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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 12:26 PM
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The second lien sticking-point
From Financial Times Alphaville --

Just a datapoint for you, as the debate over the US Treasury’s Hamp programme rages on.

As a reminder, the Home Affordable Modification Plan aims to help keep people in their houses primarily by lowering interest rate payments. It’s not had a lot of success so far, so people are starting to look at possible ways to rejig the programme. One of those is principal forgiveness, instead of just forbearance, for underwater homeowners.

But there’s one big thing standing in the way of principal reduction; second lien mortgages, or second mortgages taken out on a property (like secured loans on mortgaged properties in the UK).

Normally second lien mortgages rank subordinate to the first mortgage (first lien). In principle, that means if the property is sold or the borrower defaults, the first lien lender is first in line to get the resulting money, followed by the second lien lender.

When mortgage modifications like Hamp come into play, that traditional priority order is reversed. The borrower is paying the Hamp-modified (i.e. lower) first lien amount, and the full second lien amount, so the second lien effectively becomes senior to the first.

When principal reduction comes into play, the problem becomes even starker. Current rules say that first lien mortgages can’t be written down before the second.

So second lien loans are a rather big-stumbling block in the Treasury’s mortgage programme. To make matters worse, as we’ve noted before, banks are some of the biggest holders of second mortgages.

That means they’re basically disincentivised to modify or write-down first mortgages, at the expense of second ones. Thus, Bank of America to our knowledge is the only bank to have signed up for the second lien portion of the Hamp (called 2MP) so far.

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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 12:31 PM
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1. I don't understand how a second lien holder
can become senior. Doesn't make sense, and I'm in the Real Estate biz. You'd think second lien holders would be more willing to write down. When first lien forecloses, or there is a short sale, the second gets almost nothing for a payoff. You could owe $80,000 on the second and they would have to accept $3,000.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 12:53 PM
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2. The second lien holder probably figures that they'll get more by forcing the issue
If the second lien holder forces the borrower to foreclosure they may not get much in a non-recourse mortgage state.

But in a recourse mortgage state they can get a judgement against the borrower and force bankruptcy. So if the borrower has any other assets they may recover more.

Also, there is a good probability that if the second lien holder doesn't let the mortgage modification to go through, the borrower will decide to cope with the debt, rather than go to foreclosure and bankruptcy.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 12:57 PM
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3. A lot of seconds are 15-year
so the payment is still pretty high (mine is). Also, I keep hearing how going after the borrower for the shortage isn't always worth it for the lender.
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