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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:16 PM Original message |
The only REAL public option is a Medicare buy in. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yes. The bureaucracy is already in place. nt |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
2. A veto will not be required. |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
3. Lincoln and Landrieu were even for it too |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
4. Obama could expand Medicare with an executive order, hell even a SIGNING STATEMENT |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Or reconcilliation in the Senate |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. a lot would be forgiven if he did that. |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. The Senate can filibuster the Report of the Reconciliation. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:55 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. the Democrats seem to be congenitally incapable of any kind of strategery |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 04:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
24. Yes indeed. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 05:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
27. No he could NOT. The President does not legislate. |
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nightrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
5. I would have liked to believe Obama would have signed a Medicare buy-in. Why didn't |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Lieberman is worse than a rattlesnake. There are no words... |
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nightrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. granted on Lieberman... and I'm serious about the questions about Obama's values/preferences |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I would like to think Obama adheres to the old fashioned view |
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nightrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. yes, my sense is that Obama was involved in the non-passage of the Medicare buy-in. |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 04:22 PM Response to Reply #6 |
25. Don't forget what Feingold said on the topic. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
9. They could still do it with reconciliation, but I get the feeling |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. The Senate can filibuster the Report of the Reconciliation. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:47 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Let them! |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. To be honest, I'd love to see them turn the Krieg Lights on Lieberman |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
14. So is that the deal Obama cut with the insurance industry and Big Pharma |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:52 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. 20 million from the drug and medical insurance companies. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
17. obama chickened out and we will pay the price |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
18. Obama has my full support on vetoing the bill. |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
22. no way Obama will veto this bill |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Sadly, you are absolutely correct. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
23. Would expanding Medicare coverage require a new bill? And if so, cant it be passed via |
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jtrockville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
28. I would support a medicare buy-in. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
29. what do you think the monthly premium would/should be? |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 06:25 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. IMO The monthly premium should be linked to income in some way. This is NOT unfair |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 10:53 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. that's not a number. |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
31. If Obama vetoed the HC bill, I might gain a modicum of hope, nt |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
32. If your scenario is correct than ABSOLUTELY would I support a veto |
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