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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 01:25 PM
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Poll question: GHW Bush: Did he retire peacefully in 1993 or continue his global machinations
Edited on Mon Apr-23-07 01:27 PM by blm
and interference in the interests of other nations throughout the 90s in private ways until another Bush administration could rise to institutionalize and officially enable their global reach once again?
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 01:27 PM
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1. Read Greg Palast
Poppy hasn't let any grass grow under his feet. He and Chimpy have been selling us off to the highest bidder. :grr:
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 01:30 PM
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4. That's what the sons and grandsons of Nazi collaborators do.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 01:30 PM
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2. "The Grandchild Business" he said back in 1993
Yep...it takes on new tones once you think about how his family strives for legacy.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 06:19 PM
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26. They strive for legacy by assuring the books stay closed on their real dealings.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 01:30 PM
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3. Cloaked under "daily briefings" from the CIA...no doubt he continued.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 05:03 PM
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14. I'm sure it's only SOME at the CIA - the some who stay more loyal to BFEE than to America.
Edited on Mon Apr-23-07 05:03 PM by blm
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 01:32 PM
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5. Yep, that's why Poppy and Barb were so concerned about the 1994 elections
They wanted their boy Jebbie to be the next torch-bearer of the New World Order.

And old Lawton Chiles screwed the plan up when he proved too tough to beat. Hence Jebbie didn't have 6 years of governing "experience" before the 2000 elections, but rather 2.

So they went with plan B, Georgie. Not a well-thought out Plan B, I must say.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 01:43 PM
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6. Pretty much the way I saw it, too. But WHY......
Why was the Bush brand name allowed to grow STRONGER throughout that time, when the entire crew and their cronies should have been in jail LONG BEFORE November 1994?
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 02:20 PM
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8. Political parties are made of internal networks and >
> the story I've heard is that after '92 the only network in the Republican party with any substantial functionality was the "Bush network." Everything else was in tatters so you had a lot of gopers ready and willing to sign on and increase its influence.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 04:12 PM
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9. I doubt many rank and file knew about their covert operations enough to support
those actions.

But it would be hard to believe that anyone in power and involved with our foreign policy at the time and the CIA were completely kept in the dark with what was going on.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 04:33 PM
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11. What happens when unresolved scandals take a back seat to a domestic agenda?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 12:25 PM
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24. Should good Democrats work to make sure the next coverup DOESN'T happen?
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 01:46 PM
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7. don't forget his mining interests
Edited on Mon Apr-23-07 01:46 PM by buddhamama
gold and precious stones. :)
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 04:37 PM
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13. War is Golden for the Bush Administration
http://www.counterpunch.org/floyd02152003.html


The opening of a long-delayed civil suit in a London courtroom; a brief, buried article on a judical nomination; a fluctuation in the commodities market; three mundane, seemingly-unrelated items in the news last week that combined to give a fleeting glimpse of the ugly reality behind the frantic, diversionary facade of the "civilized world".

The Italian bank BNL was one of BCCI's main tentacles. BNL's Atlanta branch was the primary funnel used by the first Bush Administration to send millions of secret dollars to Saddam for arms purchases, including deadly chemicals and other WMD material supplied by the Chilean arms dealer Cardeon and various politically-connected operators in the US like weapons merchant Matrix Churchill.

As soon as the BNL case broke, President Bush 1 moved to throttle the investigation. He appointed lawyers from both Cardeon and Matrix to top Justice Department posts--where they supervised the officals investigating their old companies.

Which brings us to the judical appointment. One of the White House aids who unlawfully intervened in the BNL prosection was a certain factotum named Jay ByBee.Last week, said factotum was nominated by the current warmer of the Oval Office seat, George W. Bush, to a place on the federal appeals court-- a lifetime sinecure of perks and power. ByBee was confirmed on March 13,2003.

And the commodities connection? President Pretzel's relentless hissy-fit for war on Iraq has of course goosed the price of gold enormously-- and that's set Bush Family coffers a clinking. How so? In the waning days of his failed presidentcy, Bush 1 invoked an obscure 1872 statue to give Canadian firm, Barrick Corporation, the right to mine $10 billion in gold from US public lands. US taxpayers got $10,000 fee in return. Bush then joined Barrick as a highly paid "international consultant," brokering deals with various dictators of his close acquaintance. Barrick reciprocated with big bucks for Junior's presidental run. And in another quid for the pro quo, last year Junior dutifully approved Barrick's controversial aquisition of a major rival.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 05:38 PM
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15. They cover themselves at every angle they can pull off legally and illegally.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 04:19 PM
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10. He went to work "full time" for the Carlyle Group and dropped the "public servant" charade
I wish that Dick and shrub would soon join them. There's nothing wrong with making a buck, but there is something wrong with doing it while under the mask of being a public official and using said placement to get business.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 05:56 PM
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16. Perpetual war means perpetual profit. Why is he considered a good guy nowadays, anyway?
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 04:35 PM
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12. And he hit a lady in the head with a golf ball. - n/t
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 07:34 PM
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17. Poppy does what Rev Moon says.
Ask Silverado Neil, they're jess dick-taters makin' a buck.



by Robert Parry: The Bush-Kim-Moon Triangle of Money

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 11:24 AM
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21. Dictator mentality - treasonous to the core - the whole family AND their cronies.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 07:35 PM
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18. Carlysle Group
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 07:40 PM
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19. GHWB is the Capo di Capi Tutti. Always has been. Head of the CIA, anyone??
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 08:37 AM
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20. I'd say he developed a loyal clique within the CIA - not the entire organization.
Those who started opening their eyes to the game plan in recent years, found themselves purged in recent years.

There were CIA loyal to American citizens and CIA loyal to the BFEE - who was purged?
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 11:28 AM
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22. He probably still is running the country.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 11:53 AM
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23. Was he doing it in the 90s, too? Those machinations didn't just stop and start
with executive privilege, did it? They had to have always stayed in place while all eyes were OFF the players because the country 'moved on' with the obscuring image of a brand new Democratic administration.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 04:07 PM
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25. Anyone want to GUESS the 3 DUers who believe Poppy Bush retired peacefully in 1993?
No - don't guess - we don't have to. Some folks will say ANYTHING just to protect their past assertions.
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