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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 02:54 PM
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The Scary, Growing GOP Fringe
They are sliding to the right,further and further.


A new poll conducted by Research 2000 and commissioned by the liberal activist site DailyKos found that:

* 63% of Republicans believe Barack Obama is a socialist.
* 39% of Republicans believe he should be impeached.
* 36% believe he was not born in the United States (22% are not sure)
* 31% believe he is “a racist who hates White people”
* 24% believe President Obama “wants the terrorists to win” (33% are not sure)
* 23% say they want their state to secede from the Union.

And that’s not all—wade into the culture war issues of gay civil rights, abortion and the role of religion in society in the poll and things get even more discouraging/validating, depending on your perspective.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-02-03/the-gops-radical-mainstream/?cid=hp:beastoriginalsC1
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 02:56 PM
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1. Growing mold.
Horseshit.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 02:56 PM
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2. But isn't the number of registered Republicans declining?
If I'm right, it just means the sane ones have left and the lunatics are left to run the Republican asylum.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 02:59 PM
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3. This country is totally f'kd up.
I really do not see any way forward with such a large percent of the country who think like that.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:03 PM
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4. The er... idiots do know that you have to have grounds for impeachment
Don't they? What are their grounds.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:11 PM
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10. I heard one reason this morning...
Treason... because he isn't actively seeking to prosecute Bush, et al. Rich, isn't it?
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:19 PM
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13. You don't need grounds to impeach, just a majority of the House
"An impeachable offense is whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at a given moment in history." - Gerald Ford (1970)
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:04 PM
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5. Hey - if only 23% of the red states WOULD secede, we remaining would be in much better shape.
Edited on Thu Feb-04-10 03:05 PM by T Wolf
I say, let them go.
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mudplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:20 PM
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14. "23% say they want their state to secede from the Union" How much do
you want to bet that the vast majority of the people that expressed this opinion live in a rural state that receives $5 to $10 for every $1 they pay in federal tax?

I say, let them opt out of the federal tax system AND the federal subsidy system. They can be independent in the sense of taxes AFTER they pay us back for the money we've spent on their Interstate Highways, airports, and hospitals.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 04:07 PM
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19. No state does THAT well receiving Federal funds.
The top is just over $2 received for every dollar paid.

But yep, most of 'em are Red states.
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mudplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:55 PM
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22. Well, two to one ratio, anyway. I live in New Mexico and we appreciate everything the other states
do for us.

New Mexico is the biggest beneficiary, with a federal spending-to-tax ratio of 2.00. That's another way of saying that for every tax dollar the federal government takes from the people of New Mexico, $2.00 in federal spending goes back into the state. This high ratio is the result of the state's relatively low FY 2004 per capita federal tax burden, 77 percent of the national average, and its large share of federal spending, 155 percent of the average per capita. A few states have lower per-capita taxes than New Mexico, and a few received more federal funds per capita, but when both flows are included in the calculation, New Mexico ranks highest. Other states with high federal spending-to-tax ratios are Alaska (1.87) and West Virginia (1.83).
http://www.allbusiness.com/personal-finance/individual-taxes/4071005-1.html

Hyperbole is my middle name
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Laura902 Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:06 PM
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6. I would personally
love to see all the nutty religious conservative right secede............and by secede I mean put everyone of them on a a bunch of very remote small islands far far away and make the republican party sane. It would end up like Easter Island
:popcorn:
but that's just a dream
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:11 PM
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11. Probably end up more like North Korea.
For all their talk about the left being communist. The right are pretty determined to force people in too seeing things their way.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 09:32 PM
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25. A belated welcome, Laura902...
that's been a fantasy of mine for over a decade. :hi:
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:07 PM
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7. I cringe
at their fringe.

I'm sure we all know Repukes who fit the profile, sadly...
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:10 PM
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8. This is to be expected in a society where...
The-powers-that-be make sure the masses are uneducated, have no respect for education, and campaign against intellectualism to the point where colleges and universities are considered liberal organizations.

A TeaBagger cousin of mine says Obama's degrees are "just pieces of paper" and that people with degrees are no smarter than anyone else. Of course this was in an email rife with misspellings, and in all caps with sparse punctuation... except for the plethora of exclamation points. I'm series!!!1!!1!!!
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:11 PM
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9. What they say means what they want you to hear.
You cannot poll republicans on what they believe, only what their lying.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:14 PM
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12. That's not fringe, that's the middle of the carpet.
Sadly, the fringe is the halfway sane portion. The solidly nuts is surprising but hardly close to shocking but the real issue is adding the maybe's to the usual 30ish percent because that shows that the so called "mainstream" Republican is teetering on the edge of rational big time.

Between the true believer nutjobs and the vast national belief in the utterly disproven supply side Reagonomics, ever increasing corporate influence, the general acceptance of war is peace, and declining interest in civil and economic justice we have a very uphill battle and it is past time to stop pretending we can negotiate in good faith with insanity, unmitigated greed, and generally Dark Ages belief systems.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 04:00 PM
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18. Yep. People forget that the party has been shrinking in numbers
The sane republicans started jumping ship back during the end of Junior's second term. The biggest exodus came when Palin was nominated for VP. Now, the lunatics are running the asylum.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:20 PM
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15. How many people is it? Who's willing to call themselves a Republican these days?
I keep getting the feeling that we'll find out this poll is total crap six months from now.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:55 PM
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17. How many people listen to Limbaugh, Beck, and Hannity
Because anyone that believes those guys is seriously dangerous in my book.
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nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:48 PM
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16. lots of projection, huh?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 04:08 PM
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20. Pay CLOSE ATTENTION to those numbers
Take the top one off, and the average number of Republicans who think batshit crazy thoughts is about 25%.

That's the base. They ALWAYS get out and vote. If it is raining live jaguars on evection day, they'll go out with cement umbrellas to make sure they cast a ballot.

Those people, that 25% and their dedication to voting GOP, is what makes them the most formidable voting bloc in the country. All a national GOP candidate has to do in order to get that 25% is say the right things about fetuses and Jesus, and it's in the bank.

Furthermore, that GOP candidate now needs only 26% to win, while the Democrat needs the standard 51%.

The SCOTUS decision on Bush v. Gore is to blame, and only a fool would deny that there has been widespread vote fraud in pretty much every election since 2000.

But if you want to know why the GOP was able to hold sway for so long despite being a minority party in America, look to that 25%.

It's one of the main reasons why my gorge rises when I hear liberals and progressives claim they won't vote next time around because they're pissed at Obama or whomever. I understand pissed, but when we don't show up, that 25% does, and we wind up with truly evil people in positions of power.

Decisions are made by those who show up. That 25% shows up. Every time.

Food for thought.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 09:43 PM
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26. The Teabaggers are in NahVegas for their convention,
beginning today. Wanna come help build a wall to corral them, 'cause whoever is there is part of the nutcases. :hi:
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 04:09 PM
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21. Of course the public mind is horrendously askew within such a densely propagandized social climate
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 09:08 PM
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23. This is PROOF that
the media is influencing voters' opinions, and not in a good way.

That BS about Obama being a racist originated with Glen Beck. The very idea is patently ridiculous, given the President's background, but Beck said it and now a significant percentage of the electorate believes it!
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 09:26 PM
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24. And the Dems are 2 steps behind them on their continued charge to the 'right'.....
Edited on Thu Feb-04-10 09:27 PM by Edweird
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