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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:02 PM
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Where should the funding cuts be? The Forever War: Afghanistan or Education: United States?
It's not a secret that education across the United States is suffering huge budget cuts as the jobless, recoveryless recovery continues. Is this right? Is American education really in such good shape it can stand these cuts and still maintain (or work to achieve) the quality we want for our children? Or will these cuts lower the quality of public schools, further opening the door for charter school advocates like, say, Arne Duncan and Barack Obama? Is this what you expected when a Democrat was elected to the White House and Democratic majorities were sent to the House and the Senate? And what should it be? Cuts in education or cuts in the Forever War?

http://www.kansascity.com/115/story/1672709.html

TOPEKA | Kansas advocates for schools, state employees, the disabled and the elderly announced Friday that they will join forces to fight new state spending cuts.

The coalition, called Kansans for Quality Communities, said lawmakers should focus on finding new tax revenue, either through the elimination of existing tax exemptions and breaks, or through tax increases.

“These cuts have gone too far,” said Mike Hammond, director of the Association of Community Mental Health Centers of Kansas, a member of KQC. “We can no longer cut our way out of this crisis.”

Kansas lawmakers start their 2010 session Monday, and already lawmakers and groups such as KQC are staking out their positions on the year’s big topic, a more than $300 million budget deficit. Lawmakers have already cut nearly $1 billion in spending in the face of steep revenue declines.

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http://www2.timesdispatch.com/rtd/news/local/education/article/GOVS08_20100107-221803/316135/

Chesterfield cuts could force closure of governor’s schools

Central Virginia's two full-time governor's schools could face severe changes or even closure if Chesterfield County eliminates its participation in them.

Chesterfield school officials sent a survey to its employees Tuesday asking them to choose ways to cut nearly $40 million from its proposed fiscal 2011 budget.

Among the many options is to stop sending students to Appomattox Regional Governor's School for Arts and Technology in Petersburg and Maggie L. Walker Governor's School for Government and International Studies in Richmond.

In an impact statement accompanying the survey, Chesterfield acknowledges that if it ends its participation at the governor's schools, a $2 million savings, "this option would likely result in both schools closing."

Chesterfield is the largest school division represented at both schools. This year, the county has 224 students at Maggie Walker and 129 at Appomattox. Overall, that represents about one-third of the total students at each school.

"As the largest contributor of students and funds to these regional schools, we understand that not participating would have deep ramifications," Chesterfield schools spokesman Shawn Smith said yesterday. "It would put a tremendous burden on other school divisions, one that we realize may not be sustainable in these economic times."

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http://www.wtop.com/?nid=600&sid=1858156

The recession is moving to the head of the class
January 7, 2010 - 4:25pm

Hank Silverberg, wtop.com

FALLS CHURCH, Va. -- The recession is about to hit your child's classroom in Virginia.

Fairfax School Superintendent Jack Dale has unveiled a $2.3 billion budget proposal for the 2011 school year for the region's largest school district that includes $104 million in cuts.

"This is the worst situation we have ever been in" Dale says. "This is about the quality of life and the quality of school system that the community in Fairfax expects. It's not about the tax rate."

Among the things on the chopping block: 594 jobs, including 81 in the central office, elementary school foreign language programs, summer school and all freshman sports.

Class size would increase by one student per class, all salaries would be frozen for the second consecutive year.

The budget assumes there will be no more cuts in state aide which is far from certain, and that the Fairfax Board of Supervisors will approve a $57 million increase in the county's allocation to schools. If that doesn't happen, Dale says there will be more cuts.

Fairfax is the first northern Virginia school district to lay out a draft budget, and Dale predicts his neighbors will have similar cuts.

The school board will be holding public hearings on the budget. Several of them say parents will have to deal with the economic reality.

Board Member Tessie Wilson says it will be really rough for those facing layoffs like custodians because neighboring districts are also making cuts and there will be fewer places for them to get another job.

Board Member Stu Gibson is hoping for some help from Richmond even though the state's nearly $4 billion budget deficit could mean cuts to public education.

"In the state of Thomas Jefferson, how can public education not be a core service?"

Students in Fairfax could be facing higher fees for sports and college oriented tests like Advanced Placement and PSATs.

School Board Budget Chairman Jane Strauss says the superintendent is on the mark when he talks about quality of life.

"The quality of our schools is what attracts business and employment for our citizens."

The Fairfax County School District is the largest in Virginia. It's projected to have 175,333 students by the 2010-2011 school year, an increase of 1,760 over the current school year.

The board is expected to present its approved plan to the Board of Supervisors by Feb. 4. But a final budget could have to wait until after the General Assembly approves a state budget in March.

This type of scenario could be played out in most area school districts as they prepare for 2011.
(Copyright 2009 by WTOP. All Rights Reserved.)
Hank Silverberg, wtop.com

FALLS CHURCH, Va. -- The recession is about to hit your child's classroom in Virginia.

Fairfax School Superintendent Jack Dale has unveiled a $2.3 billion budget proposal for the 2011 school year for the region's largest school district that includes $104 million in cuts.

"This is the worst situation we have ever been in" Dale says. "This is about the quality of life and the quality of school system that the community in Fairfax expects. It's not about the tax rate."

Among the things on the chopping block: 594 jobs, including 81 in the central office, elementary school foreign language programs, summer school and all freshman sports.

Class size would increase by one student per class, all salaries would be frozen for the second consecutive year.

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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:05 PM
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1. Education is funded by the states. Are you proposing a federal takeover?
Otherwise why is this a tradeoff?
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:08 PM
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3. Money budgeted for the Forever War can be shifted to the states.
Edited on Sat Jan-09-10 01:09 PM by Karmadillo
http://usgovinfo.about.com/b/2009/02/23/education-stimulus-funding-state-by-state.htm

The 2009 economic stimulus package includes about $100 billion for retaining teachers and improving the nation’s overall education system. Now the Department of Education has released estimates of how big a piece of that stimulating education pie each state will get.

"The single best way to stimulate the economy -- short-term and long-term—is to keep teachers teaching and keep kids learning," said Secretary of Education Arne Duncan in an address announcing the state-by-state Title I education funding table. "States are hurting, and schools across America are facing catastrophic cuts. We need to invest this money quickly, thoughtfully and transparently to protect kids, create jobs and drive reforms."

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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:21 PM
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4. That is a one time temporary funding
Nationalizing education is a great idea if you want creationism taught everywhere. Heck those loonies decided to make women pay extra for an abortion rider. I'm sure they would love for everyone to learn abstinence too.
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:40 PM
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6. Given the duration of the recession, couldn't there be a second temporary funding measure?
Or a third, if necessary? It's a matter of priorities.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:58 PM
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7. Guess so. I just saw a post that federal unemployment benefits were more than federal employees
I wonder how long we can keep this up. Borrowing so much money is going to increase rates forcing mortgage rates up. The housing tax credit is scheduled to expire soon. Our spending will collapse the housing market again if we don't watch out.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:06 PM
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2. Let other countries pay for education.
H1B visas allow for a cheaper work force after all.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 02:31 PM
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8. This is the line of information that will work with "just folks", red, blue, or other.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:21 PM
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5. Since we now appear to completely rolled over for Conservatism,
I assume just like sending Medicaid back to the states
it follows logic that Education become the "ward"of the
states.". Up until now, the Federal Government has
been able to have some say since it does make a contribution
to the educational system in each state.

I am very slowly reaching the conclusion: The Tax Cut, Tax Cut
Tax Cut crowd always reign supreme we are beginning to look
duplicitous when we talk this pie in the sky dream for
our country.

People will say--oh yes, that is good.---just do not ask
me to pay for it.

I am also reaching a conclusion it is cruel to promise
people goods and services knowing full well Congress will
not fund it. This business of giving a few crumbs to
the few while others hurt is destructive to our Democracy.

We have to start working with the people out in the country
changing hearts and minds. Otherwise, let's just do what
we can to get this country back on track and hope for the
best.

Nothing is free. Everything costs money. Until we all
see something as a common good and are willing to pay (taxes)
to support it, everything is just a pipe dream.

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