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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 04:43 PM
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Poll question: M$M: Lies *only* for Profit - or - also used to seed the Public Mind per the aims of elites?
Just curious to see how user names side up
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el_bryanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 04:51 PM
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1. I don't happen to believe either of these simplistic suggestions.
Bryant
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 05:07 PM
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2. Background - Chomsky's Propaganda Model:
The mass media serve as a system for communicating messages and symbols to the general populace. It is their function to amuse, entertain, and inform, and to inculcate individuals with the values, beliefs, and codes of behavior that will integrate them into the institutional structures of the larger society. In a world of concentrated wealth and major conflicts of class interest, to fulfill this role requires systematic propaganda.

In countries where the levers of power are in the hands of a state bureaucracy, the monopolistic control over the media, often supplemented by official censorship, makes it clear that the media serve the ends of a dominant elite. It is much more difficult to see a propaganda system at work where the media are private and formal censorship is absent. This is especially true where the media actively compete, periodically attack and expose corporate and governmental malfeasance, and aggressively portray themselves as spokesmen for free speech and the general community interest. What is not evident (and remains undiscussed in the media) is the limited nature of such critiques, as well as the huge inequality in command of resources, and its effect both on access to a private media system and on its behavior and performance.

A propaganda model focuses on this inequality of wealth and power and its multilevel effects on mass-media interests and choices. It traces the routes by which money and power are able to filter out the news fit to print, marginalize dissent, and allow the government and dominant private interests to get their messages across to the public. The essential ingredients of our propaganda model, or set of news "filters," fall under the following headings: (I) the size, concentrated ownership, owner wealth, and profit orientation of the dominant mass-media firms; (~) advertising as the primary income source of the mass media; (3) the reliance of the media on information provided by government, business, and "experts" funded and approved by these primary sources and agents of power; (4) "flak" as a means of disciplining the media; and (5) "anticommunism" as a national religion and control mechanism. These elements interact with and reinforce one another. The raw material of news must pass through successive filters, leaving only the cleansed residue fit to print. They fix the premises of discourse and interpretation, and the definition of what is newsworthy in the first place, and they explain the basis and operations of what amount to propaganda campaigns.

The elite domination of the media and marginalization of dissidents that results from the operation of these filters occurs so naturally that media news people, frequently operating with complete integrity and goodwill, are able to convince themselves that they choose and interpret the news "objectively" and on the basis of professional news values. Within the limits of the filter constraints they often are objective; the constraints are so powerful, and are built into the system in such a fundamental way, that alternative bases of news choices are hardly imaginable. In assessing the newsworthiness of the U.S. government's urgent claims of a shipment of MIGs to Nicaragua on November 5, I984, the media do not stop to ponder the bias that is inherent in the priority assigned to government-supplied raw material, or the possibility that the government might be manipulating the news, imposing its own agenda, and deliberately diverting attention from other material. It requires a macro, alongside a micro- (story-by-story), view of media operations, to see the pattern of manipulation and systematic bias.


http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Herman%20/Manufac_Consent_Prop_Model.html
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el_bryanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 05:22 PM
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4. Ah Chomsky. That explains it. n/t
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 05:50 PM
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7. No, actually it's not what made me curious to see how other DUers perceive it
Earlier I had a minor debate w/another poster as to the nature of how the mainstream media operates. His position was that there isn't any unified, overarching agenda to deceive, or sell war$, or generally condition the public mind, and that the Corps who own and manage those media outlets are soly driven for profit alone, sans any want of intentionally lying to the public.
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el_bryanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 06:13 PM
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8. I think that in an organization as large and diverse as the media
It's foolish to believe there is one explanation for why they behave the way they do. Certainly I don't believe any active conspiracy.

On the other hand saying that the media figures largely have the same interests as other corporate types, well, that's pretty believable isn't it?

Bryant
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 05:19 PM
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3. why don't you have a choice of BOTH.
They make money by being the lackeys of the people who run the country. Both the elected and corporate. Look how many republican senators do a swinging door between senate, corporation board, and lobbying firms.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 05:43 PM
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6. Option 2 is worded to include both
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 05:26 PM
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5. I Believe it's a bit of Both
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 06:29 PM
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9. If anyone else had posted this it may have attracted many more views and poll votes
... or so I'm guessing

Hmm...perhaps if I'm that unpopular here it's time to take my leave of DU. I've been re-considering the whole internet forum thing for awhile now anyway. To the few lefty stragglers who were at times receptive to my views and ideas, I bid you adieu
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 06:37 PM
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10. heh
You'll be back. You're addicted. Almost 12,000 posts in 2 years? You be hooked.

This poll is kinda preaching to the choir and was hard to discern. Do better next time. <grin>

Reading this gave me an idea: Wouldn't a press that was basically anarchist, be the best for the people?
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