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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:27 AM
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Olympia Snowe says Dems could win her over on Iraq, "but they haven't tried"
I find that hard to believe, but if it's true, :wtf:, Dems, talk to this woman!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/22/AR2007042201054.html?nav=rss_politics

Moderate GOP Sen. Olympia Snowe represents the staunchly antiwar state of Maine and is deeply unhappy with Bush's leadership on Iraq. She opposes the troop buildup that is underway and supported Democratic-led efforts to state Congress's opposition to it. She has proposed her own terms for changing course in Iraq; they establish benchmarks for political progress as conditions for continued U.S. involvement.

But Snowe has quietly remained within the GOP fold during the funding fight.

The senator, who often breaks with her party on fiscal and social issues, accepts the most contentious provision in the Senate Democrats' bill: a March 31, 2008, target date for ending combat operations. The language she finds troubling is the requirement that troop withdrawals begin within 120 days. "Having an end goal is less problematic to me," Snowe explains. But as long as the U.S. military is on the ground, she said, it should have "the maneuverability to do what's necessary."

Snowe, 60, has never had a chance to explain her concerns to Democrats. Despite her well-known willingness to switch sides on high-profile issues, no one on the majority side has gotten in touch on the spending bill. "It wouldn't take a lot" to win her over, said Snowe, who cruised to a third term in November, despite heavy GOP losses in the region. "But they haven't tried."
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:28 AM
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1. Hell, wire her whatever bribe she wants. We need the votes. nt
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:29 AM
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2. Huh? She either agrees or she does not.
How are they supposed to win her over?
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yorgatron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:35 AM
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3. is she too stupid to figure it out for herself?
because i bet Maine voters aren't that dumb.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 11:02 AM
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27. That's what I was thinking.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:36 AM
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6. Ever hear of politics?
Maybe she wants to chair a committee. Maybe she wants a new bridge somewhere.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:47 AM
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15. Nope, never heard of politics.
I know how it works. Doesn't make it right.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 11:09 AM
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31. Politics be damned. Sometimes you do things just because they
are the right thing to do. Besides, she's in the wrong party to chair a committee right now.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 11:13 AM
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36. She wouldn't be in the wrong party anymore if she switched.
She's hinting. What's wrong with encouraging someone to cross the aisle?
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 11:30 AM
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43. If she is thinking of switching PARTIES that's another matter.
That would be a tremendous asset to us because Lieberman would be rendered irrelevant. (Yes, I have heard that his switching would not change control, but I am not countin on that.)
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 11:53 AM
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46. Which committee is Lieberman chairing?
We'll let her have that one.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 12:04 PM
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47. Works for me.
Better for anything to be chaired by one coming in rather than one going out.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:38 AM
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8. She's playing some sort of game with her funding vote.
She wants something. It's worth finding out what it is for the possibility of getting her to leave the Republican fold on this vote.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 11:20 AM
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40. I'd like her to explain how Bush "won her over" in the first place...
I'd find that enlightening.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:35 AM
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4. Sounds like Harry Reid needs to take her to lunch.
We need everyone on our side that we can get.

And if this isn't an invitation, I don't know what is.

I'm going to send Reid a message, and call his office to make sure they know about this. He needs to do something.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:35 AM
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5. When the hell are you going to come over to the Good Side???
Jeez, Senator, you KNOW you wanna.......
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:37 AM
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7. As a Republican, perhaps she's grown too used to expensive K-Street "wooing"
I'll wager she has Durbin's phone number, as well as Reid's!
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:39 AM
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9. At least she's honest
which is a rarity in a Republican.

Most don't hang out a sign.

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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:39 AM
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10. Olympia Snowe: "I will send your children to die senselessly until my ass is well and truly kissed
by the Democrats."

Why is everyone so impressed with her bullshit effort to blame her shitty support for the unjust war on Democrats and their failure to stop her from voting like a pig?
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:47 AM
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16. DingDingDing! We have a winner!!!! nm
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:48 AM
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19. You bet. She should have followed her conscience from the first.
She doesn't seem to grasp the simple concept that you do the right thing simply because it's right, not because it's profitable, or flattering if someone begs you to do it.

You'd think she'd feel OBLIGATED to listen to her conscience.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:50 AM
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23. we think alike. Stowe's deliberate ignoring her responsibility
Edited on Mon Apr-23-07 10:53 AM by NYCALIZ
cause she's not being courted.

Which means she's ignoring her duty.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 11:12 AM
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33. that is EXACTLY what I thought. She should take REID to lunch.
either this article got mangled in transcription or she is an arrogant lout just like the rest of the GOP.

This is no longer a political game...people's lives are at stake.

I hope the people of Maine see this...
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:40 AM
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11. Hell I would talk to her for them, if for no other reason than to listen to her talk
I have a very okie drawl and just love listening to people from the northeast, in fact I will sometimes get caught up in listening and not be paying any attention to whats being said, :shrug:
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 11:19 AM
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39. I'm a Southern girl married to a Boston Yankee.
We just sit and listen to each other talk for hours. :loveya:
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:41 AM
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12. She risks alot by not staying with her party, of course she needs
incentive to vote against them.

Hey DC Dems, don't you recognize an invite?
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:43 AM
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13. She's a pro-war Repub in anti-war Democratic Maine. She risks more staying with her party and all
the incentive she needs is the will of her staunchly anti-war constituents who she was elected to represent.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:46 AM
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14. She just won reelection in 2006. She can keep the pressure off for a while longer.
It's Collins who is up in 2008 who should really be feeling the heat from Maine voters.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 11:49 AM
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45. Whether her next election is in 2008, 2010, or 2012, she's not immune from the voters.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:47 AM
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17. Nope. GOPers can always get her elected
by using their voter caging techniques. But getting GOPers mad at her can bring down the attorney general's bag of tricks to be used against her.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 11:48 AM
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44. That's exactly what they said about ex-Sen. Lincoln Chafee...
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:47 AM
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18. Oh I believe it
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:48 AM
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20. OK, talk to the lady
The real enemy of America is the Bush regime and we should except any and all allies in bringing this war to an end and ousting the regime from power.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:49 AM
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21. Stowe abandons duty to constituents cause Dems didn't say
pretty please with double whipped cream and two cherries on top.
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:49 AM
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22. What is she waiting for? Hearts and flowers?
Geez Louise. She has to be courted? Is that the price of her vote? I thought maybe her constituents' views and her own conscience might matter more than a free lunch.

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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:54 AM
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24. Whatever her concerns are, I'm sure Harry Reid will be giving her a call shortly
Too bad the tap on the shoulder had to come through the Washington Post.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 11:13 AM
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35. maybe ready to abandon the dark side and wants great Dem committee position? nt
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:54 AM
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25. So, mass protests across the nation hasn't convinced her yet. OH kay. Oh Republicans.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:56 AM
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26. That is pathetic. Where the fuck has she been the last seven years?
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 11:03 AM
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28. "But they haven't tried." --that is
the sorriest excuse I have heard yet. Why doesn't she "try" talking to them? Does she want Democrats to kow-tow to her? That is a rhetorical question.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 11:04 AM
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29. What the hell does that mean? To 'win her over' would be to do what SHE wants done.
No wonder they haven't talked to her. Why can't SHE be the one to compromise? She the one in the Minority Party. If she's really against the surge she would support the Dems bill....period.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 11:08 AM
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30. Methinks if she represents the "antiwar" section of her state that her
constitutents need to build a large bonfire under her tush and let her know that they will take her out just as surely as they put her in. Any Mainers here to light the match?
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 11:13 AM
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34. She responds to all concerns with poorly thought out form letters.
Edited on Mon Apr-23-07 11:14 AM by mainegreen
They generally go like this:

Dear <person>
Thanks for writing me expressing your concerns on <x>. I appreciate your input, but due to <some rambling nonsense> I feel it is necessary to continue to support <x>.

Olympia Snowe.

It's pointless to contact her on political issues, though on citizen services she is a bit better.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 11:15 AM
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38. Bonfire, I say.
Matches, kerosene, lots of wood....heat.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 11:10 AM
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32. What does she want? A toaster? Nats tickets? The issue isn't important enough as is? nt
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Lobster Martini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 11:15 AM
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37. Other issues on which Democrats have not tried to win her over.
Edited on Mon Apr-23-07 11:17 AM by Lobster Martini
Other issues on which Democrats have not tried to win her over: gravity, heliocentrism, evolution, general relativity...for crying out loud, have some common sense and stop waiting for your prom date to bring you a corsage.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 11:22 AM
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41. That doesn't sound all that likely
Edited on Mon Apr-23-07 11:23 AM by karynnj
This year she's written Small Business legislation and an environmental bill with Kerry, who was one of Democrats on the first bill (Reid, Biden, Feingold, Levin, Reed and Schumer were the others). It is hard to believe that neither of them ever mentioned Iraq.

Also, communication is a two way street - so I would assume that she could find a Senator to speak to.
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Dr. Death Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 11:30 AM
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42. Why does she need to be "won over" to do the right thing?
??????????

She obviously knows it's the right thing to do, but won't do it unless she's asked nicely? What do the Dems have to say? Pretty please with sprinkles on top?
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 08:55 AM
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48. She's twirling her purse. -nt
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