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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:43 PM Original message |
Skinner's Post-Debate Post-Mortems |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
1. Good wrapup--agreed with your rankings! |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. Perfect Analysis. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. I think people will remember the "bejesus" moment from Gravel. |
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kiteinthewind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:50 PM Original message |
Gore would easily suck the O2 out of the room! Fingers crossed! nt |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
22. Don't you mean CO2? |
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kiteinthewind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:38 PM Response to Reply #22 |
49. Clever you are!! |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. they won't remember them if the media doesn't talk about them |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Yeah, but he might be youtubed. nt |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
4. nice assessment |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
5. the "kucinich factor" is so far the best reason I can think of... |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
6. Serious Question: |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
39. I tend to agree with your assessment of Obama. |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 11:29 PM Response to Reply #6 |
95. GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!!1111 |
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MazeRat7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
7. Sad, that in a supposed "level" playing field this early we already have "tiers".... |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. There's no such thing as a level playing field. |
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MazeRat7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. Word up... peace. -nt |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
8. I think Obama spends too much time in every 'answer' talking about WHO he is ... |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. What TN said! |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
25. Obama is fine, and he will get even better in the upcoming months. |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
30. I thought Obama was very UNEVEN, which underscored his lack of experience. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:13 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. I just don't like Edwards' health care 'plan' ... too pandering and ripe for corruption. |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
44. I think that is a deliberate strategy by the Obama campaign. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. I think I'd have to agree it is ... and, sadly, it doesn't appeal to me. |
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never cry wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 11:23 AM Response to Reply #44 |
119. I agree with you to a point |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 11:51 AM Response to Reply #44 |
121. Mondale's disastrous |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
10. That's about how I see it.... |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
11. You know, it says a lot about the stupidness (as opposed to stupidity) of this period in American |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
12. And what about the possible wild card - a late Gore entry? |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
13. I thought Obama seemed nervous and inexperienced |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
15. Excellent analysis, Skinner, although I give Edwards more credit. |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Yeppers! It's Still Edwards For Me... n/t |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:57 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. It's still Obama for me, though. |
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GalleryGod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:17 PM Response to Reply #17 |
38. I'm with Chici...Edwards. |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 09:20 AM Response to Reply #38 |
115. Goody-Goody! He's A;; THAT! IMO! |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:27 PM Response to Reply #15 |
80. I thought Edwards would be stronger. Not to be anti but, he just seemed off tonight. |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 09:40 PM Response to Reply #80 |
125. How was Obama, in your opinion? n/t |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
16. This Time I Disagree With You... I Really Really Wanted Obama |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
21. About Gravel |
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umtalal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
23. Obama bored me. Kucinich was interesting to listen to. n/t |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. The problem with Kucinich |
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umtalal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. this voter does. I also like Edwards because Elizabeth is a hero of mine. n/t |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. not true-- he's the best hope for the dem party and America, IMO.... |
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sellitman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. That sounds like a right wing talking point |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:42 PM Response to Reply #36 |
51. It's not a right wing talking point. It's reality. |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. I do. |
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Reterr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:37 AM Response to Reply #26 |
104. I take him seriously |
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nam78_two (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:59 PM Response to Reply #23 |
64. Agreed.nt |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
24. I agree with your analysis, |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
29. I actually changed my mind tonight |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #29 |
79. I have another one of those husbands |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
31. Disagree with you on Dodd, I think he can offer much of what we want if he |
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AikidoSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
32. I wonder what you would say of Gore's chances if he should leap into the fray.... |
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Gelliebeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
35. I agree with you |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
40. Edwards is the number-three candidate? I thought he was the frontrunner. |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
41. Thanks for the recap. I missed the debates. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
42. Thank you for checking in |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
43. Isnt Edwards the front runner in Iowa? |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
45. So... who will Clinton or Obama pick for VP? Biden or Richardson? |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:34 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. If I were choosing between Biden and Richardson for Vice President |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:58 PM Response to Reply #48 |
63. I like the way Richardson adds both balance and contrast |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:35 AM Response to Reply #63 |
103. Richardson is Pro-Death |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 05:24 AM Response to Reply #103 |
108. I've never met a politician |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-28-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #108 |
128. This is what I mean by pro-death |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
47. It left me as undecided as I was before the debate |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
50. I agree with most of your points, but |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:43 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. You are no fan of Obama, you said in another post... |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:45 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Well, he's not a favorite of mine |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Check out the MSNBC opinion polls |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. I saw them, but I think they're just indicative of the fact that Obama has good web support |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. I have seen Obama speak live twice and met him for a second once |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:49 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. I've seen him speak live as well, and I also met him |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:55 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. I met him in a large crowd and he was mobbed |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:31 PM Response to Reply #61 |
81. I saw him live at his announcement speech in Springfield. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:37 AM Response to Reply #60 |
105. I suspect like most of them |
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nam78_two (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:57 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Heh captured my sentiments in a nutshell |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. He gave a good speech at the '04 convention. Reminded me of Clinton. |
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nam78_two (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:13 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. Heh yeah |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:21 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. That bothers me too. |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:03 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. I think Kerry is a good speaker too |
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nam78_two (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. And the hardcore crowd on the JK forum here |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:35 PM Response to Reply #72 |
84. yup! |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 11:38 PM Response to Reply #62 |
96. No you are not in the minority- Senator Kerry delivers good speeches. The media |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
52. What utter bullshit |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:34 PM Response to Reply #52 |
83. guess one of the "progressives" has weighed in here |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:49 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. That's it? |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 11:56 PM Response to Reply #86 |
100. Don't you just hate it |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 11:45 PM Response to Reply #83 |
98. Correct |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:42 AM Response to Reply #83 |
106. Ok, Here's why Kucinich is the best candidate |
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Buttercup McToots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 06:21 AM Response to Reply #106 |
110. Gosh |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
53. The format prevented meaningful comparisons between the candidates... |
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InvisibleTouch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 11:28 PM Response to Reply #53 |
94. Please tell me they didn't ask Edwards... |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 02:59 AM Response to Reply #94 |
107. complete video is on msnbc.com n/t |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 09:53 AM Response to Reply #94 |
116. Yep Edwards got the Hedge Funds and Haircut questions.... think he could ignored any better? |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #116 |
123. The Best Thing About The Questions To Him Last Night Regarding |
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koopie57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #94 |
120. Who asked Mrs. Edwards |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
55. I really object to the whole horse race analysis. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:01 PM Response to Reply #55 |
66. That would be nice. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:10 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. We're too young to be old and cynnical, love. |
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Reterr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:58 PM Response to Reply #73 |
87. Oh please |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 11:07 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Tofurkey is pretty good stuff. I really like the sausages best though. |
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Reterr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 11:19 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. That looks delicious |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 11:24 PM Original message |
I always make lentil loaf on Thanksgiving. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 06:02 AM Response to Original message |
109. Thank god |
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nam78_two (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 11:24 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. Off topic but |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 11:25 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. We had pie too, but I missed getting a pic of it. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 07:07 AM Response to Reply #55 |
113. Asking who did best is hardly obfuscating the issues or paralyzing debate |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 07:45 AM Response to Reply #55 |
114. I have to say |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
65. Obama did well. Not perfect but held his own. However he isn't electable |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. So black Americans should forget for the moment about the presidency |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:08 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Not at all 'forget' about it. I would vote for Obama with absolutely no qualms |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:22 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. Changes need to be pursued, not waited for |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:38 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. I absolutely agree but I still prefer to address reality as it exists. |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:33 PM Response to Reply #65 |
82. He scores the highest of all our candidates across the board. more than electable. |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 11:41 PM Response to Reply #65 |
97. I really do think you're wrong about the Af. American thing. |
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nam78_two (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
70. Do you remember Jon Stewart saying on Crossfire |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
75. I found it underwhelming overall... |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
78. I agree. Now go out and tell MSNBC who keep trashing Obama |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
89. I can agree w/your assessment, but this is Round One... |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
91. My husband said Richardson sounded like a Republic. |
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jodini (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #91 |
124. Richardson |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
99. KICK! (for Obama!) |
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Hidden Stillness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
101. Most Pleasant Surprise: Biden (!!) |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
102. I wish I had taped it ... |
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Norrin Radd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-28-07 04:06 AM Response to Reply #102 |
127. It's on YouTube: |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 06:45 AM Response to Original message |
111. Thanks for spending all that time writing what was in my mind. |
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Ben Masel (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 06:50 AM Response to Original message |
112. DrugWar |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
117. Dodd reminds me of Gephardt... |
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118. Edwards did pretty well |
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122. We thought Obama's defense of abortion rights was quite well stated |
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126. Obama and Dennis are my favorite candidates. But Obama didn't have a good night. |
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