
285. Yes, it is alarming. |
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rcrush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
11. When I was in high school someone did that to a girl that some of us were friends with. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:38 PM Response to Reply #11 |
40. there we go. finally. an appropriate response from a guy. thank you. nt |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:45 PM Response to Reply #40 |
50. Yep. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
13. WTF? |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
36. Knee. |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 10:24 PM Response to Reply #36 |
457. shin |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
14. Is this the modern day version of "copping a feel"? |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
15. Wow! Imagine. I think I'll name it "copping a feel!" |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:40 PM Response to Reply #15 |
42. "I was once a boy..." and you were so poorly raised? or you just thought you were so special |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:33 AM Response to Reply #42 |
146. I was expecting this... |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:23 AM Response to Reply #42 |
218. I agree. Getting felt up is part of a mutually agreed experimentation. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #218 |
286. How hard is that to teach? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #286 |
296. Not very hard on either count. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:08 PM Response to Reply #296 |
298. exactly MM. and we all know it. it is the pretending otherwise i have issue with. none of this is |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #296 |
331. It amazes me that so many guys insist it's impossible to teach. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:22 PM Response to Reply #331 |
344. That's a crock. Guys don't have some sort of uncontrollable urge |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #344 |
346. bingo on your post MM. nt |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:31 PM Response to Reply #344 |
353. Yep... glad to see that at least a few guys get it. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #353 |
365. Oh, I think most guys get it. It's just that the few Neanderthalers |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #365 |
368. Most guys have never once groped someone's breasts who wasn't a consenting person |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:47 PM Response to Reply #365 |
371. Aha... thanks. |
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Mopar151 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 05:20 PM Response to Reply #296 |
422. It's way more fun, too! n/t |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
20. The last guy who tried that with me got an elbow in the face. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:25 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. A silly drunk did it to me when I was cocktailing for a weekend. |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:26 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Good. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:41 PM Response to Reply #20 |
44. why the fuck dont these grown men on this thread think it is assault instead of their RIGHT |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:50 PM Response to Reply #44 |
58. Good question. |
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liquid diamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:24 AM Response to Reply #58 |
156. Face it. That's never going to happen. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 03:18 AM Response to Reply #156 |
167. Permissive, indulgent "boys will be boys" apologia will help insure |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 07:11 AM Response to Reply #156 |
180. "isn't going to change young male behavior. " ... since the strong majority of boys make it thru |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #156 |
275. Institutionalized racism was once also part of growing up. |
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liquid diamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 03:51 PM Response to Reply #275 |
400. A young child's sexual curiosity is not comparable with |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 04:20 PM Response to Reply #400 |
406. Sexual curiosity is not analogous to sexual battery. (nt) |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 04:39 PM Response to Reply #400 |
410. What is the precise and relevant difference? |
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1awake (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:30 AM Response to Reply #58 |
268. This isn't about boys.. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:33 AM Response to Reply #268 |
273. this is a big issue i had with boys growing up. especially at younger ages i saw the girls |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:09 PM Response to Reply #44 |
92. + 1,000,000,000 |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:13 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. already learned from older males that it's "no big deal". |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:03 AM Response to Reply #96 |
134. see post 133 |
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verges (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:54 PM Response to Reply #44 |
129. Nobody is condoning this. NOBODY! |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 07:15 AM Response to Reply #129 |
181. firstly many guys are condoning it with bullshit like boys will be boys. second |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:35 AM Response to Reply #44 |
143. they wouldn't think the same if it's done to their daughters |
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KILL THE WISE ONE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:47 AM Response to Reply #44 |
145. you may be a little overboard here |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 07:29 AM Response to Reply #145 |
186. it isnt telling your boys not to grab a girls breast. it is teaching son respect to females and her |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:04 PM Response to Reply #186 |
294. !!!!! Best post in the thread! |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 07:25 AM Response to Reply #44 |
185. +++ a billion |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:01 PM Response to Reply #44 |
291. THAT is the best question on the thread. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:36 PM Response to Reply #44 |
317. Who did that? |
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theorbiter (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:34 PM Response to Reply #44 |
357. Ummm... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #357 |
364. "11 year olds know better", uhhh NO THEY DON'T." uuuh yes they do. i said nothing about jail |
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theorbiter (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:00 PM Response to Reply #364 |
378. Sorry... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:10 PM Response to Reply #378 |
385. a first grader knows to keep hands off. so they keep hands off. repercussion is punishment |
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theorbiter (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #385 |
388. I know I know... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #388 |
392. then i guess you also know i never suggested 7 yrs of jail. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:59 PM Response to Reply #20 |
74. + 1,000,000 |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
22. What's "new" about this? And no, I'm not condoning it. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #22 |
299. It didn't happen where I went to school. |
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Qanisqineq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
23. a guy did this to my friend and I |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:37 PM Response to Reply #23 |
39. Making him up front in the bus was probably the worst punishment possible. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
26. happened to me a couple of times |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
28. Put cameras in the schools, arrest, convict and put them in prison. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:31 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. I still say Death Penalty. |
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verges (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:00 AM Response to Reply #29 |
131. If a lot of people on this thread had their way, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 07:18 AM Response to Reply #131 |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
30. sorry to be so blunt, but this is where you must teach girls this: |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
45. word |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
48. That's what I got taught |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:08 PM Response to Reply #48 |
90. That's not two wrongs making a right. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:10 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. but they expect you to go after those! and a good black eye or broken nose |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:46 PM Response to Reply #93 |
450. Yep, that's what a woman's self defense coach told us |
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rcrush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:45 PM Response to Reply #30 |
49. Or if they have to get a big guy friend to do it for you |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 03:19 AM Response to Reply #49 |
168. In my sisters case, she called her brother |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:47 PM Response to Reply #30 |
52. i was in cafeteria line and wasn't the breast he was after. i turned on him, had my tray |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:56 PM Response to Reply #52 |
69. i was in the cafeteria line.... |
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mvccd1000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:37 AM Response to Reply #52 |
158. It didn't dawn on you to turn him in... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 07:20 AM Response to Reply #158 |
183. i have two boys that would never consider it acceptable. tell me where i said JAIL. where |
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mvccd1000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 07:37 AM Response to Reply #183 |
191. Kids know this is wrong? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 07:56 AM Response to Reply #191 |
194. no issue with putting them on a sexual offender registry .. what BULLSHIT. no one said sex offender |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:37 PM Response to Reply #158 |
318. Thank you. +1000 |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #318 |
321. i get assaulted and you guys are thumbs up i shouldnt be a parent. amazing shit. nt |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #321 |
322. You are posting hysterically. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:48 PM Response to Reply #322 |
326. ahhhh, now i am hysterical along with not needing to be raising kids. please tell me |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:23 PM Response to Reply #30 |
104. punch him in the throat. It will leave a more lasting message |
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AwakeAtLast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:02 AM Response to Reply #30 |
132. But then the girl gets suspended for fighting |
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liquid diamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:29 AM Response to Reply #30 |
157. Do you really think it is a good idea for a young girl to get into |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:46 AM Response to Reply #157 |
276. yes. he will not leave her alone otherwise. adult intervention won't work, |
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liquid diamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 03:52 PM Response to Reply #276 |
401. And what's to stop the boy |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 04:21 PM Response to Reply #401 |
407. and what is to stop him later if she DOESN'T punch him one.... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 05:07 PM Response to Reply #407 |
416. i think bringing it to mere sexual curiosity is the grossiest in not calling it what it is. rape.... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 05:16 PM Response to Reply #416 |
420. It's not rape, though. It's sexual battery. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 05:19 PM Response to Reply #420 |
421. i am not calling it rape. i am saying, to suggest this is merely sexual curiosity. do you think |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 05:33 PM Response to Reply #421 |
425. Ah yes, I see what you're saying... |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
33. This is new? |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
38. Arnold our Governor used to do that kind of action on his movie sets |
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rcrush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:41 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. No one ever kicked him in the balls |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:48 PM Response to Reply #43 |
53. Those women would have been black balled in the industry if they had |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 10:12 PM Response to Reply #43 |
455. He was a massively built body builder at the time. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
41. Didn't know the current terminology but recognize the activity from |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
47. That's just groping. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:50 PM Response to Reply #47 |
57. It is sexual assault. I wonder if the girls grabbed the boys by the nuts and |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:53 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. They're 11 year olds for chrissakes.... not able to distinguish what they're doing is wrong |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:01 PM Response to Reply #63 |
78. Hey I beat up a bully in my class who kept pulling my hair and doing other |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:43 AM Response to Reply #78 |
225. A-fucking-men! Stiill a lot of that mindset around. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:32 PM Response to Reply #63 |
114. If a 11yo boy doesn't understabd that groping is wrong then... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:12 PM Response to Reply #63 |
300. They're not able to distinguish that grabbing private parts is wrong? At 11? |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #63 |
314. 11 year olds know this is wrong. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:52 PM Response to Reply #63 |
374. You are very wrong about 11-year-olds. Sixth-grade is not third. Girls are developing (see story). |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 03:50 PM Response to Reply #63 |
399. That is total bullshit. Many 6th graders are practically having sex these days. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:40 PM Response to Reply #63 |
448. That's bullshit - "they don't know it's wrong." |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:56 PM Response to Reply #57 |
68. Boys and girls should react the same way. |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:01 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. Yep. Exactly. |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:13 PM Response to Reply #57 |
97. see post #5 |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:28 PM Response to Reply #97 |
110. That's wrong too. I never said it was right, however, I suspect that it was |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:28 PM Response to Reply #97 |
111. That's wrong too. I never said it was right, however, I suspect that it was |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:35 PM Response to Reply #111 |
117. I never heard of girls grabbing boys when I was in school. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 07:34 AM Response to Reply #117 |
187. ONE poster says girls grab guys too, all posters say guys grabbing girl not new |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
56. And those of us who aren't reactionary call it "normal pre-teen behavior" |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:52 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. It's still wrong. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:56 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. i dont buy it. i have two boys 15 and 12. all there friends, my sons dont grab girls boobs |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:57 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. You watch your 15 and 12 year old boys 24 hours a day? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:04 PM Response to Reply #73 |
84. Deleted message |
Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:39 PM Response to Reply #84 |
119. Mine know it's wrong. |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:41 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. Sorry, that was meant for the poster above you. nt |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #73 |
324. I have a son who is nearly 11. |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 10:48 AM Response to Reply #66 |
247. ( their friends ) not ( there friends ) |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 10:57 AM Response to Reply #247 |
251. yes, especially when it is so easy to dismiss grabbing stacys tit. |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:18 AM Response to Reply #251 |
260. You infer way to much.... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #260 |
265. clarification works well. i read your post above. so easy. |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:56 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. Of course they need to be taught... but calling for prison time for an 11 year old |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:57 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Maybe a little field trip to visit |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:05 PM Response to Reply #67 |
87. one poster said prison. ONE..... nt |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:55 AM Response to Reply #87 |
162. Another has advocated castration. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 07:35 AM Response to Reply #162 |
189. i didnt see it. one said death penalty, pretty sure was sarcasm. nt |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:42 PM Response to Reply #67 |
449. What's an appropriate punishment for an 11 year old |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:53 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. normal for the guy to feel he has the right to grab without permission or wanting to be grabbed |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:55 PM Response to Reply #62 |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 10:57 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. do you have kids. are you clueless. they are well aware at a much younger age |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:00 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. I have a 15 year old and a 10 year old daughter.... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:07 PM Response to Reply #76 |
89. so, when your daughters are assaulted by all those boys that just dont know better |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:44 PM Response to Reply #76 |
124. If an 11 yr. old boy doesn't know sexual boundaries at that age... |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:25 PM Response to Reply #76 |
348. I wasn't a very clever 11 year old |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 03:53 PM Response to Reply #76 |
402. So when an 11 year old boy sticks his hands inside your daughter's underwear in the hallway, |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 04:27 PM Response to Reply #76 |
408. just because your kids don't know how to act properly when out of sight of their parents |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:01 PM Response to Reply #65 |
79. oh please "11 year olds haven't developed a full sense of right and wrong yet... " |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:04 PM Response to Reply #79 |
85. They know lots of things are "wrong"... but they lack the understanding of how serious it is |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:09 PM Response to Reply #85 |
91. and i didn't say it DID make him any of those things, so who is the one lying now? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:15 PM Response to Reply #91 |
98. do it for braggin rights. and then the little boys dont have the guts to call their friends |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #85 |
94. both y boys would be really offended with your post. i had son read |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:47 PM Response to Reply #85 |
125. Reaching out and groping w/out permission |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:37 AM Response to Reply #62 |
147. I'm pretty gobsmacked by the shrugging going on in this thread. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:07 AM Response to Reply #147 |
152. Lots of male supremacists here. nt |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 07:37 AM Response to Reply #152 |
190. isnt it amazing. just amazing the boys will be boys. be gentle with our boys as they abuse girls |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:15 PM Response to Reply #147 |
302. I'm not. Sickened, yes... but not surprised at all. (nt) |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:13 PM Response to Reply #56 |
301. It's not normal, it's wrong. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:24 PM Response to Reply #56 |
308. Forcible Groping Is NOT NORMAL |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 04:47 PM Response to Reply #56 |
411. Based on what objective criteria? |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
82. It's nothing new at all. nt |
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kleec (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
100. Unless the school |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
101. What ugly little felons these boys are. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #101 |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:14 AM Response to Reply #106 |
137. Okay, then they're future felons |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:22 AM Response to Reply #137 |
141. They're kids. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 07:52 AM Response to Reply #141 |
193. it is sexual assault. and saying the harsh word is a better learning scale for boys than a hug |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:17 AM Response to Reply #106 |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:44 AM Response to Reply #154 |
160. 11-year-olds touching boobs is crass, tasteless, and classless. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:27 PM Response to Reply #160 |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #312 |
325. It's sickening and disturbing, the minimizing... |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:52 PM Response to Reply #160 |
452. This Is Not Touching. This Is Sexual Assault And You're Defending It |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
103. God Dammit, parents need to be teaching boys how to act like gentlemen and not do shit like this! |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:23 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. yes... though some of the men seem to think boys cant learn. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:29 PM Response to Reply #105 |
113. They absolutely can learn. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 07:58 AM Response to Reply #113 |
195. instead of the ONE poster saying juvie, MAYBE boys would be better served males not make excuses |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:17 PM Response to Reply #195 |
303. It's so funny how so many are so desperate to seize on one or two respones. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:34 PM Response to Reply #105 |
116. Yep, the "Boys will be Boys" morans. |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:43 PM Response to Reply #105 |
123. Probably the best way to stop this... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 08:00 AM Response to Reply #123 |
196. i am sure the schools have addressed and have made clear. my oldest this morning told me |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #103 |
107. But that's sexist & teaches girls to become dependent on men!! |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:48 PM Response to Reply #103 |
126. Yep. nt |
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AnnieBW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
109. Teach your daughters - knee ->nuts -> problem solved |
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4lbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
112. Stuff like this has happened for decades in Japan. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:40 AM Response to Reply #112 |
144. It was a real problem when I went to Japan 30 years ago, but mostly for |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 08:02 AM Response to Reply #112 |
197. oh bullshit.... their guys are humping pillows. nt |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
120. If my son did that to a girl, I'd kick his ass, then hand him over to her father. Of course, |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
128. Try it once on my daughter you little bastards. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
130. Deleted sub-thread |
musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
133. "A Culture of Indifference": Report on Campus Sexual Assault |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:18 AM Response to Reply #133 |
138. school judicial systems? |
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fan of the arts (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
135. The biggest problem of our century |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:10 AM Response to Reply #135 |
136. Looks like you need a referral to: |
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fan of the arts (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:20 AM Response to Reply #136 |
140. I've always been pro equal rights for all, as if there's a human choice to not be |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 08:08 AM Response to Reply #140 |
198. girls take a back seat... again, cause assault doesnt matter much. then we wonder why boys dont see |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:19 PM Response to Reply #140 |
386. I imagine that all the topics you mentioned... |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:30 AM Response to Reply #135 |
142. Gee, it's a good thing most of us are smart enough to multitask. |
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Mopar151 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:19 AM Response to Original message |
139. It happened on the night shift |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 08:10 AM Response to Reply #139 |
199. thank you. simply the right thing. no condoning and excusing. appreciate it. nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:39 AM Response to Original message |
148. Deleted sub-thread |
geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:04 AM Response to Original message |
151. Suspend the little bastards. Second offense expulsion. |
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liquid diamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:17 AM Response to Original message |
153. Nothing new here. Kids are being kids. This has been going on for |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 03:16 AM Response to Reply #153 |
165. So has rape by teenage boys. But, boys will be boys so it's okay. nt |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 08:14 AM Response to Reply #153 |
201. from beginning of time men have dominated and controlled women. so girls, what are you bitchin about |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:43 AM Response to Original message |
159. Unacceptable |
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lutefisk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:47 AM Response to Original message |
161. What a great school. I'd remove my kids, too. |
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Last_Stand (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 03:06 AM Response to Original message |
163. This Thread Is Off The Rails |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 03:11 AM Response to Reply #163 |
164. Welcome to DU! |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 03:20 AM Response to Reply #163 |
169. It has its moments. Oh my yes it does. nt |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 08:18 AM Response to Reply #163 |
203. amazing the shrugs from males on assault..... and then not surprised generations of boys do this |
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Amaya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 08:53 AM Response to Reply #163 |
210. " Nice progressive board you've got here." |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:25 AM Response to Reply #163 |
219. It sometimes gets a little over the top. Most folks are pretty reasonable, however. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:28 AM Response to Reply #219 |
220. how about all the men that see this simply as boys will be boys and part of growing up |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 10:17 AM Response to Reply #220 |
237. How about I was making a comment about some of the comments that have been |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 07:25 PM Response to Reply #237 |
463. every serial killer was a child once... |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 03:18 AM Response to Original message |
166. Alarming Non-Issue To Distract You From What Is Really Happening! |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 03:59 AM Response to Original message |
172. Um, this is hardly "new" I'm not saying that it's ok. |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 05:34 AM Response to Original message |
176. What an offensive thread. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 08:23 AM Response to Reply #176 |
206. " now considered proper "boy" behavior." that is what is so offensive. respect |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:02 AM Response to Reply #206 |
211. Mother of all critters, do you have anything productive to say? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:08 AM Response to Reply #211 |
213. actually, i got that from your post, that you were taking responsibility and conclusion is respect |
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TuxedoKat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:42 AM Response to Reply #176 |
224. I think that is a big part of the problem |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 07:24 AM Response to Original message |
184. Why would the parents leave this up to the school? CALL THE COPS! |
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lutefisk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:57 AM Response to Reply #184 |
233. In my state, school officials have a legal responsibility to report suspected abuse |
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Rebubula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
188. One article... |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
192. Be careful what punishment you wish for. |
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sybylla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
205. New? |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
207. It's a crime and it's unacceptable. I hope schools will attack it ASAP. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 08:38 AM Response to Reply #207 |
209. i bet you didnt have to teach your boys not to grab a tit. but... i bet you taught your boys |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:07 AM Response to Reply #209 |
212. I taught my boys and other boys, too. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:11 AM Response to Reply #212 |
214. a good man as a role model is the best way for boys to learn how to behave |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:50 PM Response to Reply #207 |
328. So nice to read responses like this... |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #328 |
361. Agreed. Any child in first grade should know they aren't supposed to do such things. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
208. i talked to hubby, i talked to boys. hubby did not see it as his right. never did it. friends |
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stuntcat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
217. at 11 years old... |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:36 AM Response to Reply #217 |
223. When I was in junior high in 1988 to 1990 some stuff like this happened. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:51 PM Response to Reply #217 |
329. I'm with you... but IMO it's full-on sickening. (nt) |
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dustbunnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
226. As others have stated, it's not a new trend at all. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:50 AM Response to Reply #226 |
230. but to shrug and says boys will be boys just curious is obviously, the same old mind think. nt |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
228. Well my Grandson is turning 11 in a few days |
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dustbunnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:52 AM Response to Reply #228 |
231. Funny, I don't see a single person condoning either "scooping" or bullying. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:57 AM Response to Reply #231 |
234. "I don't see a single person condoning ". of course you dont bunny. no surprise there. nt |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:56 AM Response to Reply #228 |
232. i hear ya. both my boys got to appreciate the boys will be boys mentality this morning. |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
236. Well, the name for it may have changed, but the behavior hasn't.. |
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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 10:44 AM Response to Reply #236 |
244. Wow. I've got two daughters and never heard of that one. |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #244 |
252. I did a search and came up with this... |
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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:10 AM Response to Reply #252 |
254. Yeah, I've been looking around too. |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:17 PM Response to Reply #254 |
340. I didn't mean to imply it's a crisis or anything... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:11 AM Response to Reply #252 |
255. there are also the blow job parties of 12, 13 yr old with group of boys |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:20 PM Response to Reply #255 |
342. Yep, that too...I heard a gynecologist on TV say the other day |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
238. Nothing new here. This was a scandal in my elementary school 48 years |
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lutefisk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 10:28 AM Response to Reply #238 |
240. "grubbing" - I remember that from the late 60's. Haven't heard the word since. |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
239. This is the sort of thread that makes it hard to associate myself with "progressives" |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 10:30 AM Response to Reply #239 |
241. you deride posters for hyperbole as your post is full of it |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:15 AM Response to Reply #241 |
258. ...and then we all looked at your very first post on this thread, |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:36 AM Response to Reply #258 |
274. i guess it is all in how you chose to interpret my posts. but YOU demanding me to KNOCK IT OFF |
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dustbunnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #258 |
295. Ignore can be everybody's friend. |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:20 AM Response to Reply #241 |
262. And here you are... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:31 AM Response to Reply #262 |
269. well, we disagree it is "normal" since the vast majority of 11 yr old boys not only know it is wrong |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:49 AM Response to Reply #269 |
278. What you're not getting here |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:03 PM Response to Reply #278 |
293. i think saying grabbing breast are normal, curiosity, puberty, dont know better IS |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:25 PM Response to Reply #293 |
309. Well, that's your right I guess |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:03 PM Response to Reply #309 |
335. i heard the same silent condoning when two nephews stoled car and credit car. typical impulsive |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #335 |
345. But it's not condoning! |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:18 PM Response to Reply #278 |
304. just a thought |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #304 |
320. For me, the seriousness of the crime is not really mesuareable from through they eyes of 11 year |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:07 PM Response to Reply #320 |
337. and if your child hasnt learned empathy by 11, it is a sad time for all. empathy is the easiest |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:48 PM Response to Reply #337 |
373. Its the linkage of empathy to their actions |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:54 PM Response to Reply #373 |
376. as a parent i would use it as a learning opportunity for kids as i used this thread this morning |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #373 |
384. btw... no where have i suggested these are hopeless kids, or throw away kids |
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dustbunnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 10:46 AM Response to Reply #239 |
245. Excellent post and excellent response to the theoretical situation. n/t |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:23 PM Response to Reply #239 |
307. It never happened at any of the schools I went to. |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:55 PM Response to Reply #307 |
332. but that doesn't mean it didn't happen in some regions |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #332 |
334. How many people have said to apply the adult criminal system? |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #334 |
339. Wasn't really the inital point |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:21 PM Response to Reply #339 |
343. By lumping this behvaior in with stealing toys and other *actual* minor shit... |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:42 PM Response to Reply #343 |
367. Thing is though |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:46 PM Response to Reply #367 |
369. They wouldn't know the difference in severity between stealing a toy and grabbing a sex organ? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:46 PM Response to Reply #367 |
370. process the difference between stealing a minor thing and grabbing a girl. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 03:56 PM Response to Reply #239 |
403. As if you've ever associated with PROGRESSIVES. |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
249. That ain't new. |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
256. What ever happened to depantsing? |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:28 AM Response to Reply #256 |
266. Still going on |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
259. Hey, maybe this is just "youthful indiscretion?" |
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Dyedinthewoolliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
263. A punch in the nose |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:31 AM Response to Reply #263 |
270. Indeed. A busted nose, cracked cheek bone and/or knocked out teeth end a predator's BS quickly |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:32 AM Response to Reply #263 |
271. That's what usually stops it. |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:33 AM Response to Reply #263 |
272. A Kick In the Balls Would Be More Appropriate...And Be a Greater Deterent |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #263 |
363. Teach girls to grab the boys' crotches in return. Hard. That'll stop it |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
290. I had that happen ONCE and only ONCE because I punched the shit |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
311. To everyone acting so shocked and claiming that it isn't new... yes it is, to some people. |
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dustbunnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #311 |
389. No schools "tolerate" it, obviously. That's why it's done hit-and-run. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #389 |
398. LOL... "having their tits lopped off"... stay classy! (nt) |
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dustbunnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #398 |
404. As classy as those on this thread suggesting 11 year old boys have their penes cut off. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 04:17 PM Response to Reply #404 |
405. Those? How many have said that? (nt) |
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dustbunnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 04:48 PM Response to Reply #405 |
412. At least one. In addition to the suggestion that 11 year olds be incarcerated. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #412 |
413. "At least one"?... post numbers please? |
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dustbunnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 05:00 PM Response to Reply #413 |
414. I find it odd that you wouldn't have a comment to post to the person who advocated |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 05:04 PM Response to Reply #414 |
415. Because IMO that's flamebait BS. |
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dustbunnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 05:11 PM Response to Reply #415 |
417. I see. It's flame bait to respond to people who advocate for castration or imprisonment. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 05:13 PM Response to Reply #417 |
418. No, it's flamebait to post that it's rape and deserves imprisonment. |
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dustbunnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 05:26 PM Response to Reply #418 |
423. Nobody is condoning it, and nobody is claiming it's "innocent" sexual curiosity. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #423 |
424. Sexual curiosity is, by definition, innocent. |
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dustbunnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 05:38 PM Response to Reply #424 |
426. No it isn't at all. What an ignorant statement. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 05:41 PM Response to Reply #426 |
427. You seriously think sexual curiosity isn't innocent? |
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dustbunnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #427 |
433. I'm pretty tired of this myself. But no, not all sexual curiosity is innocent. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 06:47 PM Response to Reply #433 |
434. Curiosity is not the same thing as action on the curiosity. (Should I say DUH here? LOL) |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
323. During the 1990s it was "depantsing," which was exactly what it sounds like! nt |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
333. I don't know what I would do to my boys if they ever did something like that. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:03 PM Response to Reply #333 |
336. You mean you woulnd't gently sit them down, and explain that you know it was only curiosity? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:09 PM Response to Reply #336 |
338. exactly. i am flabbergasted, but i guess that is hysteria to at least one poster, maybe more |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:29 PM Response to Reply #338 |
351. That crap is the defnition of "wink and a nod" punishment. (nt) |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:31 PM Response to Reply #351 |
354. it is. so maybe this is the break down of the communication with this issue. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:33 PM Response to Reply #354 |
356. Some of them do! |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:37 PM Response to Reply #356 |
359. geez, i wasnt clear enough. lol. i mean, the men that for us it is wink wink, nod nod..... |
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bamacrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
341. Geez kids today know way too much at a young age. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #341 |
347. You mean, the police weren't called? Girls should have been sent to juvenile detention, |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:29 PM Response to Reply #347 |
350. one poster. now who is being hysterical. nt |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:35 PM Response to Reply #350 |
358. Did you mean, 'now who is still being hysterical.'? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:42 PM Response to Reply #358 |
366. you have yet to show me or explain the comment that i am hysterical. nt |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:54 PM Response to Reply #366 |
377. Hysterical may not be the word. I'm not sure how to characterize it, but |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:03 PM Response to Reply #377 |
381. no. hysterical isnt the word. now... show me where i advocate violence |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #381 |
390. Okay, sounds fine to me; maybe we are simply misreading each other? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #390 |
393. back atcha.... nt |
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bamacrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:30 PM Response to Reply #347 |
352. Yeah I know especially in Alabama where I grew up... |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:38 PM Response to Reply #352 |
360. lol - I don't have |
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bamacrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #360 |
382. I was never part of any sex parties. Much to my chagrin. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
349. First rainbow parties, then pregnancy pacts, now this. |
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Norrin Radd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
355. What the hell is wrong with these kids? |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #355 |
375. They merely observe the world around them. |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:27 PM Response to Reply #375 |
387. This reminds me... |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
372. "Many parents consider scooping sexual assault." THAT'S BECAUSE IT IS, DOOFUS REPORTER. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
379. They were doing this in the 60s when I was in junior high |
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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:06 PM Response to Reply #379 |
383. And they'll be doing it forty years from now.... |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
391. one trend follows another...remember 'swirling' in nyc pools? |
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Zoeisright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
394. That happened to me in 7th grade. In front of the CHRISTIAN school I attended. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
409. If the student had groped a teacher instead of a fellow student |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 05:16 PM Response to Reply #409 |
419. it is merely a boy acting out his sexual curiosity. thru out the thread |
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etherealtruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
432. WTF |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 07:31 PM Response to Reply #432 |
438. Thank you! |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 11:42 PM Response to Reply #438 |
465. oh that's easy.... |
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BlancheSplanchnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
439. We live in a RAPE CULTURE |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #439 |
440. it certainly feels like the first step to dehumanizing girls. no consideration in the girl and how |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:29 PM Response to Reply #440 |
446. Well, you know, the important thing |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:33 PM Response to Reply #446 |
447. boys shouldn't have to cope with any long term effects or consequences of sexually assaulting someon |
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BlancheSplanchnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 09:32 AM Response to Reply #440 |
461. exactly exactly exactly! |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 10:04 AM Response to Reply #461 |
462. Amen to that: |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 10:16 PM Response to Reply #439 |
456. +1 |
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shintao (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
445. Disturbing |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
451. An alarming trend that's been going on for generations! |
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boobooday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
466. This happened to me every day in the sixth grade |
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468. New? |
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