Serious question: was the patrol base in Baquba that got suicide bombed Monday revealed by Bush?

[Bucky]

Nine US troops were killed and twenty injured in this suicide bombing.

I don't know squat about military operations, but it seems like something northeast of Baghdad called a "patrol base" might be a smaller military outpost than a main military base. And I think it was these types of stations that President Bush was criticized for "revealing" when he gave a speech last week standing in front of a map that revealed troop locations in the Baghdad area.

(Now in Bush's defense, he's just a moronic figurehead with no operation knowledge of how to wipe his own ass, much less about the protocols for protecting operational security in Iraq. But somebody in the Bush administration decided revealing troop deployment locations in Baghdad was no big deal. Plus I don't know if such locations are useful to the enemy for tactical reasons, as this bombing represents, or for rather strategic reasons, showing the leaders of the insurgency where our forces are stronger or weakest.)

Am I adding 2+2 correctly here? Did Bush show insurgent/terrorist a spot on the map where they could attack us last week, or is this patrol base not one of the bases that Bush revealed the location of last week?

April 24, 2007, 5:56AM
Nine GIs killed as bomber hits Iraqi base
Second attack on an American post shows insurgents growing bolder
By HAMID AHMED
Associated Press

BAGHDAD — In one of the deadliest attacks on American ground forces since the Iraq war started more than four years ago, a suicide car bomber struck a patrol base northeast of Baghdad and killed nine U.S. soldiers and wounded 20, officials said.

An Iraqi civilian also was wounded in the attack on Task Force Lightning soldiers in Diyala province, a volatile area that has been the site of fierce fighting involving U.S. and Iraqi troops, Sunni insurgents and Shiite militias.

Of the 20 wounded in the attack on the patrol base, 15 soldiers were treated and returned to duty while five others and the Iraqi were evacuated to a medical facility for further care, the military said.

It was the single deadliest attack on ground forces since Dec. 1, 2005, when a roadside bomb killed 10 Marines and wounded 11 on a foot patrol near Fallujah.

[global1]

1. Remember This Story About Geraldo........

The U.S. military said Monday that Fox News Channel Correspondent Geraldo Rivera was being expelled from Iraq for divulging details of a future military operation......

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/31/sprj.irq.rivera/index.html

Any video of what * did last week?

Maybe we could get * sent packing if he did reveal locations.

[Turbineguy]

11. Bush getting in trouble for killing Americans?

What an idea!

[truedelphi]

16. I believe that Olbermann showed the video of *

holding up and displaying the map with the locations.

Probably had to be KO. Can't think of any other MSM TV show that would offer such a hard hitting critique.

And it is significant -because anything that gets on CNN can be watched from your home in Baghdad.

Rove may be a genius as someone who can steal elections - but he doesn't seem to have the foggiest idea of what advice is needed for the President to avoid such a deadly faux pas.

[Make7]

2. I don't know, but....

... perhaps the Iraqis are capable of figuring out where the US troops are in their own country without outside assistance.

Just sayin' ...

- Make7

[Bucky]

3. Right. That's why I'm saying the info Bush revealed would be more strategic than tactical

They can figure out where individual patrol bases are, but Bush's map gave them an overview of where all our major assets are. Still, you gotta wonder.

[Make7]

6. I don't think the information in Bush's speech was related to that bombing.

President Bush Visits East Grand Rapids, Discusses Global War on Terror
April 20, 2007

    -snip-

In the coming months, I'll deliver regular updates on our operations. Today, I want to share some details about how this effort is unfolding in three areas: Baghdad, Anbar province, and the outskirts of Baghdad where terrorists and extremists are making a stand.

The most significant element of our new strategy is being carried out in Baghdad. Baghdad has been the site of most of the sectarian violence; it is the destination for most of our reinforcements. So far, three additional American brigades totaling about 12,000 troops have reached the Baghdad area; another brigade is in Kuwait preparing to deploy; and one more will arrive in Kuwait next month. The Iraqi government is also meeting its pledge to boost its force levels in the city. For every American combat soldier deployed to Baghdad, there are now about three Iraqi security forces -- giving us a combined total of nearly 80,000 combat forces in the Baghdad area.

My point is, is that the American combat forces are not alone in the effort to secure the nation's capital. And just as important as the growing number of troops is their changing position in the city. I direct your attention to a map showing our troop presence around Baghdad late last year. This is how we were positioned. Most troops were at bases on the outskirts of the city. They would move into Baghdad to clear out neighborhoods during the day, and then they would return to their bases at night. The problem was that when our troops moved back to the bases, the extremists, the radicals, the killers moved back to the neighborhoods.

And we're changing. Part of our strategy change, part of the new mission in Baghdad is for American troops to live and work side by side with Iraqi forces at small neighborhood posts called joint security stations. You can see from this map, there are now more than two dozen joint security stations located throughout Baghdad; more are planned. From these stations, Iraqi and American forces work together to clear out and then secure neighborhoods -- all aimed at providing security for the people of Baghdad. If a heavy fight breaks out, our forces will step in, and Iraqi forces learn valuable skills from American troops; they'll fight shoulder to shoulder with the finest military every assembled.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/04/20070420-6.html

He seems to only be talking about Baghdad regarding the maps used - the bombing reported in your OP was not in Baghdad. There is a link to a video stream of that event on the website, but it doesn't actually show any of the maps. Perhaps news organizations covering the event showed those images, but I don't know which one(s) might have done so.

Regarding the information revealed by Bush, I would be surprised if the Iraqis were not already collecting, sharing, and compiling the same exact information. They are fighting using IEDs, RPGs, small arms, etc. against what is probably the most technologically advanced military in the world - the timely collection of useful intelligence on US troop installations and movements is vital for their survival.

- Make7

[Demeter]

4. Nothing Would Surprise Me Anymore

There is nothing these crooks will not say or do, no line they will not cross, no subtlty they will recognize, no law they will obey.

[TNOE]

5. An Iraqi Vet guy said this on KO

that he was SHOCKED that the video Bush showed - showed troop deployments. He was on one night last week. Can't remember his name, but KO has him on alot.

[ellacott]

13. That was Paul Reikoff(sp)

Thanks. I was trying to remember where I heard this.

Paul said he was shocked when he saw that and he thinks it went over eveyrone's head. He said he seems to have been to picked up on this.

[yardwork]

7. I don't know, but they are capable of any stupidity

This is the most incompetent administration we've ever had, I believe.

[bemildred]

8. Doubt it. This is not the first of these attacks on "Patrol Bases".

Just unusually successful. The nature of the attack suggests to me an inside job, like the suicide bombing of the Green Zone. That is what I would worry about. The whole joint deployment thing sort of reminds of "strategic hamlets" from long ago.

[librechik]

9. That was my first thought when I heard about the attack

that fucking bastard. Just for his little "Give me Victory! I mean "money for the troops" photo op.

Altho, to be fair, the insurgents probably knew about all those bases before Bush spoke. It;'s their coiuntry!

[librechik]

10. They should keep the crashcart nearby--this could be a tough day 4 Dick!

[paparush]

12. Bush is HOLDING OUR TROOPS HOSTAGE!!

Shout this from the rooftops.

Email it to the media.

Slap it on granny's forehead.

[Zywiec]

14. I'm sure the Iraqis know exactly where all our troops are.

I doubt it was a clandestine site.

[Oilwellian]

15. Video here

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/

Link is called "New Details in Tillman Investigation" about 5:10 into the video.

[truedelphi]

17. Thanks for posting the link n/t