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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:06 PM
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Pains in the ass, squealing like pigs
Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 12:09 PM by bigtree
from Think Progress: http://thinkprogress.org/2010/01/13/house-senate-pain-ass/


Senior House Democrat: ‘The Senate is just a pain in the ass to everybody in the world as far as I can tell.’

With President Obama indicating “that he intends to use the Senate bill as the framework” for the final health care reform legislation, House Democrats are venting “their frustration with the direction of the debate.” House Ways and Means Chairman Charlie Rangel (D-NY) told reporters yesterday that there is “a problem on both sides of the Capitol. A serious problem.” An anonymous senior House Democrat, however, placed particular blame on the Senate: (http://www.rollcall.com/news/42218-1.html)

“The Senate is just a pain in the ass to everybody in the world as far as I can tell. I’m so angry that I just wish from now on that we’d just find out what it is that Lieberman and Nelson will let us have,” the senior lawmaker said. “But we’re not giving up on anything in the House.”

“We keep hearing them squeal like pigs in the Senate that they had a tough time getting to 60,” Weiner said. “Well, it wasn’t particularly a picnic for us to get to 218. Generally speaking, the Senate kabuki dance has lost its magic on those of us in the House.”


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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:13 PM
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1. Time to let the House stand up and demand that their voices be heard. If the Senate wants to kill
the bill let the blood be on their hands.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:17 PM
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2. Too much power in too few hands
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:34 PM
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4. Correct..correct. Get rid of scags like Nelson and Liberman
who think they are above everybody else. I think a lot of senators have let this little bit of power go to their heads. They know it takes a heck of a lot money to unseat them. So they say and do what they please. If there was only some way to put a lid on the money allowed to be spent in ads, commercials etc we would see different faces in the senate. Ones who deserve to be there.
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DisgustedInMN Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:33 PM
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3. Good...
Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 12:33 PM by DisgustedInMN
... perhaps the House will do the right thing and MAKE the Senate kill this raping of We the People.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:39 PM
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5. Do the Senate Dems even understand how much this thing has damaged the Party? Don't they care?
It's as if there's a death wish on the part of the Blue Dogs, and they really do want to be in charge of the Minority Party, again.

They couldn't have handled this worse. It's like slow torture. Motherf-ckers.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:48 PM
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6. Two or three of them dont care! One of them is an Ind and not
a Dem. I think it would be really stupid for the Dems to have spent the entire year arguing HC and end up throwing everything away because they didn't get what they wanted.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:56 PM
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8. It's turned into a lose-lose proposition. If it passes, nobody will be happy, if it
doesn't, only the Republicans will be happy.

It's over. They blew it - they should have let us known this needed 60 votes because it isn't revenue neutral and it can't be done by emergency appropriations (if indeed that's really true).

Also, there are things the leadership should have known the Blue Dogs wouldn't support, and there are things the Party base couldn't compromise on. They should have had a package ready that fits both sides of the box, or not done this thing. Obama and the Democratic leadership have used up their political capital on nothing. Historically bad political management of this Bill. Appalling.
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:49 PM
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7. Anthony Weiner email this morning - and a poll
http://countdowntohealthcare.com/

Many of us are growing more anxious by the day that the negotiations to put the House and Senate health bills together will make too many compromises in favor of a Senate bill we know is weaker than the one passed in the House.

But there’s a limit to how many compromises we can accept before the health care bill becomes a reform bill in name only. That’s why I will oppose the final bill unless it represents a genuine improvement on the Senate bill.

I believe that the bill we passed in the House, though not perfect, would have been a major step forward in providing all Americans with quality, affordable health care that guarantees choice, and competition through a public option. Unless the final bill looks more like what we passed in the House, and less what we saw emerge from the Senate, I will not support it.

Do you agree? Cast your vote in the poll on this page and let me know what you think.

Anthony

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