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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 08:58 PM
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Snowstorm causes dozens of airplane crashes....
never hear that on the news. But every storm we hear about "dozens" of automobile crashes across the state "caused" by bad weather. And today on Msnbc the news-crawl announced the record cold "killed" six people...

When a plane crashes NTSB investigates and even if there are no survivors blame is nearly always completely or partially pinned on the pilot. Because an airplane crash is always a serious and usually an avoidable thing.

Used to be a car crash was treated the same way-if cars collided a ticket or tickets were given to one or more drivers EVEN IN THE SNOW. Crashes where considered avoidable and responsibility was assigned. Now the police let the insurance companies fight it out.

And now "the cold" killed six people. No investigation to find out why it happened and no tickets for the greedy of society who yanked the safety net from below the needy.

Because in our "Christian" nation, they'd rather let their God sort it out...
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 09:00 PM
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1. "their God" sent the cold nt
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 09:00 PM
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2. Well, for one thing, snow almost never affects planes in ways that make them crash.
Edited on Thu Jan-07-10 09:00 PM by MercutioATC
Not so with cars.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 09:13 PM
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4. I take it you've never heard of "icing"?
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 09:15 PM
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6. I think he might have
seeing as how he's an air traffic controller.

It's true that icing can affect airplanes in very bad ways. However, a much smaller percentage of plane crashes are caused by ice or snow than car crashes.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 03:04 AM
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15. Icing almost never results in plane crashes.
Pilots experience icing every single day. Only in extremely rare circumstances does icing cause a plane to crash.

(and yes, I'm an air traffic controller)
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 09:14 PM
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5. Not to mention that pilots rarely if ever slow down dramatically...
when visibility falls and even if they did, it's unlikely that 15 more planes will run into the back end of the first one in mid-air.

I've got enough miles under my belt on this nations highways to make the following statement with 100% confidence;

The cause of every single major "weather related" pile-up on the roadways is always one, single, dipshit, panicked driver that makes a fatal error because they don't know any better and the next vehicle behind him/her has no where to go but into him/her.

Sometimes that panicked driver is behind the wheel of a tractor trailer.

The overwhelming majority of them however, are behind the wheel of an automobile.
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 09:03 PM
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3. I would advise you to not drink and post!
because your rambling has to be due to booze!
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 09:16 PM
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7. How on earth did God get into this discussion? Weird.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 09:17 PM
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8. God is everywhere; didn't you know that?
;)
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 09:18 PM
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9. the cops around here generally ALWAYS write tickets when there's an accident.
i had a dumb bimbo turn left in front of me a few weeks ago, and she ended up with a ticket once a cop arrived on the scene.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 09:27 PM
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10. As a retired airline pilot and ALPA airline accident investigator, I am speechless. WTF?
"When a plane crashes NTSB investigates and even if there are no survivors blame is nearly always completely or partially pinned on the pilot. Because an airplane crash is always a serious and usually an avoidable thing."

Why don't you read the history of USAir 427, as a case study. The deep stuff. The NTSB (not the general press) stuff, and especially the stuff by my good friend Captain John Cox. That's just one example. I'm too frigging mad to come up with others, but I will!

Jeebus!
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 09:50 PM
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11. The jammed rudder servo accident
and the longest investigation in the history of the NTSB. The pilots did nothing wrong at all, and could not have known that the servo was jammed, or compensated for it. It's NOT always pilot error.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 10:07 PM
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12. unrec for wasted time
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 10:36 PM
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13. Too many reckless drivers. All those ME FIRST people on the road.
They're like babies who have tantrums if you don't let them drive however they want.
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ChicagoSuz219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 11:40 PM
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14. They close the airports...
...and not the expressways.
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