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leftyladyfrommo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 03:41 PM Original message |
Need help in an argument. PETA - can anyone think of any |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. Oh, this should be good. n/t |
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leftyladyfrommo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 03:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Honestly, I am not trying to start a fight. That argument just |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. Your support can be found in the dictionary under "disingenuity." |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
31. No PETA fan I, but I always thought that story smelled funny. Thanks; good info. nt |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:27 PM Response to Reply #31 |
45. Yeah, love 'em or hate 'em, let's at least speak the truth, right? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
4. PETA? Just say no. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
5. They hurt their cause far, far more than they help it. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
6. While some chapters don't pick their fights well and get into trouble |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 03:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. That is well and good. Where do you stand on PETA releasing dogs from their crates at dog shows? |
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newfie11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Yeah some of those dogs were hit by cars. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:07 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Links? Support? Anything other than made-up hearsay? (nt) |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:17 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. I was ther and I saw it. |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. If it was as big an issue as you say it was, wouldn't the police have been called? |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Saw what? When? Done by whom? No media reports? |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:24 PM Original message |
THis is not worth my time. If you don't want to believe they do this shit Don't believe it |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
43. If you won't provide proof, give me the details and I'll research it myself. |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:31 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. I've tried googling this several times, and nothing comes up. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:33 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. "But I called the CCF bat-phone, and they SWEAR it's true!" |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:37 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. +1. nt |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. Do tell. I'm no fan of PETA, but I find some things very difficult to believe. nt |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:35 PM Response to Reply #35 |
49. For that last time. I was in OKC 10 years ago and at two different dog shows this happened and I saw... |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:39 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Yeah, I still think you're making it up. n/t |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. Google returns nothing useful on the following search string: |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 09:10 PM Response to Reply #49 |
81. More googling turns up nothing like what you claim. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 05:24 PM Response to Reply #26 |
71. And no media covered it? I'm calling BS. |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. Because of PETA? |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
60. Crickets? Quelle surprise! (nt) |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. I don't believe PETA did that. |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. Do you have any documented occurrences of PETA |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. "We don't need no stinkin' FACTS! We've got RUMORS!" |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:18 PM Response to Reply #16 |
29. I was at dog shows and saw them releasing dogs 2 different times. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. "Them" who? |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. No you weren't. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. QED! |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. Which shows? When? Where? |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. When and where? No PETA fan am I, but I don't like disinformation, either. nt |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 05:25 PM Response to Reply #29 |
72. And nobody wrote an article, took a picture or posted a credible account online. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 08:37 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. I'm sure it's because all the media are in PETA's pocket. |
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leftyladyfrommo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 11:55 AM Response to Reply #29 |
94. I do know this - people here in KC that go to dog shows are all |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #94 |
103. "animal rights terrorists" -- Agenda much? (nt) |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Do you have any proof that this actually happened? |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:16 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Sung to the tune of "I Guess That's Why They Call It The Blues": |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
34. I was there I saw it. What more proof do I need than my own eyes? What proof do you have that it |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. You make the claim, you back it up. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:39 PM Response to Reply #34 |
52. When and where, and I will Google it myself? Just a city and a date, even a month |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 06:17 PM Response to Reply #34 |
77. Oklahoma City in 2000, right? Which dog show? (nt) |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:53 PM Response to Reply #7 |
61. Uh, did you read the words "stupid stunts?" |
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SoCalNative (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:04 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Um actually I detest PETA |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
59. The few times I eat meat a year, I'm with you |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
8. Let's see: they're not as bad as the Nazis. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. PETA-Godwin in 8 posts: A new DU record! (nt) |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 09:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
87. ... |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. How dare you insult the survivors of the Holocaust by comparing PETA to nazis!!!!1one n/t |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #24 |
46. What was that muffled *pop* I just heard? |
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mstinamotorcity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
11. Look I get tired |
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SoCalNative (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Sorry but I like animals |
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mstinamotorcity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. And I put you |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
42. Deleted message |
mstinamotorcity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:40 PM Response to Reply #42 |
53. NO the idiot is a person |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
44. You just blew up Google Translate. Congrats. n/t |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
12. Why don't we start with some facts. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Specifically, try this link: |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
17. I googled Peta + accomplishments |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:13 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. What is this "Google" of which you speak, wizard?! |
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Luciferous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 09:32 PM Response to Reply #17 |
88. +1 |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
36. PETA does one thing right: they document organizations not following animal polices, rules & laws |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Agreed. I'm not a fan of their Ads/Marketing, but... |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
54. They don't do any good. Killing animals is consistent with their |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:48 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Why are you repeating that falsehood? PETA does not oppose domestication. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:57 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. You've got a long, long wait ahead of you for a response. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:59 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Oh, I anticipate the crickets. That's the only support I've ever seen here. |
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Lisa0825 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 09:23 PM Response to Reply #63 |
86. Ignrid Newkirk has said "our goal is total animal liberation." |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
57. Doesn't matter to me .. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
58. You're not losing it. They've always been bat shit crazy. n/t |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:57 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Psychoanalysis via TCP/IP? Sounds like Dr. Frist on Terri Schiavo! |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 05:01 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. Last year, somebody on here said that.. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 05:06 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Your point? n/t |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 05:28 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. My point is that .. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 05:36 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Ok. But so is PETA, n/t |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 05:52 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. My point exactly... |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 05:11 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Well, it's true that my cat is more valuable to me than your child. n/t |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
66. Nice hit and run post |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 05:03 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. At least the first two words of the title were honest. (nt) |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
69. People Eating Tasty Animals? |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
76. Those people you are arguing with are some sick puppies |
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Generic Other (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
79. Does PETA really euthanize most of the animals they rescue? |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 09:05 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Nah, it's a lie that Richard Berman and the CCF are paid to spread. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 09:12 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. "I'm shocked that so many DUers fall for this disinformation from an obviously right-leaning source. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 09:21 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Bah, don't get all jaded and bitter on me now, Forkboy. :-) |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 09:35 PM Response to Reply #84 |
89. Too late. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 09:41 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Curses! If only I'd arrived seconds earlier, he could have been saved. |
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yewberry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 09:14 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. No. |
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leftyladyfrommo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 10:33 AM Response to Reply #79 |
92. No, I don't think it is a lie. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 02:58 PM Response to Reply #92 |
102. Think harder, then. Try reading some of the many links posted. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 03:45 PM Response to Reply #92 |
105. It's pretty clear that you had no intention of trying to learn anything in this thread. |
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Generic Other (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 06:47 PM Response to Reply #105 |
108. I just had a student send me links to negative articles so I was curious |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
85. Hit. run. Staple your finger. |
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leftyladyfrommo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
91. Sorry, I just got back to a computer. I don't have one at home. |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 10:36 AM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Your questions were answered in posts 12, 17, and 19. |
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leftyladyfrommo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 11:57 AM Response to Reply #93 |
95. Those are from a PETA site. That won't work. |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. They list their accomplishments. That's what you asked for. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 02:50 PM Response to Reply #95 |
99. What a crock of shit. This was an incredibly disingenuous OP. |
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leftyladyfrommo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 10:48 AM Response to Reply #99 |
110. You can be as sarcastic as you want but I have been thru pages |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 03:47 PM Response to Reply #95 |
106. Thank you for showing everyone what your real goal was in this thread. |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
97. They helped bust an exotics trader in Texas -- |
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leftyladyfrommo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
98. Everything I can find says PETA euthanizes 85% of the animals |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 02:54 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. Yippee! More source-free, context-free assertions. |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 03:05 PM Response to Reply #98 |
104. Yes, PETA secretly is on a mission to kill all animals |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 03:48 PM Response to Reply #98 |
107. "Everything I can find"....riiiiiight. |
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yewberry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 11:50 PM Response to Reply #98 |
109. Did you not read *anything* in this thread? |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 10:55 AM Response to Reply #98 |
111. PETA owns 93% of all factory farms. They want veal served in all school cafeterias. Hitler belonged |
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Therellas (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
101. better than abandonment. |
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