When you leave DU...?

[kentuck]

What do you want people to say about you? Will they remember you fondly or will they breathe a sigh of relief? Or will you not give a damn what people think? I hope we can all say it has been a good experience.

kentuck











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Peace

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

1. When I leave, I won't care in the slightest.

It's an internet message board.

[LooseWilly]

42. I think that's for the best.

Just saying...

[blondeatlast]

2. "The name sounds familiar." If I can get that much, I'm good. nt

[nightrain]

3. yeah, kinda depends on how one conducts oneself here. If one is a jerk

and treats others poorly, then you'll get that back. On the otherhand, if one is respectful, you'll get that back too. Depends on which wolf at your door you feed, the nasty, hurt, angry, abusive one, or the respectful one.

[lyonspotter]

19. Actually, I've noticed a trend toward unprovoked aggression.

Not sure if anyone else has noticed it here on DU.

[nightrain]

23. like folks unable to contain/own their feelings? dumping on others?

[lyonspotter]

28. I would describe the groundswell of aggression like this...

...people seem, en masse, to be very critical of each other of late, and the expression of it is very rude. It reminds me of quarreling siblings. The lack of charitable response has had me scratching my head on more than one occasion recently, wondering if I will leave DU soon or just stick it out. I think people are perhaps understandably worried and depressed, but we shouldn't resort to immediate attack and assuming bad faith on the part of nearly every poster we may slightly disagree with.

If I do leave... Well, perhaps I'll just stick to watching the news clips that are posted in the video forum, but not entering into discussion any further... if the rudeness continues...

Given all that I wrote above, I'd like to say that I appreciate the tone with which you have addressed my first statement.

[nightrain]

48. sure. Thanks. I hope you feel heard. That's important. So, when

I hear you describe the aggression as similar to sibling rivalry, I ask myself, well, whose attention then are the sibs seeking, what is this symptom a manifestation of?

For myself, I have been reflecting on the amount of effort I gave to the Obama campaign last year and in 2008--donations of money, time--canvassing, holding houseparties, giving OFA feedback because I genuinely hoped that maybe this time an administration would be listening. Afterall, the outgoing message from OFA and Obama was--"we want to know what you are concerned about, we want your ideas, talk to us".

Well, he/they got plenty of feedback, and then over this past year didn't govern as he campaigned. The whole campaign team was switched out after the election and the bankers, Harvard smarties, and folks from the huge problem-making corporations came into the administration and were expected to find solutions to the problems they had created and benefitted from. (I got the first intimations that Obama was not able to handle conflict when he hired Geithner, Summers, Rahm and those folks, as well as having Rick Warren give the ?invocation? at the Inauguration). ("uh oh, Obama's not listening" = "Dad's not listening to me".)

So, there've been multiple examples over this past year when Obama's policy decisions go completely counter to majority public feedback he's gotten.

I imagine that there will be this "sibling rivalry" effect of a sense of betrayal by some, manifesting in aggression, and a counter action of support for Obama, those who have a hard time accepting the inevitable disillusionment, those who protect and defend Obama against criticism. I think we see that being acted out on DU, just like is happening "out there". And a functional leader would not be conflict averse, but would attempt to listen to both/all sides and then verbalize why he's making a particular decision. I think as a nation we are missing that piece. There's fury about being left out when he campaigned on transparency and then acts in a secretive manner. There's fury about hiding the corporate bribery going on.

Of course there's going to be rancour on DU. We're wanting to be heard, we're wanting not to be lied to. We're wanting this time to be different.

Some posters are able to contain/own their feelings better than others. Those that attack probably are feeling very hurt (on both sides).

If Obama is going to have a successful presidency, my hope is that he will start listening more intently, begin to tolerate conflict better, and let it happen. Let the airing of grievances happen, let the possible solutions be heard. All of them!

[CaliforniaPeggy]

4. Who knows?

Some will miss me, some will applaud...

:shrug:

[redwitch]

63. Everyone would miss you Peggy!

And anyone who applauded would be guaranteed an ass kicking by Skittles, yes indeed!

[Speck Tater]

5. When I leave DU nobody will notice. nt

[peace frog]

31. Ditto.

[Speck Tater]

50. What comes after "ditto"? "Tritto"? nt

[peace frog]

51. and then there's "fritto" and "fitto"

and "sitto" and "svitto"... :hi:

[Blasphemer]

57. Same here. Though I doubt I'll ever leave. nt

[seabeyond]

6. i like will you not give a damn. actually dead, you really wont give a damn, lol. nt

[canetoad]

7. I want people to say

"those fucking Australians, they don't have a clue about the greatest country on earth."

[Kaleva]

8. LOL

[Kaleva]

9. This belongs in the "When you leave DU" forum.

[Iggo]

10. They won't remember me at all.

Well, maybe six months later a couple of the metalheads might go, "Hey, wait a minute. Someone's missing..."

[PSzymeczek]

76. When I was gone

for a couple of years, I don't think anyone knew knew the difference.

[PSzymeczek]

77. Likewise

when I came back. No one cares one way or the other.

[PSzymeczek]

78. And no one gives a crap

that I posted that.

[Iggo]

80. LOL.

Thanks. :toast:

[jotsy]

11. I'm not sure that's the question I'd ask if I'm considering whether to stay or go.

There is a book I'd be surprised to learn you haven't read called Illusions, by Richard Bach. I understand that it was at one time the only piece of contemporary fiction to end with a comma.

As you are one of the first DUers to wish me a welcome and not all that long ago, understand you and your posts are something of a barometer for me. That's because you've earned my trust with good questions and a reasonable temperament when pushed to a defensive position.

Every case I have seen you make is made with a belief in where you stand and when the insecurity of others causes you to question the quality of who you are...I repeat, don't let em get you down.

You know who you are and that there is value in the view that is unique to you. I appreciate your efforts to share.

I can't deliver peace, its just too big and requires a collective beyond my meager means to gather, but if I by saying this I leave you with a little more peace of mind. YES, you are absolutely one of the good guys and a point of light I'd rather not be without.

In case this is my only opportunity to express my gratitude for your encouragement and support, tyvm.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

12. She was a vegetarian

I hope the mods didn't put any pepperoni on her pizza. :D

You're not saying, in a round about way, that you're leaving are you, kentuck?

[cliffordu]

13. I'll hang out for a day and watch the grave dancing....

Which, I am sure will be epic.

[Fuzz]

14. Um, don't care even a little bit actually.

;)

[frazzled]

15. I left for 5 years once

Didn't look back. I wasn't particularly fond of being pm'ed "I hope you burn in hell" by a perfect stranger. Whoa. That I don't need.

I don't know why I ever came back. It's crazier than ever. Sometimes you just have to express yourself, even if nobody reads it or people tell you to burn in hell. But since I came back a few years ago, I only make comments. I have not started a single thread on my own. I don't see the point in it. It's like a crazy magnet, no matter what side of the fence you're on. I don't feel I need to dominate a conversation by starting a thread. Someone else will eventually say what I'm thinking.

[canetoad]

22. Oooh, can you PM

me the name of the person who PMd that to you? I'll get them back for ya.

[salin]

53. Hi There!

I missed seeing you. I haven't had the time to post much over the last several years. Mostly do cursory reading (esp LBN, but also GD) first thing in the am, and when I get home from work. Cursory reads keep one from getting sucked into the dynamics that have often been wild and wooly.

When I do have more reading time - like you I often hang back and read - and eventually a point I might make gets made by someone else.

[Stevenmarc]

16. If you are concerned about what people will say when you leave DU, step away from the keyboard

[emilyg]

18. Yep.

[kentuck]

17. Thanks to everyone...

for your comments. I'm sure that for all the old timers, it has been very illustrative.

[Forkboy]

20. What people say about me can't be my problem.

But there are a some people here who I care about and who I know care about me, and I'd want those people to have any real info there might be about me if something happened.

Other than that, and no offense, but fuck all y'all. :P

[salin]

54. I would expect nothing different from you!

Except that I would think you might have a little sardonic fun on the party on the way out.

[Journeyman]

21. Three guys in a bar were discussing how they'd like to be remembered when they die. . .

One was a doctor. He said he'd like to be eulogized as someone who cared for the sick, helped when he could, and above all, did no harm.

The teacher sitting next to him said he'd like to be remembered for teaching people to read and think, and for improving so many lives.

They then turned to the bartender. "What about you, Dalton? What do you want people to say at your funeral."

"Only one thing," said the barkeep. "Look! He's moving!"

[flvegan]

24. Me? Likely "good riddance to bad rubbish"

[asdjrocky]

25. When I die, and when I'm gone...

There'll be one child born in this world to carry on.

[MUAD_DIB]

26. I'm not on enough for people to care, and it really doesn't matter

that much what people say to me when I am. I consider myself to be a realist, and what I read here sometimes leaves me scratching my head.

Is this the same place that I joined years before?

DU, although a great idea, is overpopulated with fly-off-the-handle armchair prima donnas.

[CakeGrrl]

27. I can't really give a damn, 'cause

I yam what I yam, inasmuch as my typed opinions can have a personality behind them (but admittedly I don't personalize my thoughts too much just because I don't think that's a great idea on the intertubes), and some may like what they read and some may not.

They'll say what they will - or nothing at all for all I'll know!

:evilgrin:

[FrenchieCat]

29. There would be grave dancing for days....

Great rejoice and much toasting!
....and my name would eventually be scrubbed from the many enemy lists
where my name appears first in some, if they aren't kept in alphabetical order.

Would I be sad because of it?

About as sad as I feel when I know all of my good underwear are not in my drawer,
but are in the laundry room one floor down.

[redwitch]

65. Well I don't think you should be THAT upset!

I hate it when all my good underwear is in the laundry. Well, good comfortable bras anyway. I have been known to sit down and cry. (I hate to do laundry. Not sure why, the machines do most of the work).

[donheld]

30. Who?

[Double T]

32. No one will notice when I leave because almost everyone has me on 'Ignore'.

When I leave I'll be made as hell and I won't give a damn any more!!

[salguine]

36. Ha! That's great. I'm sure a few people have me on "Ignore" too...which is only

fair, considering my Ignore list has swelled into the hundreds. (You're not on it.)

I wish there was a way you could see whose Ignore lists you're on. That would be entertaining...

[Double T]

52. It would be great to receive notifications when we were added to someone's 'Ignore' list.

Thanks for being one of the few that doesn't have me on 'Ignore'. I don't have anyone on 'Ignore', freedom of speech and expression rules.

[pipi_k]

67. I don't have either one of you on my ignore list...did I miss something?

Seriously, though...my ignore list is pretty small.

People don't make it to my list unless I feel they've acted like hugely obnoxious assholes. Not just in the heat of the moment, which I can understand, but some people want to act like idiots even when someone is trying to be reasonable and decent.

Anyway, neither of you is on my list.

[Raine]

33. No one will notice. nt

[Fearless]

34. Who cares. I value my life much higher than my participation on a social forum.

[Violet_Crumble]

35. ***THEY"LL SAY THERE GOES A WOMAN WHO KNEW HOW TO DRAW ATTENTION TO HER THREADS***

If only I could work out how to get the whole marquee effect happening in a post title *sigh*

[Violet_Crumble]

37. k&r

;)

[JeffR]

39. .

:7

[Hekate]

38. "She must have gotten a life."

;-)

[omega minimo]

41. hear hear

:toast:

[tekisui]

49. Good one.

:thumbsup:

[omega minimo]

40. bitch had balls

....:wow:
:bounce::bounce:

[omega minimo]

71. holy shit not one

:rofl:

[Odin2005]

74. LOL!

Yes you do! :rofl:

[Blue_In_AK]

43. I'm not planning on going anywhere,

but if I were, I imagine many people would take no notice at all because they don't know me. Some people would remember my photographs or my crazy Palin stories, but a few people would feel really sad that I was gone. I don't think I've been obnoxious enough for anyone to do any grave-dancing, but you never know.

We all have our niches. :)

[mdmc]

59. niche on!

I'll always remember ya for your cool pics and stories..

[LooseWilly]

44. I am happy good was seen very eloquent by all what are thinking people.

When I gone am I they all be think, if they member me, is good think man/woman. Member me an few months they be do, but me not always do be repeating over over things the same...so no important me present be. Easy forget no important present being be are thems. :)

[SalmonChantedEvening]

45. "That SOB. He took the good silverware!"

:silly:

[EFerrari]

62. "Hugo Chavez finally fired her."

lol

:hi:

[malaise]

84. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

Perfect :rofl:

[taterguy]

46. I hope they say that they wish I had posted more sledding pics

[Hubert Flottz]

47. I don't think anyone would notice if I wasn't here.

Anyone who would would probably be glad I was gone.

But I'd be sad!

[salin]

56. I would notice, and I wouldn't be glad.

[mdmc]

55. It would be nice to be fondly remembered

but I don't think many du'ers will notice when poor ol' mdmc bites the dust..

[salin]

58. It would be nice to be remembered...

but I post so infrequently, that most current posters have no idea who I am and thus wouldn't remember me.

[Hubert Flottz]

64. I remember you and I'd wondered why I hadn't seen you on DU...

:hi:

[salin]

69. back atcha!

:hi: and thanks!

I still read daily. Just only have a few minutes here or there (working too darn much! but am working so I shouldn't grouse) - so mostly read.

[discocrisco01]

60. I Will Never Leave

Personally, I want a place to where I can vent my opinion where I am not going to ambushed by wingnuts. When I post on Topix (which is my main forum), I get ambushed by winguts and climate changer deniers all of the time.

This is a place where is some sanity in the room. Therefore, I will never leave the forum.

[pipi_k]

68. Are you trying to threaten us?

only kidding!!!

:7

[EFerrari]

75. LOL

[Texasgal]

61. nobody will give a shit

:shrug:

[Beacho]

66. Nobody really knows who the hell I am

So if I did leave I don't think anyone would notice

[akbacchus_BC]

72. Same here for me, but I'll remember you as I replied to you, LOL

Hugs

[azmouse]

70. They'll think a cat drug me off.

[Odin2005]

73. I'm not leaving!

:)

[GreenPartyVoter]

81. Ditto!

[treestar]

79. I've left and returned a couple of times

Without saying anything and I don't think it was noticed.

[Terra Alta]

82. I doubt I will leave

at least not any time soon. This place is keeping me sane! I live halfway between the middle of nowhere and Rednecksville and am surrounded by idiots. It's nice coming somewhere where there are some like-minded people!

[Johnny ramone]

83. People will go nuts and...

Dance on my grave singing:

I don't wanna be a bean head no more
I just met a nurse that I could go for

Gabba Gabba Hey,Gabba Gabba Hey...:headbang:

[ProfessorGAC]

85. Hard To Believe It Matters, One Way Or the Other

If i'm here, nobody cares. If i'm gone, nobody will care.

And, i'm not sure i should be defining myself over the impression left on people who i barely know.
GAC

[Peacetrain]

86. I'm leaving?? You know something I don't know??

:)

[trumad]

87. LOL

Well I do know that a whole bunch of people will edit their ignore button.

[lunatica]

88. No one will notice