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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 09:59 PM
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The right is learning the language to defeat banking reform.
Edited on Mon Feb-01-10 10:02 PM by TheBigotBasher
The Republican pollster who got the whole GOP talking of government takeover of health is now schooling Republicans with the words to use to make banking reform unpopular.


http://gawker.com/5461788/get-used-to-these-words/gallery/

It makes me mad that the unmitigated disaster of the Global banking system, that destroyed the jobs and lives of so many, not just in the US when the system collapsed is going to be defended and backed by wordplay to strike fear in to the hearts of American voters.

Well this time use their words against them.

The banking collapse and the bailouts hurt all of us. Jobs were lost. Homes were lost. People were hurt. Lives were destroyed. A solution is needed to ensure that tis never happens again. New ideas, not more of the same. Doing nothing about the broken financial industry while every other hard working person, and those who would wish to be able to work hard suffer is not a solution. The lack of transparency and oversight which was supported by special interests caused the problem. It is time to get the right solutions so that people can get back to work.

More
http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/get_ready_for_the_gops_new_talking_points_20100201
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/01/frank-luntz-pens-memo-to_n_444332.html
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 10:13 PM
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1. I saw an ad about the bank reform that really disgusted me, calling it a $4 Trillion dollar bailout
I'm not kidding, I saw it on NBC during the Chris Mathews show last Sunday. It was an ad that was all text on screen. At one point it outrageously claimed the banking reform will would be another $4 TRILLION dollar bailout to the banks.

Where in the world are those liars getting $4 trillion from?

I can't remember the whole thing, but I think that the ad also failed to mention that the banks oppose the bank reform bill, and I think it may have also tried to paint it as big government regulation killing jobs.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 10:19 PM
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2. All the talking points.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/01/frank-luntz-pens-memo-to_n_444332.html

All the correct wording, big government take over. Another bail out to the banks.

They live for the lies while people go homeless.
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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 10:26 PM
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3. Well, it's a G20 initiative,
so GOP commentators have nothing to say about it.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 10:29 PM
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4. They will however
and they will try and turn this in to yet another example of "Socialist big government".

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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 10:39 PM
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5. LOL they can squawk all they want, but
it'll be done over their heads.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 11:04 PM
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6. Luntz is the man who helped
redefine the language of health care reform. A year ago the Republicans were moribund. I would not under estimate him.
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stillwaiting Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 08:04 AM
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10. You are assuming that Democrats (a majority of them and some in leadership) wanted REAL reform
Instead of excuses to continue walking reform back to what Repubs wanted in '93, Romney got in Massachusetts, and above all else what the big boys and girls on Wall Street and in industry wanted.

They didn't fight for reform at all. Not even a little. They DID fight to prevent real reform on a few occasions though.
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JamesBurnham Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 07:02 AM
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7. Is Obama to be trusted
having Summers and Geithner still whispering in his ear?

And is Volcker any better?

And backing Bernanke for another term?!

There is a split on the Right: those that remain the traditional banksters lackey spokesmen like McConnell, and those like Isa who see the pernicious effect of remaining the government sponsors and spokesmen for the bankers.

Where is a similar split on the Left?

The Banksters have made a Devil's pact with Obama. Leave us with the money we stole in '06-09, and we'll play along with your ability to keep blaming Bush/Cheney for the whole mess, instead of going after the real culprits: the oligarchy of financial parasites that infect Wall Street and the government regardless of what party is in power.

When is the Far Left gonna quit backing Obama solely because he isnt Bush/Cheney and wake up to the fact that the vampire squid doesn't have an ideology except as Hank Paulson declared before Congress last week "All money is green."
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 07:34 AM
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8. This is the question many
of us want to know.
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 08:02 AM
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9. "Never Again" - oh, that's good. This is what John Stewart and Bill Maher talk about.
Republicans / conservatives spend a LOT of time researching and honing these words.

From the party which brought you the S&L bailout, "Never Again"...

The thing you have to appreciate is how these words "package" ideas. They frame the argument, appeal to their 'base', make an implied promise of action (every one of which will be totally broken), and casts the opposition in a light which makes Democrats responsible for everything.

They crank them out from the word processors in tax-deducted "educational institutions" of CATO and Heritage Institutes, churn them through their "focus groups" on the many talk radio stations, then wait to see which one are easily shot down and which one stick on the blogisphere.

They then take the winners and then weave them together, usually 2-3 in a single sentence. These are then spun into narratives which are used on any of the day-to-day issues which pop up through the news to create talk radio, Fox News, etc.

And that's why they "think like that!"
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