Wanna know why it seems all the good-paying unionized manufacturing jobs went to China?

[Octafish]

Ask Poppy Bush. He knows his big brother Prescott Bush, Jr. was head honcho for the US-China Chamber of Commerce.

Nice, huh?

President's uncle shares Bush family ties to China

By Debbie Howlett, USA TODAY
02/18/2002 - Updated 10:33 PM ET

EXCERPT...

Bush's approach centers on promoting U.S.-China economic ties. That's a course favored not only by his father, the first President Bush, but also by his uncle, Prescott Bush Jr., a longtime acquaintance of Chinese President Jiang Zemin.

The Bush family's ties to China go back to 1974, when President Nixon named George Bush ambassador to China. The college-age George W. Bush spent two months in China visiting his parents during his father's two-year stint.

Seven years after his brother left the ambassadorial post, Prescott Bush made his first trip to China. He later joined with Japanese partners in 1988 to build a golf course in Shanghai, the first in China. He met Jiang, who was then the mayor of Shanghai.

Prescott Bush, now 79, also developed a close working relationship with Rong Yiren, a former trade minister and vice president, who in 1993 introduced Bush to a group of Chinese business leaders as "an old friend." In 2000, Forbes publications reported that Rong, who has retired from government, was the richest man in China.

SNIP...

Last year, he opened the U.S.-China Chamber of Commerce offices in Chicago. The membership roster includes United Airlines, American Express, McDonald's, Ford and Arthur Andersen, the beleaguered company that audited Enron's books.

Bush says opportunities abound now that the 1997-98 Asian financial crisis is in the past: "The Chinese are very much interested in getting foreign capital in. They desperately need the jobs."

CONTINUED...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2002/02/19/usat-prescott-bush.htm

I try to mention this whenever I hear "The Hippies Republic of China" or
"The Hippies Republic of California" come out of some right winger's gob.



Right-wingers and neocons must not've understood the real Smirko.

The Bush family: Middle Kingdom rainmakers

By Zach Coleman
Asia Times
May 21, 2004

HONG KONG - George Herbert Walker Bush arrived in Beijing 30 years ago as the official United States representative to China with one goal above all else: expanding his buddy list.

"My hyper-adrenaline, political instincts tell me that the fun of this job is going to be to try to make more contacts," he wrote in his first diary entry. "And it is my hope that I will be able to meet the next generation of China's leaders - whomever they may be. Yet everyone tells me that that is impossible."

Bush Sr, already a champion networker, wasn't to be denied. In a final triumph at the end of his stay, Deng Xiaoping, then vice premier, threw a farewell lunch for Bush Sr and his wife.

"You are our old friends," said Deng, according to a Chinese government website. "You are welcome to come back anytime in the future."

Bush Sr and his relatives have turned that open invitation into a family franchise over the years, setting themselves up as gatekeepers between lucrative business opportunities created by the opening up of China's economy and the US corporate and political establishment. If Iraq is the place where the Bush men fight once they leave the oil fields of Texas, China is where they have made money.

CONTINUED...

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/FE21Ad01.html

The Hippies knew -- and know --
where something else related to work went, too.
Middle America’s money.



It went to the Wall Street Banksters.
They're also friends and cronies of the Bush Family.

[AzDar]

1. K & R

[Octafish]

3. The Yakuza in Business and Politics

Thank you, AzDar! Thanks also for remindin' me of something else...

The Yakuza in Business and Politics

EXERPT...

There is another yakuza incident that hits closer to home. West Tsusho, a Tokyo-based real estate firm, bought two American companies with help from none other than Prescott Bush, Jr. - President Bush's elder brother....

West Tsusho is an arm of a company run by the Inagawa-kai's leader, Ishii Susumu. . . . Tsusho purchased Quantum Access, a Houston-based software firm, and Asset Management International Financing & Settlement, a New York City-based company. . . .

With the anti-yakuza countermeasure act in place, the future for the yakuza seems bleak, at least in Japan.

The North American expansion could do very well, as they channel nearly $10 billion into legitimate investments not only in the US, but in Europe as well.

SOURCE:

http://www.kycbs.net/YAKUZA.htm

Japan? China? Mafia? Totalitarians? When it comes to money, what's the difference?

[Name removed]

2. Deleted message

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[Octafish]

4. If Hitler had won WW2, they'd be all right. Thus, we can grok BFEE kinship with Totalitarian China.

So what's a little treason among fiends? Nothing, considering you own both teams on the playing field.

Outsourcing US Missile Technology to China

The Saga of Magnequench

By JEFFREY ST. CLAIR
Coutnerpunch Weekend Edition April 7 - 9, 2006

Magnequench is an Indianapolis-based company. It specializes in the obscure field of sintered magnetics. Essentially, it makes tiny, high-tech magnets from rare-earth minerals ground down into a fine powder. The magnets are highly prized by electronics and aviation companies. But Magnequench's biggest client has been the Pentagon.

The neodymium-iron-boron magnets made by Magnequench are a crucial component in the guidance system of cruise missiles and the Joint Direct Attack Munition or JDAM bomb, which is made by Boeing and had a starring role in the spring bombing of Baghdad. Indeed, Magnequench enjoys a near monopoly on this market niche, supplying 85 percent of the rare-earth magnets that are used in the servo motors of these guided missiles and bombs.

But the Pentagon may soon be sending its orders for these parts to China, instead of Indiana. On September 15, 2004 Magnequench shuttered its last plant in Indiana, fired its 450 workers and began shipping its machine tools to a new plant in China. "We're handing over to the Chinese both our defense technology and our jobs in the midst of a deep recession," says Rep. Peter Visclosky, a Democrat from northern Indiana.

It gets stranger. Magnequench is not only moving its defense plants to China, it's actually owned by Chinese companies with close ties to the Chinese government.

Magnequench began its corporate life back in 1986 as a subsidiary of General Motors. Using Pentagon grants, GM had developed a new kind of permanent magnet material in the early 1980s. It began manufacturing the magnets in 1987 at the Magnequench factory in Anderson, Indiana.

In 1995, Magnequench was purchased from GM by Sextant Group, an investment company headed by Archibald Cox, Jr-the son of the Watergate prosecutor. After the takeover, Cox was named CEO. What few knew at the time was that Sextant was largely a front for two Chinese companies, San Huan New Material and the China National Non-Ferrous Metals Import and Export Corporation. Both of these companies have close ties to the Chinese government. Indeed, the ties were so intimate that the heads of both companies were in-laws of the late Chinese premier Deng Xiaopeng.

At the time of the takeover, Cox pledged to the workers that Magnequench was in it for the long haul, intending to invest money in the plants and committed to keeping the production line going for at least a decade.

Three years later Cox shut down the Anderson plant and shipped its assembly line to China. Now Cox is presiding over the closure of Magnequench's last factory in the US, the Valparaiso, Indiana plant that manufactures the magnets for the JDAM bomb. Most of the workers have already been fired.

CONTINUED...

http://www.counterpunch.org/stclair04072006.html

Fasicts hate Democracy. If everybody's equal under the law, how could a drunken coked-out frat boy rise up to become pretzeldent? Without stealing elections, that is.

PS: Thank you, BrklynLiberal! I'd love to make the Smedley Butler story into a Hollywood picture. The guy had something the BFEE and their bosses, cronies and minions will never have: Integrity.

[BrklynLiberal]

5. Scary to see how many companies - familiar companies - played both sides during WWII.

http://www.11points.com/News-Politics/11_Companies_That_Surprisingly_Collaborated_With_the_Nazis

http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/02/04/p/05_killing.html

http://www.mit.edu/~thistle/v13/3/oil.html

[hootinholler]

7. Have you read "The Family" yet?

Some nice connections there as well. And the beat goes on...

-Hoot

[BrklynLiberal]

10. Thanks for pointing out that book to me. I will check it out.

:thumbsup:

ah yes.. Jeff Sharlet. i have not read it yet,but have seen several interviews with Sharlet, and comments on it by people like Rachel Maddow.

Scary stuff...

[hootinholler]

11. The reviews and interviews don't begin to cover how scary it is.

That organization has been operating towards the consolidation of power for 2 generations now. It's not clear why to me. I think one of the most important questions we can ask of public figures these days is with whom do you pray?

-Hoot

[Octafish]

8. Hitler also imported certain ideas from Amerika.

From Edwin Black:

Eugenics and the Nazis -- the California Connection

Thank you very much for those outstanding links and articles, BrklynLiberal. Didn't know about Kodak... Did know about IBM, thanks to Mr. Black.

[BrklynLiberal]

9. I believe IBM was mentioned in the first article..

AmeriKa did it before the Nazis....with the Native Americans. And to some extent, are still doing it.

[liberation]

34. It was not just companies.... check the banks which bankrolled both sides during WWII

Heck, the Bank of England was caught financing the Germans even as they were dropping bombs all over London during the battle of Britain. Dutch and German financiers were bankrolling the armada being assembled by the Spanish to invade and squash the protestant uprising by the English crown, while at the same time they were also financing their own local protestant movements which were actively fighting the Spanish crown in Central Europe.

I wonder if Fanta would have gotten the same traction if people would be remembered that Fanta was an American brand for the Nazi market initially?

Unfettered capitalism is sociopathic in nature. So we should not be surprised when it acts as such. Capital has no intellectual, cultural, or territorial allegiances (like any sociopath worth their weight in salt would). Its only allegiance is to profit, thus from that standpoint... for these financiers financing both sides (even if it means the extermination of a lot of their peers, as in the case of Jewish financiers backing the nazi war effort) is not viewed as a significant problem if the path to profit is clear.

[hootinholler]

6. So when poppy got back Ford appointed him to head Corporations In Action

Nothing like a little time to gather the real dirt on the people you've personally been stalking, er, observing for a few years. Seems like a nice position to consolidate power and and help out "old friends" with info to get ahead.

Another solid report Der Fishie, thank you my friend.

-Hoot

[Octafish]

12. Poppy shut down the shop into which Frank Church was about to enter.

Remember the Family Jewels? They're just the tip of the iceberg.



And still, Sen. Church managed to warn us.

PS: You are most welcome, my Friend hootinholler! What do you think Sen. John Tower was thinking in that photo?

[hootinholler]

14. I need a new pair of shorts

Best guess I could come up with :D

-Hoot

[jody]

13. Don't forget Prescott Bush's role in the plot to overthrow FDR.

FDR's Response to the Plot to Overthrow Him

Business Plot (also the Plot Against FDR and the White House Putsch)

[slipslidingaway]

15. knr ...

but it appears the Dems come in and finish the job, the China MFN bill and Financial Modernization bill come to mind. Hate to say it, but I feel the same about the mandates to buy private insurance bill. :(

Thanks for the thread.

[Captain Hilts]

16. Folks here are too busy blaming NAFTA. nt

[blm]

18. Yeah, they don't realize that long before NAFTA we had Poppy Bush and Jackson Stephens setting up

deals with Chinese industrialists and WalMart in the 70s. THAT was the first big test of America's acceptance of fascism.


How did they do?

NAFTA was just another step down the field...you know... when Coach Stephens put his backup QB Bill Clinton in for the BCCI-injured GHWBush.

[mod mom]

21. and after Jackson Stephens helped out Clinton he returned the favor:

Clinton to renew Normal Trade Relations with China


June 2, 1999
Web posted at: 4:51 p.m. EDT (2051 GMT)


WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, June 2) -- President Bill Clinton will notify Congress Thursday that he is renewing China's most-favored-nation (MFN) trading status -- now known as Normal Trade Relations (NTR) -- for another year, CNN has confirmed.

MFN/NTR status offers low tariffs and treats countries as normal trading partners.

The formal notification, required by the Thursday deadline, is expected to trigger a major debate in the House and Senate due to allegations of Chinese espionage against the U.S. and other recent diplomatic tensions, including charges China tried to influence the 1996 presidential election with illegal campaign contributions.

One of the first speak out against Clinton decision, Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-California), derided the president for making the decision near the 10th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square massacre.

-snip

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/06/02/china.mfn/




Clinton Proposes Renewing China's Most-Favored Trade Status

Congressional reaction mixed amidst larger China policy issues

WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, June 3) -- President Bill Clinton on Wednesday proposed renewing most-favored-nation (MFN) trade status for China, saying it was "clearly in our nation's interest" as he urged Congress to support the request.

-snip

House Speaker Newt Gingrich welcomed Clinton's recommendation for renewing MFN status for China, and vowed to work in a bipartisan manner to ensure that China receives it from Congress.

Gingrich, joined by Reps. Bill Archer (R-Texas) and Philip Crane (R-Ill.), made his comments in a letter to Clinton.

-snip

House Democratic leader Richard Gephardt issued a statement Wednesday opposing Clinton's plan to extend China's trading status for another year.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/06/03/china.trade/



White House Had Ended System of Checking Foreign Guests

By TIM WEINER
Published: February 3, 1997

Ten years ago the Reagan White House adopted a rule about foreign businessmen, lobbyists and consultants who wanted to get in to see the President without the blessing of their embassies: they shouldn't.

But President Clinton's aides did not follow that rule. In their eagerness to raise campaign money, they invited friends of the President's fund-raisers -- including China's biggest arms merchant, favor-seeking Indonesian businessmen, a reputed Russian mobster and other dubiously credentialed dealmakers -- to meet with Mr. Clinton. Nor did the White House check the suitability of Americans invited by the Democratic National Committee to meet the President, allowing, among others, a twice-convicted felon to sip coffee with Mr. Clinton.

-snip

And that is why nobody on the White House political team saw fit to ask the National Security Council staff a year ago about a man named Wang Jun, who showed up on a guest list for a White House coffee with the President. The question of exactly how Mr. Wang got into the White House has a simple answer: ''Nobody ever asked anybody,'' a National Security Council official said.

So, at the behest of a tireless political fund-raiser from Arkansas, Charlie Yah Lin Trie, Mr. Clinton wound up sipping coffee with Mr. Wang, who runs the Chinese Government's weapons manufacturing and procuring agency, which is involved in secret arms deals around the world. These coffees for fund-raisers and donors began as a way to raise morale among party loyalists after the Democrats' disastrous showing in the 1994 election. By 1995, they became a way to reward big donors and prospect for new ones, according to Democratic fund-raisers.

-snip

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C01E2DC103DF930A35751C0A961958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all


A federal grand jury has indicted 14 people and a Georgia company in a scheme to smuggle several million dollars worth of automatic weapons into the United States from China. The indictment came after federal agents smashed an arms smuggling ring that they said involved two government-run Chinese munitions firms. The following press release and affidavit outline the building of the government's case.

U.S. Department of Justice




New York Times, May 17, 1998



How Chinese Won Rights to Launch Satellites for U.S.

(BY JEFF GERTH AND DAVID E. SANGER)
On Oct. 9, 1995, Secretary of State Warren Christopher ended a lengthy debate within the Clinton Administration by initialing a classified order that preserved the State Department's sharp limits on China's ability to launch American-made satellites aboard Chinese rockets.

Both American industry and state-owned Chinese companies had been lobbying for years to get the satellites off what is known as the `munitions list,' the inventory of America's most sensitive military and intelligence-gathering technology. But Mr. Christopher sided with the Defense Department, the intelligence agencies and some of his own advisers, who noted that commercial satellites held technological secrets that could jeopardize `significant military and intelligence interests.'

There was one more reason not to ease the controls, they wrote in a classified memorandum. Doing so would `raise suspicions that we are trying to evade China sanctions' imposed when the country was caught shipping weapons technology abroad--which is what happened in 1991 and 1993 for missile sales to Pakistan.

-snip

Other powerful Chinese state enterprises also had multibillion-dollar stakes in getting access to American satellites. Among them was the China International Trade and Investment Corporation, whose chairman, Wang Jun, gained unwanted attention in the United States last year when it was revealed that he attended one of Mr. Clinton's campaign coffee meetings in the White House. The day of Mr. Wang's visit, Mr. Clinton, in what Mr. Rubin said was a coincidence, signed waivers allowing the Chinese to launch four American satellites--though they were unrelated to the business interests of China International Trade.

-snip

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/china/1998/h980618-prc5.htm

[blm]

29. In bigger ways, too....like closing the books on BCCI, the terrorist bank the fascist elite used

for many of their dirtiest deals.

[slipslidingaway]

37. Yes, HR 4444 U.S.-China Relations Act of 2000 ...

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h106-4444

[lonestarnot]

45. I know you weren't talking to me but,

now those 1996 presidential campaign contributions are no longer illegal. Cronie SCOTUS appointments saw to that now didn't they.

[geardaddy]

27. Watch out...

You might offend the Wal-mart apologists!

[bridgit]

17. The important thing is to keep on smiling so long as one is able

[AlbertCat]

41. Babs looks like she's getting a little rusty on the smile thing....

[bridgit]

42. The Portrait of Dorian Gray-ish

[DisgustedInMN]

19. Ahh yes, selective memory..

.. ain't it a hoot?

Guess you just want completely ignore NAFTA and The China Free Trade Agreement and who's signature signed them into law, doncha?

BOTH of the top tier political parties are complicit in destroying the decent paying jobs that built the middle class in this Nation. Neither has shown the least bit of interest in doing a motherfucking thing to correct it.

A Coke/Pepsi battle of finger-pointing fo rthe blame is just another way to keep the rabble from actually forcing the rich bastards to change their ways.

That's about to come to and end. One way or another.

[heli]

20. Good point

The acceleration of industrialization in China which was coincident with manufacturing job losses in the U.S. was much, much greater during the Clinton and George W. Bush years.

[pampango]

22. There is no "China Free Trade Agreement" with the US.

An FTA between China and the ten countries of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) just went into effect this year. New Zealand also has an FTA with China. Those are the only FTA's China has, AFAIK.

I've read that China is negotiating FTA's with Australia, Costa Rica, and Taiwan.

[DisgustedInMN]

23. I don't...

.. give a fat rat's ass what the fuck name it goes by, trade policies that have destroyed our Nation's ability manufacture value added products, got MUCH worse during Clinton and then went on steroids when the Smirking Idiot took over. NEITHER party has shown the slightest interest in doing ANYTHING to help AMERICAN WORKERS. In the meantime, manufactured goods made by AMERICAN WORKERS faced HUGE TARIFFS in China. But who gives a flying fuck about that, as long as the fatasses can sit around the pool and collect those dividend checks and only a 15% tax rate on them, rght?

[pampango]

24. Didn't realize that you don't things are called. I thought you opposed "free trade" not ALL trade.

You do realize that the US is still the manufacturers more than any other country, so we do still have the ability to "manufacture value added products". We do a better at this than China which largely manufactures cheap products with little value added.

Do you have a figure for the "HUGE TARIFFS in China"? When China joined the WTO, it agreed to the trading rules that all members have to follow. Unfortunately, Bush did a terrible job of calling China to task when it didn't follow those rules, which is why our trade deficit with China has exploded since 2000.

Do I blame China for its trading behavior? Of course, but the system is set up for countries to police the behavior of their trading partners and bring cases against violators. Obama has started to do this in his first year, imposing tariffs to compensate for some of China's trading practices. He needs to (and I think will) do more, but Bush did nothing for 8 years.

Lots of countries are tempted to unilaterally impose tariffs on imports regardless of what their existing agreements are. (The US has plenty of cases filed against it.) It's up to each country not to let its trading partners get away with practices that they have all agreed not to do.

[Elwood P Dowd]

28. China uses a VAT and other non-tariff trade barriers.

The tariff plus the VAT can often be over 40% for American goods.

Our manufacturing base is rapidly declining. It wasn't long ago when manufacturing was 20% of our GDP. Now it is more like 10%.

[DisgustedInMN]

48. We export ..

.. war gear. Things to kill other human beings with. Things to destroy infrastructure with. Things to allow dictators to suppress their people with. We manufacture death and destruction, more of it than any other nation on the planet.

Figures lie and liars figure.

[Bluebear]

46. What "China Free Trade Agreement"?

[DisgustedInMN]

47. Asked and answered.

A pile of shit by another name would smell as bad.

[amborin]

25. K&R

[me b zola]

26. K&R

[robertpaulsen]

30. Kicked, bookmarked, and definitely recommended!

:kick:

:patriot:

:hi:

[Mithreal]

31. America's favorite crime family.

Someone should make a series about this family on the history channel.

[maryf]

32. K&R nt

[Soylent Brice]

33. another excellent addition to your treasure trove of BFEE "accomplishments".

K&R, and bookmarked.

[Duer 157099]

35. Jeeze! Please put a warning in your OP title

if there's going to be a photo of *any* Bush!

[Liberal_in_LA]

44. He needs to stay out of the sun

[Swamp Rat]

36. k&r

:hi: :kick:

[grahamhgreen]

38. "Therapist" my @ss

[Initech]

39. Who really hates America again? It's definitely not us.

[OnyxCollie]

40. K&R.

Thanks, Octafish.

[lonestarnot]

43. Ackety. The beast family, destroying America and Americans at every crossing.

Wonder if Boobiebabs has seen that picture or the second picture of her family chinese criminal cronies. Nevermind, wouldn't matter, she can't bother her beautiful mind with shit like that.