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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 02:30 PM
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So the angry plane pilot was pissed off at GM?
Because they were given loans? Hmmmm, I can tell you right now I am fairly positive of the political persuasion of this individual (may he rest in pieces).


It's geting nasty out there folks, and the extremists are getting braver.


He also wrote: "Why is it that a handful of thugs and plunderers can commit unthinkable atrocities (and in the case of the GM executives, for scores of years) and when it's time for their gravy train to crash under the weight of their gluttony and overwhelming stupidity, the force of the full federal government has no difficulty coming to their aid within days if not hours?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35460268/ns/us_news-life/
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 02:34 PM
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1. From reading this
this guy was politically confused, railing against the deaths from no health care reform, the Communist manifesto vs. the Capitalist manifesto to the fatcats at GM. To try and pin this on one political group is dishonest at best. Sometimes crazy is just crazy.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 02:40 PM
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6. Unstable. Mentally unstable.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 02:34 PM
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2. Yeah, I noticed that..
GM was mentioned but not the banksters..

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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 03:17 PM
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16. Hell, I'm mad at the GM execs, too! I lost a big chunk of money with GM's collapse.
I was in shock at first. It sank in when I got the notification of bankruptcy from the court. I can see where the anger comes from, believe me. But this guy was way out there in the ozone...
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 02:34 PM
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3. That was only part of his justification - his reason was because he owed taxes.
Lots of taxes. He hadn't paid payroll taxes on his earnings, justifying it because of a section of IRS code some anti-tax nutjobs gave him years before. He got caught, fought it for years, and just couldn't face the fact that he owed the money. I read the whole thing, and that's what it says to me.
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 03:04 PM
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11. My brother is one of those
anti tax nutjobs. There is this anti-tax guru these guys follow. I can't remember the guru's name though. My brother has had two houses seized because of non-payment of taxes. He now lives off the grid, squatting on someone's property, unwilling to get a driver's license or job because he doesn't want the government to know where he is. Except, he spends his time filing paperwork to sue the government. For Christmas and our birthdays we get pages-long manifestos from him updating his progress on his various lawsuits and what our cut is going to be when he wins. He has tried to get us, his family, involved in his schemes involving banks and the gold standard. I think my brother should go live with the anti-tax guru and stop making my 80-year-old mother worry about him.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 03:09 PM
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13. Sorry to hear that.
That's got to be really stressful.
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 02:36 PM
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4. Steering and acceleration of the plane was mentioned in one story
Edited on Thu Feb-18-10 02:45 PM by Omaha Steve

Toyota builds planes now?

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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 03:33 PM
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18. Unintended deceleration........
:fistbump:
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 02:37 PM
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5. sounds like a angry independent libertarian type...
not to mention being a psychopath.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 02:43 PM
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7. Yeah he hated Bush and taxes and the government.
That's Libertarian if ever I heard one. The vaunted swing voter.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 02:43 PM
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8. Sounds like he was pissed at the execs not the employees.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 03:19 PM
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17. Like me. I had a big GM investment and I saw what the execs were doing but I wanted
the workers to get a fair shake. They weren't at fault. It infuriated me when people would complain about the workers union benefits...sometimes I think the anger against unions is based on jealousy...
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 03:45 PM
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19. Being in a union myself, I always hear the same old tired jokes about unions.
I do believe they are jealous.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 04:12 PM
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22. My spouse was an AFSME member before he was forced by our city to retire.
We had great benefits.

I think people see union members able to retire and get mad because they don't have enough money to retire. So they take it out on unions. Real smart, that...
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 04:18 PM
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24. Most people get a surprised look on their face when the see what I make.
I tell them I make that because my union negotiates for it. Then I tell then they could make better wages if they were union too.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 06:27 PM
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26. agreed
and to be honest, for twenty SOLID years (mid-70s to the late 90s) the Big Three had absolutely craptastic management from up top, methodically chiseling away passion, quality, and a positive customer experience for all their vehicles
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jordjb Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 02:49 PM
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9. Pinning this on anyone group?
I agree - can't pin this guy down as a teabagger, or a leftist - his manifesto is all over the place. I do find it interesting that because of the general persuasion of this site, we find most people trying to identify this terribly confused individual as a "teabagger" or some other right-wing version of the average, every-day, not-so-well-educated American populace for which most liberals have great disdain. This guy had some real problems in his life, did not fit into society and just generally did not play well with others. I am sure we will see many attempts to hijack his manifesto to make some political points on the right, and certainly on the left. I think it's sad, his death, his life, the deaths of any victims he took with him, but most of all it's sad that we have allowed our political system to become so partisan that we try to use this incident to gain some political advantage. Sad indeed.
J.Jordan
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CC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 03:10 PM
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14. Sorry he fits with the
Tea-baggers. The only core thing they all believe in is taxes and government should be done away with. Anything else they bring in is their "right" to have the freedom to hate who ever they want and proof that they are not only repukes.
I have had to suffer through enough of those explanations of what the tea-baggers are to be able top parrot them as they say it. sigh


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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 03:52 PM
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20. WE didn't allow partisanship, go look at the Repukes for their attacks on the Obama administration
He has tried to work with them, and they shit in his hand every time he extends it.


Give me a break.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 02:49 PM
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10. It was an IRS building, another I'm too good to pay taxes. n/t
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 03:12 PM
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15. Exactly... the significance is blatantly obvious. (nt)
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 03:07 PM
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12. Rush Limbaugh was telling people to boycott American auto makers
He uses the dog whistle on these crazies and it works.

Don
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 04:17 PM
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23. This is scary, he will be held as a martyr by the crazies
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 06:22 PM
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25. Limbaugh is a master a pushing their hot buttons.
the man is dangerous.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 03:52 PM
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21. Apparently, he left his family homeless, too, by burning his house.

Crazy.
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