IT may be sick, but here's what I hope happens with the Crotch Bomber

[WeDidIt]

I hope the guy qualifies for the Darwin Award due to his self inflicted injuries.

[Skittles]

1. I think you have to die to get the Darwin Award

no?

[WeDidIt]

4. No, you do not have to die

The only qualification is that you remove yourself from the gene pool due to your own stupid actions.

:evilgrin:

[blondeatlast]

5. In his case, amybe not. He did seem to stop his own DNA from

being passed on, you know?

[Jamastiene]

2. That should be a given.

All points considered.

[Warpy]

3. Depending on the internal temperature of his roasted balls

he might or might not be able to reproduce.

One needs to remove his DNA from the gene pool in order to qualify.

[WeDidIt]

6. Yep, that was where I was going.

:evilgrin:

[HeresyLives]

7. He had minor burns to his lower legs,

and is already out of hospital. He is a lone mentally ill man...why wish him harm?

[WeDidIt]

8. Because the fuck wanted to bring down an airplaine full of innocent people

At least I hope the fuck is incapable of ever reproducing because of his own stupidity.

[HeresyLives]

9. Mentally ill people do strange things.

Let's not get carried away.

[WeDidIt]

11. I see absolutely NO evidence this guy is mentally ill under the law

In fact, I'd say the fuck is completely sane under the law.

[HeresyLives]

13. Oh, you mean normal people try to

blow up planes, and succeed only in scorching their own legs?

[WeDidIt]

15. do you even understand the requirements for the insanity plea?

No way does this guy meet that bar.

Under the law, he knew what the fuck he was doing and knew the consequences.

He;s a fucking terrorist and deserves his fate.

[HeresyLives]

17. Do you understand insanity?

Because you're skirting it right now.

[WeDidIt]

24. The medical definition of "insanity" has no bearing on the legal definition

No way is this guy legally insane.

Hopefully, he'll get the same sentence as McVeigh.

[HeresyLives]

No, why should science matter eh?

[WeDidIt]

39. Because this is a legal matter and only the law applies

and there is no way in hell this guy is insane under the rule of law.

[HeresyLives]

42. Yup, screw science, go for vengence.

Isn't that how you always get into trouble?

[WeDidIt]

48. The law is all that applies in legal proceedings.

Don;t like it? Change the law.

[Chulanowa]

67. We must burn the witch, whether she floats or not!

[H2O Man]

65. Well, that's because

there is no medical definition of "insanity." There is a medical definition for what constitutes "mental illness." And the law absolutely relies upon the medical field in helping to determine if a person's mental state is such that they meet the legal definition of "not guilty, by reason of insanity." This is why court cases frequently have psychiatrists and psychologists testifying as expert witnesses.

I am not attempting to comment on the individual who is being discussed in this thread. Like everyone else here, I am not in a position where I could make any meaningful comment on his mental status.

[Arctic Dave]

18. I wish the same for all the military personell who killed innocent people in Iraq.

Wow, you're right, this is fun.

Because, you know there is no difference.

[WeDidIt]

33. Wow, way to suport the troops there, sport.

:eyes:

[Arctic Dave]

74. Support the troops? Why?

[blondeatlast]

10. He wanted to possibly kill 280 people, maybe? Geez. nt

[WeDidIt]

14. Trying to claim radical terrorists are mentally insane under the law

is the sickest thing I've ever heard.

Claiming insanity under the law is a fucking high bar, and no terrorist would EVER meet the requirements.

[HeresyLives]

16. He's not a 'radical terrorist'.

He's one lone mentally ill person. Like Timothy McVeigh...only you don't like this one's religion.

[WeDidIt]

19. He's not mentally ill

He's a fucking murderous bastard.

I have no sympathy for the fuck. He deserves what McVeigh got and McVeigh wasn't mentally insane.

[HeresyLives]

23. He's not sane.

So do stop reveling in revenge fantasies, and try to keep some human decency about you.

[WeDidIt]

25. Betcha a thousand dollar donation to DU that under the law, he's sane. n/t

[HeresyLives]

30. Well I'm sure Gitmo rules will apply.

However, he's not sane.

[WeDidIt]

36. Nope, normal rules of federal legal proceedings will apply

and no, he will not be ruled insane under the law.

So, willing to take my bet? I'll even concede the bet no longer applies should the Obama administration try to skirt normal federal criminal proceedings.

[HeresyLives]

37. Yes, like they did at Gitmo.

[WeDidIt]

41. In other words, you know this guy is legally sane. n/t

[HeresyLives]

44. No, I'm aware of your 'legal' system.

[WeDidIt]

46. Don't like it? You're free to leave

That's the beauty of a free society.

[HeresyLives]

50. I'm not there, buddy.

[WeDidIt]

53. Then cool. If you don't like the legal definition of insanity

you're free to try to change it, too.

Free society and all.

[alfredo]

75. If found insane he will spend the rest of his life in the hospital

wing of some federal prison. Insanity will not buy his freedom.

[blondeatlast]

21. what did the OP say about his religion? You are really stretching. nt

[HeresyLives]

29. Everyone here is aware of his religion.

Please don't play dumb.

[blondeatlast]

32. That's not what I said--I said what did the OP say about his religion?

And the answer is: nothing.

Stretching.

[HeresyLives]

35. And I said, don't play dumb.

[WeDidIt]

38. I only see one person playing dumb on this thread n/t

[HeresyLives]

40. Well true, but I was too polite to point that out.

[WeDidIt]

43. Go ahead

because only one person refuses to admit there is a legal definition for sanity and under that legal definition, this guy is sane.

[HeresyLives]

47. Oh well then, get out your stake or cross.

Or however else you do it these days.

[WeDidIt]

51. Hopefully, it'll be a needle in the arm

That's how it's done these days. Three solutions. Completely painless.

that's how McVeigh went.

A little too easy, if you ask me.

[HipChick]

22. yep..just like the other idiots who go postal weekly shooting up folks in

the US..they have beef, and want to take others out with them

[Pavulon]

58. Are you comparing a spree shooter to a jihad religious nut?

its like there is a door prize for most unrealistic viewpoint on this event.

[CLANG]

49. "Radical Terrorist" is a little redundant, no?

T. McVeigh was a terrorist, and has been labeled as such by the U.S. government.

[Pavulon]

63. Hopefully this fucknut joins him soon. (nt)

[pitohui]

76. no one is trying to claim the dude is legally insane, but he is clearly medically insane

the bar for legal insanity is not emotional illness but rather the ability to understand what you were doing

if he thought he was peeling a banana but instead set off an explosive (psychosis) he would be legally insane

no one thinks he is legally insane but there are many medical forms of insanity that are not recognized under the law (clinical depression or any of a number of character/personality orders that cause a person to try murder/suicide may be found in that number)

it's clear that he has one of these mental/character illnesses to the point that when he disappeared his own father reported him as a possible danger to self and others, warning that he might find himself vulnerable to being brainwashed and used as a terrorist

this person will pay the ultimate price for having a weak mind, he could have lived the life of a millionaire of privileged background, with the whole world as his playground, instead he will spend life in prison

i don't think we need to wish anything more on him

it is too bad the authorities did not listen to a father's worries but what's done is done

be glad you have a healthy mind not susceptible to religious brainwashing, i am certainly thanking what gods there be that i've been spared that sickness, sometimes it destroys what could have been a wonderful and joyous life...and for what, all for nothing, the BEST case was that he was stopped before he hurt someone, the WORST case would be that he became a murderer remembered forever for killing

i've flown that route many times since it is a major hub to hub across the atlantic, and i can only say, i am so glad that no one was needlessly killed because of the security failures that took place that allowed him to board this flight

[Bobbieo]

20. He may not be mentally ill but I bet the dude is a sad,.lonesome bastard right now.

Everybody hates him!!!

[HeresyLives]

26. Normal people don't 'hate him'.

They feel sorry for him, the same way they do for other people that snap and go off the deep end.

[WeDidIt]

31. He;'s a MURDEROUS BASTARD!!!

He tried to kill 280 people, for Christ's sake.

How anybody can have any compassion for the bastard is beyond me.

[HeresyLives]

34. So, let's chuck out due process, right?

I mean you chucked out your Constitution, and substituted the Patriot Act...why not go all the way?

[blondeatlast]

45. The Darwin Awards have nothing to do with due process and everything to do with natural selection.

And he has to be the top candidate for this year's award.

[WeDidIt]

56. Only if he fried his reproductive organs to the point where he can no longer reporoduce

That, or if he gets the death penalty.

So he has two options to be eligible for the Darwin Award.

[pitohui]

79. i think people have pity for the waste

he had the world at his feet, a million dollar condo in west london, a rich family, his youth, and everything in front of him -- opportunities most of us can only dream of

he threw it away because of some old scribble in an old book

how can you NOT pity him? he threw away his life and disgraced his family for NOTHING

you can pity someone and not wish them set free, you know, obv. he's too dangerous to allow to walk around, it's just a shame he wasn't confined and helped BEFORE he got on the plane, instead of being helped, perhaps medicated, and out in a few weeks or months, he'll likely be in prison for life

here is the shame -- the father called for helped, for intervention and he was basically given a huge brush off

[Shell Beau]

59. I bet a lot of "normal" people are hating on him right now. Especially

those "normal" people on the plane with him. WTF? And I don't feel sorry for him one bit. I guess I am not "normal".

[marshall]

70. I don't see any reason to believe he is mentally ill

Perhaps he might be, but I haven't heard anything leading to that. Even his father in reporting his radical associations and politics didn't allege he was mentally ill, just misguided.

[Ian David]

12. The good news is, he'll have to go through a worse security checkpoint every day...

... than what we have to at the airport.

I wish they charged you extra money in prison for a checked-bag.

[WeDidIt]

28. They'll be checking every crack and crevice for contraband for as long as he lives. n/t

[gopwacker_455]

27. Me too. Less idiots to pollute the gene pool.

[HeresyLives]

52. The urge to kill is strong in many people, apparently.

And a lot of them are on this 'liberal' 'progressive' site, I see.

[blondeatlast]

54. And one of them was on a plane with 280 other people. Where's your compassion for them? nt

[WeDidIt]

57. I get my arm caught in a trap that causes horrible pain.

For my part, I wait in the trap until whoever set it comes back so I can kill them and take out the threat to the species.

[WeDidIt]

66. He does not need to die to be eligible for the Darwin Award

One must merely be incapable of reproducing.

[catnhatnh]

55. What a sick and insiduous thread.

That adds exactly noting to rational discourse. You sir, are acting like a jerk.

[WeDidIt]

60. I did not burn this guy's balls

Nor did I make him commit a crime where he could be eligible for the death penalty.

[catnhatnh]

61. No...

You merely rejoice in it. Again sir, the reaction of a jerk.

[Pavulon]

62. I appreciate the irony

of a man trying to kill 250+ people cooking his sack with a high explosive that burned rather than detonated. Fuck him and the people who helped him. Guess he fucked up jihad 101, slept through that bitch or something. Rigging a charge with a blasting cap is not all that complex.

[WeDidIt]

64. +6,000,000,000

[catnhatnh]

68. Yep

It should all be about hating.

[Pavulon]

69. Yeah, I just cant get the whole one love thing going for this guy..

maybe if he set himself on fire in front of the embassy to make a point, that would take some balls. Blowing up airplanes with innocent people is so hackneyed, these guys need a new plan (and some more balls). Yeah really, fuck him and the folks who sent him. Hopefully the money and logistics folks will be taking dirt naps courtesy of the us tax payer soon.

[catnhatnh]

72. Of course a better hope

might be to disengage the US from interaction with the middle east and see how that works. You know, as in "mind your own"...as opposed to trying a petroleum hegemony.

[Pavulon]

73. Yep, that stopped with the uss cole and embassy attacks in AFRICA.

there is a long list of attacks against the infidel for being the infidel. Personally I see no problem with the US obsoleting Oil with a combination of technology. It would take 10 years for the entire middle east to look like sub saharan africa. There is nothing useful there except oil export. Personally I could give a shit about the region.

Until then the days of observe and spread eagle and take it are done, the guys behind this, like the guy who counseled the ft hood shooter are dead on their feet.

[AnnieBW]

71. Now we'll have to take off our pants

when we go through the security checkpoints at the airport!

[slackmaster]

77. He should be forced to work for 40 years at Auschwitz

To regain his freedom.

[inthebrain]

78. Or maybe, just maybe!!!!

We could forgive him.

I know, that's not considered a virtue of any FUNCTIONING society now is it.